A statement about female supriority

[geronimo]

No Thendeys, I dont think we do. Cause in a femdom environment like this we can all embrace the fantasy that Women are superior to men and should be spelled with a capital W. Needless to say, me being here as a submissive male, I like that fantasy along with a lot of the rest of you I imagine, so a place like this might not be the place for a true discussion of the subject. It would ruin everybodies fun and bring down our libido. So Jenna, Teneale, Kinky Domina and all other Women who might be reading this: I humbly bow down and recognize your gender's superiority. And your two X's or whatever it was.

[dark]

No we don't need to debate, but when I stumbled across that link I thought it was so weird and also funny, that I should post it here.

I already wrote I don't need a debate about because I already tried to talk about with people who believe in a general superiority and I found out it's a waste of time to discuss. Unfortunately...

[alpahde5]

i can run real fast, therefor males are superior...

ok seriously, i'm just gona say the first thought that popped into my head without reading where the source came from, and it is loaded with prejudice lol.

but it looks like that was written by some woman who may have issues regarding men, and seems similar to when people tried to use science to prove blacks were inferior, really it makes no difference if you have XX or XY, yes males are technically a mutation of females but to lump and entire sex into one category and say all men are less smarter than woman is a load of bull and dangerous bull because some people will believe it if you shove "scientific" evidence in front of their nose. I would personally say that out of all the people i've been in education with there have been more smarter men than woman, but there have been outstandingly brilliant minds amongst a small group of woman.
men learn differently from woman, and one man learns differently from another man, just like woman, were all different and have different abilities; the reason why were so special. I may be great at reading but i wouldn't say that because i am all men must be, it's absurd.

There is no point in debating if one sex is better than the other because each side will always come back with even more powerful ammunition to back their claim. and in the end it all boils down to one simple point, once you can get over fighting over who's better you can start exploring the great things about each other and im not talking about sex, i mean the little things that make life worth while, like the way woman carry little trinkets in the purses and all the little cute things they do, and the beauty of just holding another woman without thinking about the size of her frontal lobe. verbally castrating a man for just being a man is ridiculus and short sighted as is doing the same to woman, each should be taking on their own merit and the road of gender based Darwinism should be avoided.

thanks for reading my supplement to the new yorker

[dark]

Good point Al, it's so easy to find any scientific facts to support a opinion. The best example is the global warming. One scientist says it's the result of our ignorant behavior in the last century and the next says the opposite. Even the science will never tell us the absolute truth.

I think a good rule should be that no person can claim the absolute truth for it's words. It's all relative and we should try to find our individual way to handle our life and find the best way to become lucky and have a satisfying life.

But there are a lot of people who want to force all other people to live their lifestyle or believing in their one and only god(dess) If we could overcome this status it would bring the whole human race to a higher level of moral and consciousness.

[alpahde5]

aye, but luckily there are more people who love freedom than there are "crusaders" in todays world.

ah that just reminded me of a jibjab I saw lol.

[alpahde5]

I just noticed they support Hiliary Clinton, simply because she is a woman... I don't think she would condone their actions.

[dark]

I just noticed they support Hiliary Clinton, simply because she is a woman... I don't think she would condone their actions.

Yes this is the biggest joke at all And it shows that they don't care about any facts or political discussions. The gender is the one and only thing that counts. I found another statement which shows what their goal is:

RASA: I AM GOING TO WRITE AN ARTICLE ON THIS SOON, HOW WOMEN MUST CHANGE THEIR BODY LANGUAGE AND ATTITUDE. LOOK, ON OUR SIDE, FROM THE DAY WE WERE BORN WE WERE TAUGHT TO BE SUBSERVIENT TO MEN. THERE IS NO SCHOOL THAT REVERSES THIS. WE HERE ON THE INTERNET ARE THE FEW PEOPLE BANGING THIS OUT EVERY DAY, AND ONLY A FEW THOUSAND PEOPLE TOTAL, MAYBE, ARE HEARING OUR WORDS. WE NEED TO REACH MILLIONS.

They want to reach millions

By the way there is an male author, his pseudo is William Bond. I already had a discussion with him. The result of this discussion was not very satisfying, for both sides. The dispute was a waste of time.

Here is his blog:

http://womenrulingtheworld.blogspot.com/

One point is very important for myself. I am not posting these things for the reason that we can laugh about them or see these people as idiots.

I think a dialog about is very important. I mean they see the problems on this world and I agree to these problems. But I think they offer the wrong solutions. At least they are seeing the problems on our earth!

[dark]

You forgot the phone calls which last at least one hour

[camipco]

The best example is the global warming. One scientist says it's the result of our ignorant behavior in the last century and the next says the opposite.

I think that's a pretty poor example. Thousands of scientists says it's the result of carbon emissions. A handful of people paid by the oil industry say it's the opposite.

