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[The Carnal Scholar]

Greetings!

For many years, and with immense pleasure, I have studied the great authors of remixed video pornography who publish their works in the wonderful Milovana forum, and elsewhere. During this time we have been blessed with a seemingly endless array of Cock Hero and Porn Music Video creations, to the point where it becomes challenging to keep track of it all. With every day that passes, these artists and their art are lost and forgotten.

Many have attempted to maintain detailed public records for the benefit of all, like the venerable doremi and his predecessors with their HD Cock Hero Downloads Index thread. These efforts are important and laudable, but also inherently limited: There's only so much an individual scholar can do and there's only so much information one can capture in a forum thread before it becomes unwieldy and impractical.

For these reasons, I created the PMV Wiki at https://pmv.wiki!

The mission of PMV Wiki is to map the world of Porn Music Videos. For the shake of semantic convenience, I chose to classify Cock Hero videos as a sub-genre of PMVs but without failing to appreciate the magnitude of the Cock Hero phenomenon itself, and acknowledging that people in this forum are primarily Cock Hero connoisseurs.

But it is for this reason that I write to you today: PMV Wiki needs your help!

Despite being blessed with a notably voluminous cranium befitting of a scholar, and despite my insatiable appetite for musically synchronized pornography, it is simply not possible for me to be aware of all the intricacies of Cock Hero artists and their history. I therefore call upon you to assist me in this scholarly endeavor!

• Do you like Cock Hero and PMVs?
• Do you have an eye for detail?
• Do you maintain a healthy obsession for accurate documentation?
• Does the dread of cultural amnesia keep you up at night?

...then PMV Wiki needs you!

For a PMV Wiki account please DM me, or email me at hipmv(d0t)wiki with your preferred username and email address!

In the meantime, check out some of the pages I've already written:

• Porn Music Video
• Cock Hero
• Mr Candy Man (This one is a good example of an almost complete page. But it can be expanded by adding information about his participation in the World PMV Games)
• A List of PMV artists (including CH artists). Most of the artists in this list don't have pages yet. I'm going through it and creating some every day!

Thank you for your attention and pleased to meet you!
The Carnal Scholar

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[3xTripleXXX]

Looks like a cool project. It'd even be fun participate, but I don't have a ton of time for it. As long as there aren't any time spent requirements, however, I might be interested.

Otherwise, some suggestions for articles and thoughts:

CH creators: add me. :D

That said, softcore vs. hardcore seems to be a very common discussion point and important feature for a lot of members here. Maybe something to add as a column to the works list.

I would love to see Edge Hero added there. Many CH productions have edging components, of course, but some are just edging and are kind of their own subcategory to CH, or a related subcategory of PMV.

How would the acceleration and how long can you last type challenges fit in here? There are CH videos that don't have music, so they wouldn't technically be PMVs.

[The Carnal Scholar]

Looks like a cool project. It'd even be fun participate, but I don't have a ton of time for it. As long as there aren't any time spent requirements, however, I might be interested.

DM me an email and preferred username! Like with anything else, this is a volunteer effort. Nothing is expected and all contributions are appreciated.

Otherwise, some suggestions for articles and thoughts:

CH creators: add me. :D

Done!
https://pmv.wiki/wiki/3xTripleXXX
...but can obviously be extended. See Mr Candy Man's page as a formatting reference.

That said, softcore vs. hardcore seems to be a very common discussion point and important feature for a lot of members here. Maybe something to add as a column to the works list.

Hardcore Vs. Sofcore eludes a precise definition, especially outside of Milovana!. In lieu of robust definitions, I would use the terms more informally when describing individual artists or works. You can also rely a lot on citing the artists' own description of the work from their release posts. For example, in NoodleDude's page, I have included the descriptions for his PMVs that he has on his website and then I also cite it.

I would love to see Edge Hero added there. Many CH productions have edging components, of course, but some are just edging and are kind of their own subcategory to CH, or a related subcategory of PMV.

How would the acceleration and how long can you last type challenges fit in here? There are CH videos that don't have music, so they wouldn't technically be PMVs.

All these intricacies can (and should!) be elaborated on in the main Cock Hero wiki page https://pmv.wiki/wiki/Cock_Hero.
This is precisely why this project requires the collective wisdom of the wider community!