As for sex, we do have a pretty good scientific understanding of the genetic physical differences between men and women. It's not like there's a scientific debate about who is better at lifting heavy objects.

But superiority has no clear definition. It's all about your value system. If your values prioritize physical strength and other male traits, you're going to think men are superior.

In general, the way submissive men fantasize about women being superior is to have the women act in traditional male roles - comanding physical strength and aggression. The tender domme, which we see more of in t&d than in general bdsm, is less like this. But still, don't confuse power-switching in bdsm with any kind of feminism. At a very basic level, we're still objectifying women and treating them as sex objects here.

[alpahde5]

eeek don't open the global warming can of worms here....

[blueones]

I don't think that women are superior to men. But after looking at that link and seeing that woman's boobs, if she were to tell me women are superior I would probably agree with her. LOL

[Susan Strict]

Here's an article about the supremacy of women I wrote some years ago for a magazine. I also included it in one of my published collections of short stories, I forget which, and it has appeared on various web sites over the years.

I wouldn't necessarily go along now with everything I said then, but anyway, take it or leave it. You might find some of it interesting:


The Supremacy of Women
An Argument

It is simply not true to say that “traditionally” women have been subservient to men. History shows us otherwise, and when you look at the attitudes of so many societies for thousands of years, you can see exactly how powerful women were in the thoughts, minds and lives of the men:

Start with the cave paintings that pre-date history. You see men hunting, yet they present their kill to a woman - usually a great woman painted to be much larger and in much more detail than you see in the figures of the men.

Looking into mythology is, perhaps, the most revealing. The ancients gave their goddesses startling powers, and there are thousands of stories about how the leader of the gods (almost invariably a male) was controlled by his particular goddess.
Take, for example, Medusa, and look more deeply into her mythological history. Far from being the gorgon she became in later tales, in her original form as Metis (Libyan mythology, later “imported” into Greece) she was the ultimate controller. The mythology of her power and control is found throughout Europe from around 15th century BC. The name Medusa means “sovereign female wisdom”. Only much later, and for a relatively short time, did Greece become a “patriarchal” society and the image and power of Medusa was deliberately tarnished because it did not fit with the then-popular image of “all-powerful man”.
Later, the Romans continued the “myth” of the power of woman. Only women were allowed to control the temples of the gods. Once again, the goddesses became the most powerful - even Mars, the god of war was overshadowed by his female counterpart, Bellona. Most significant, perhaps, was that the Romans believed control of their own city was by a goddess alone with no male counterpart. Roma, often depicted in soldier’s dress, also carried the scroll of the Roman Senate symbolising her control over the rules and laws of Rome.

Parallels exist in most pre-Christian beliefs. In each case the females are said to command extraordinary control over the gods and over man. In Norse mythology Frigg, wife of Odin, commands immense respect from the other gods and from her husband. It is she, as goddess of the home, who keeps him in check as he tends to stray from reasonable actions. The most frightening characters in Norse mythology are, of course the Valkyries - maidens chosen by the gods to select which warriors should die and which should be taken to Valhalla, land of the gods.

The ancient obsession with the power of women was, in fact, so intense that it probably accounts for the rebellion against it in the early days of the Christian Church, and why the Catholic Church even today is almost wholly controlled by men. The very real power of women on men’s minds and in their day-to-day thinking and actions was a threat to early Christianity, and by creating a male-dominated church the early Christians gave men an escape from that. It was women and their power that was feared and considered to control much of the pre-Christian world, not men.

And in the last two thousand years?

Start with Boadicea. In around 63AD she successfully roused the Britons against invaders when the men had given up any resistance: Boadicea fought the Romans for many years and there is no doubt from the writings of the Roman generals they held her in great awe. Historians still consider her to be one of the greatest British leaders in time of war.

Throughout mediaeval times in Britain and throughout Europe, the power of women was feared so much that any female exhibiting any character traits other than meek subservience was branded as a witch and many were burned. The powerful church at that time deliberately tried to suppress and destroy the earlier beliefs in the power of women.
Yet it did not go away. In Geoffrey Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales written between 1387 and 1400 there are countless examples of the strength and control of women. Many are humorous, but all stress the strength with which women deal with any particular situation and invariably get the better of the men.

The two bloodiest reigns in British history were those of Mary and Elizabeth I - where each had the urge to exert control by disposing of any and all opponents to their own particular beliefs.

Read Shakespeare - and see consistently how the female characters in his plays control the males. It can, of course, be argued that he was simply pandering to his Queen, Elizabeth I, but that in itself demonstrates how he felt the need to do this.