[The Carnal Scholar]

That said, softcore vs. hardcore seems to be a very common discussion point and important feature for a lot of members here. Maybe something to add as a column to the works list.

Hardcore Vs. Sofcore eludes a precise definition, especially outside of Milovana!. In lieu of robust definitions, I would use the terms more informally when describing individual artists or works. You can also rely a lot on citing the artists' own description of the work from their release posts. For example, in NoodleDude's page, I have included the descriptions for his PMVs that he has on his website and then I also cite it.

flyingcactus' wiki page is another good example where I have added notes about "soft" and "hard" versions, relying closely on flyingcactus' original phrasing.

[Strothy]

If I find the time I might chip in with some knowledge about purged videos on Pornhub, before the purge I DLd everything I could find from creators like NinjaDave, and Hydro, also Cunt Lapper, and so on, I got most of the titles and Dates (I think), could be interesting to archive at least the names of the videos that once have been. Still not over the whole Pornhub purge thing xD

[The Carnal Scholar]

If I find the time I might chip in with some knowledge about purged videos on Pornhub, before the purge I DLd everything I could find from creators like NinjaDave, and Hydro, also Cunt Lapper, and so on, I got most of the titles and Dates (I think), could be interesting to archive at least the names of the videos that once have been. Still not over the whole Pornhub purge thing xD

The Great Pornhub Purge is a critical turning point in PMV history and I intend to document it further in the wiki.

If you're not already aware, there was a great effort to collect PMVs from people like you (and me) who had downloaded them prior to the purge. This was done in the PornEdits discord which is run by the same people who run /r/PornMusicVids. The archive was hosted by mega and mega recently took it down. But several people still have full offline copies. The whole thing was over 2TB when it was taken down and it's still growing as more people submitted lost and recovered PMVs.

[The Carnal Scholar]

It'd even be fun participate

BIG shoutout to 3xTripleXXX for jumping in with both feet and getting all the category, internal links, and citation stuff right on the first try!

Here's my quick and dirty version of his page: https://pmv.wiki/index.php?title=3xTripleXXX&oldid=187
And here's his page after he fixed it: https://pmv.wiki/index.php?title=3xTripleXXX&oldid=207

You can see all recent changes here: https://pmv.wiki/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

You're a natural born scholar with what I imagine must be an analogously proportioned cranium.

[3xTripleXXX]

It'd even be fun participate

BIG shoutout to 3xTripleXXX for jumping in with both feet and getting all the category, internal links, and citation stuff right on the first try!

Here's my quick and dirty version of his page: https://pmv.wiki/index.php?title=3xTripleXXX&oldid=187
And here's his page after he fixed it: https://pmv.wiki/index.php?title=3xTripleXXX&oldid=207

You can see all recent changes here: https://pmv.wiki/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

You're a natural born scholar with what I imagine must be an analogously proportioned cranium.

I just used it to get hang of how the wiki markup works, but my background is in software development (though I haven't worked with it for several years now) and I happened to know the subject matter pretty well, so that was easy enough. And it didn't work on the first try. You just didn't see the saves that came with big red error messages. ;)

Anyway, I changed a bit on how the citations were done compared to some of the other tables, so hope that was ok. It made more sense to me to put the refs as citations right on the date, rather than in their own column, especially if more than one type of data needed citations.

But it's a wiki, so feel free to change it if you think something else is better.

That said, I'll try to do some updates here and there that aren't explicitly about me when I have time. :)

[zebbg69]

Very interesting, fellow CH/PMV librarian here and I think I can help. I will DM you.

I document my downloads extensively (pathologically), especially focusing on add-on files such as e-stim and funscripts that are often spread across other sites like eroscripts and socialstim and are often not made by the video creator. With different versions/fixes of the files, or submissions by various fans, there can be quite an intricate web.

Here is an example where I documented blurby's "PEP 6" from his wonderful prostate-focused e-stim/video series. The PEP 6 e-stim had some technical issues initially and is a great example of multiple add-ons made by various people, with different trade-offs.

zebbg69's PEP series documentation
https://mega.nz/folder/D5smTQZY#wS1GWDq2poyi1FzhXqaHHw
"PEP sources.txt" - listing of individual media files with notes, see PEP6 section for a really detailed one
"PEP6 - README.txt" - notes about PEP6 individually
"PEP series FULL catalog.txt" - overview of whole series
(Wow, I never covered PEP10! Must fix that...)

Honestly, I spend much more time researching and maintaining the library than actually watching or stimming! (including running ffmpeg to merge multi-track e-stim audio into these videos... I would love to upload them to share, but that is another matter...)

Most of my other downloads have similar .txt documentation, so if I can find an efficient way to merge my info into the wiki, I'll bet I would geek out on that. I keep a lot of files for a private library but certainly a small fraction of all the PMV content out there.

Another example: a CH with two versions, each with click track, plus two e-stims and four funscripts all by different people

Spoiler: show

Cock Hero - Getting Down With The Thiccness
by 3xTripleXXX

"Follow four curvy, sexy, horny and drop dead fucking gorgeous porn starlets in their journey from dancing teases to gangbanging sluts, then watch them get drenched in a glorious cum round, all of it set to intense beat-heavy music!"
"Angela White, Lena Paul, Kagney Linn Karter, Natasha Nice"
"Masturbation, lesbian, blowjob, fucking, assfucking, more assfucking, gangbang, cum"

"fast paced video, as if the creator combined the final chapter of other Cock Heros into one video... constantly changes speeds and paces, and breaks are very short."

Steady Beats Edition
simpler/familiar patterns not changing too often

Challenge Edition
original version, "timed closely to the music with tricky changes and patterns"

Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:19 am

SOURCE
"3xTripleXXX - Cock Hero Down With the Thiccness Steady Beats Edition.mp4"
https://mega.nz/file/6apWAChT#CAvKFroLr ... hZ6cRBP2SQ
"3xTripleXXX - Cock Hero Down With the Thiccness Challenge Edition.mp4"
https://mega.nz/file/7axQDCRI#v3yD058rU ... ny_hmVMvT0

click tracks
"3xTripleXXX - Cock Hero Down With the Thiccness Steady Beats Edition - Click Track.mp3"
https://mega.nz/file/mLhAkIaI#IIEm2H1b7 ... IIjgF5Mq14
"3xTripleXXX - Cock Hero Down With the Thiccness Challenge Edition - Click Track.mp3"
https://mega.nz/file/eShkyaBJ#7ZDH0MZ1V ... 6XlhbfypoQ

e-stim
"cock hero - getting down with the thickness Steady.mp3" by puste
https://liteshare.co/files/OJ4NV2G
"CH Thicness 80-100ME.mp3" by GiggityStim, (Challenge edition?)
https://mega.nz/#F!9GoGAAIC!lHyEDQRC1R_Llw7opYT2mw
(link now broken, re-upped to https://liteshare.co/files/7CVK5AM)

funscripts
"cock hero - getting down with the thickness Steady.funscript" by Geenge
https://discuss.eroscripts.com/uploads/ ... .funscript
"CH Thiccness.funscript" by Juirrl, Challenge edition
https://discuss.eroscripts.com/uploads/ ... .funscript
[Challenge Edition] Cock Hero - Getting Down With the Thiccness (Hardcore).funscript, by Nodude
https://discuss.eroscripts.com/uploads/ ... .funscript
"Cock Hero - Getting down with the Thiccness.funscript" by FredTungsten, not sure which edition
https://github.com/FredTungsten/Scripts ... ock%20Hero


DISCUSSION
[RELEASE] Getting Down With The Thiccness - New Steady Beats Edition and Challenge Edition!
viewtopic.php?t=22765

zebbg69 reply
viewtopic.php?p=333305#p333305
shares GiggityStim mp3 (for Challenge?)

puste reply
viewtopic.php?p=333284#p333284
shares e-stim mp3 for Steady from Geenge funscript


Cock Hero - Down With The Thiccness (Challenge Edition)
https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/cock-h ... tion/45482
Juirrl shares "CH Thiccness.funscript" for Challenge edition
"stroke length shortens to keep the handy moving 200-300 ms/s while hitting every beat, speeding up to 300-400 ms/s near the end... Beats line up with the bottom of the stroke"

Geenge reply
https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/cock-h ... ?u=zebbg69
shares "cock hero - getting down with the thickness Steady.funscript"


Cock Hero - Getting Down With the Thiccness (Remastered Edition)
https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/cock-h ... ition/4443
Nodude shares "[Challenge Edition] Cock Hero - Getting Down With the Thiccness (Hardcore).funscript"

I try to capture everything necessary to reacquire files as needed or chase new links if old ones stop working, hence the "DISCUSSION" section pointing to key posts in creator threads. Plus, let's admit, I'm really just a kinky librarian who never joined the library.