Looking at Victorian England is particularly interesting. With Victoria the longest-reigning and arguably the most powerful monarch the world has ever seen, you might have expected to see wives play a significant part in controlling their husbands. Yet this is not the case - the Victorian era is one in which it appears wives were particularly downtrodden and subservient. However, deeper investigation reveals a very different story: the control was being exerted not so much by the wives of “prominent” men, but in fact by their mistresses and those with whom the men were (frequently) having sexual relationships. In London in the mid-1800s, for example, up to one in five houses was a brothel, and it is estimated that nearly 15% of the gross national economy revolved around this particular “industry”. More relevantly, there are many documents and even minutes from parliamentary discussions that go into detail about concerns over the control these women were exerting on the running of the country and on all its business and industry.

The same sort of history can be seen across many, many cultures - India, China, Russia, Mexico, Brazil, Peru among others.

So, trying to look at it objectively, WHY?
No one disputes that men are naturally stronger. No one disputes that men are naturally the hunters, the breadwinners.
Is it simply that men often want to put women “on a pedestal” to be worshipped? And that all of this is merely in men’s heads?
Or is it, as I believe, that a woman’s mind is more ordered and craves the power of being in control? Certainly, as a psychologist might tell you, there is a natural instinct for a woman to have an ordered and “safe” environment around her - the natural instinct of most female creatures because of the need for a safe haven to give birth and to care for the young. Men, on the other hand, are far more inclined to want and enjoy disorder, danger and adventure.

It is all very interesting. But I do wonder, after having written ALL that, whether we should spend more time just enjoying our particular characteristics rather than trying to analyse them?

Also, there IS a difference between “sexual domination” and “supremacy”. I would venture to suggest that neither man nor woman is, nor ever can be, “supreme”. But I am quite certain that in life, as in sex, women are capable of controlling more effectively than men will ever manage - and do already control more widely than men ever imagine. In sex, most women control only by denial, although I still maintain that sex is the area where most women could gain the greatest pleasure by taking control.

Finally, don’t let “reality” stand in the way of fantasy. Someone talked about the need to discard the totally fantastical (or something like that). No. Don’t do it. Even during actual and physical sex and/or BDSM “play” the fantasy heightens the enjoyment - the impossible possibility that the actions could go way past what is physically practical and possible - THAT, and only that, is what does take the experience way past what is actually happening. It sounds complicated - but think about it and try it. You might be surprised.

“The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world”.

[submissivemaletx]

wow, I think it's been almost a year since I last posted.


There are times when I look at some woman and think they are superior, then their are the weak links in the chain that make me realize that both genders can be quite inferior to the other side. It's a debate that will go back and forth till the end of time. The way I see it, if woman ever banded together, they could run the planet. But I don't see that happening. If they were all hot, i'd try to help them, lol. I kid I kid.

[kinkydomina]

Well said, Ms Teneale! "Behind every good man there is a good woman". These words of female superiority as true as far as the roles assumed in SM play are concerned. We are still human, all of us. There are no 2 separate races. Feels good to be female, thus superior!

[dark]

Well said, Ms Teneale! "Behind every good man there is a good woman". These words of female superiority as true as far as the roles assumed in SM play are concerned. We are still human, all of us. There are no 2 separate races. Feels good to be female, thus superior!

I don't think this is a general statement about female superiority. I asked Teneale about and she meant it more like: men and women can achieve the best result if they work together. I think to say that one gender is superior and should rule the world causes serious conflicts. I don't think it would be reasonable to take away the power from one gender, because we are all living on this planet and need to speak for our rights.

The people who stand for a new world order under the dominance of women are saying that a man with power is abusing this power. I just want to give two short examples to disprove this argument:

Nelson Mandela, when he was voted for the president of South Africa he acted with so much love and understanding although his people suffered so much before. The buddhism is a male dominated religion. This religion praises love and peace, and also to respect our nature. They never fought any wars. So I don't accept arguments of feminists or femdoms who blame a whole gender for all the bad things happened on this planet. It is true the most men are selfish, ignorant and aggressive, but there are also women who are like that and men like Gandhi showed that there is also another way.

I think this century is very important for us. We need to grow mental and expand our awareness of our human beeing. The women can help this world a lot if they speak louder and take more power. In fact I think we need a louder voice of women to make this world better. But I think the only way to get a world full of peace is to work together on an equal base.

I personal accept female supremacy in my sexuality (that means not a general supremacy, I would never take away the right for a woman to be the submissive part), but I will never accept any kind of supremacy on a political base. We need to change our political and economic world orders to create a better world. This is the main challenge in this century. But I doubt that only women can do that.

Dear Susan Strict,

I read your statement with a big interest and I disagree in some points. But for now it's very difficult for me to understand right all the things you wrote, because you used a lot of phrases and words I don't understand perfectly. And I don't want to interpret anything wrong.

But I want to quote one sentence I totally understand.

It is all very interesting. But I do wonder, after having written ALL that, whether we should spend more time just enjoying our particular characteristics rather than trying to analyse them?

That's a great statement!