What do you think about merging e-stim and funscript information into the wiki?

[IrishNachos]

What a great idea! Can't wait to see how the wiki grows over time.

[The Carnal Scholar]

Very interesting, fellow CH/PMV librarian here and I think I can help. I will DM you.
[...]
What do you think about merging e-stim and funscript information into the wiki?

Thanks for volunteering zebbg69!

Given that e-stim and funscripts are very closely related to PMVs, they should absolutely be documented in PMV Wiki.
Sadly, it is unlikely that I will ever acquire the hardware necessary to enjoy these things. My knowledge on the topic will always be that of an outsider. Therefore the wiki will rely on contributors like who are familiar with the space. Still, I will share some initial thoughts on how to organize the information.

Since e-stim and funscripts are tied to specific PMVs and Cock Hero videos, it might make the most sense to add this info in the page of each specific PMV. I point out that I have not made any individual pages for PMVs yet, but this is a very good reason to start doing that. If the original artist is also the author of the scripts, it makes sense to add info about scripts along with the CH and PMV entries directly in the artist's page. If a person is primarily authoring scripts for other people's PMVs, they should have their own page, and also a Category like Category:Script authors similar to Category:PMV artists and Category:Cock Hero artists.

Also question: Is there an umbrella term which describes both e-stim and funscripts? Would "scripts" be appropriate or not? Feel free to document the answer in the Porn Music Video page directly!

These are just my initial thoughts, but ultimately you should do whatever you think makes the most sense, and if I have some objection or correction, I'll let you know.

What a great idea! Can't wait to see how the wiki grows over time.

Thank you!
DM me your email and a username for an account, even if you don't think you'll be editing in the near future, you never know.

Eventually, if the wiki succeeds and continues to grow, I plan to have open registrations. The main reason I haven't already is to postpone dealing with the overhead of configuring and maintaining anti-spam and anti-vandalism mechanisms.

[zebbg69]

Given that e-stim and funscripts are very closely related to PMVs, they should absolutely be documented in PMV Wiki...
it might make the most sense to add this info in the page of each specific PMV... If the original artist is also the author of the scripts, it makes sense to add info about scripts along with the CH and PMV entries directly in the artist's page. If a person is primarily authoring scripts for other people's PMVs, they should have their own page...

Is there an umbrella term which describes both e-stim and funscripts?

Excellent points/ideas/question! I'm glad I asked.
"Scripts" doesn't quite apply to e-stim, but I'm sure we'll come up with something. If anyone has an idea, please share.

I'll find a spot to start adding content soon. Thanks!

[The Carnal Scholar]

I'll find a spot to start adding content soon. Thanks!

I think the easiest place to start is with a Cock Hero artist page. doremi's thread is immensely useful for this. Pick one of your favorite CH artists from the list and then look at some of the existing CH artist pages on wiki for formatting reference, like 3xTripleXXX's page for example. And if you have any other questions just ask.

[zebbg69]

I think the easiest place to start is with a Cock Hero artist page...

I'm planning to jump in with the original CH series, 15 vids by lalaland, andyp, and vindicare. I have extensive notes and links from my project of merging e-stim files with all of them. I noticed a lalaland page is already begun, so I will hook into it.

Thanks!

[The Carnal Scholar]

I have just finished documenting all the key information for the World PMV Games 2022 competition in PMV Wiki!

This is an excellent opportunity to showcase the potential of a wiki while also presenting you, the Milovana community, all the concentrated information about this very influential PMV event. While it's likely that you've all heard of the World PMV Games, I am all but certain that some of the information in this wiki page will surprise you!

Here's only the summary of the event:

The World PMV Games 2022 competition was announced on /r/PornMusicVids by sabermix on January 20, 2022.[4] It was further organized and directed by skerrako who also announced his retirement as World PMV Games organizer. The winner and top 10 ranking was determined by a panel of eight judges and a weighted public vote. Forty four PMV artists participated in the event.[5]. The public poll received votes from 1061 fans.[6] A custom nft trophy was created by A Ghoul Editor for the winner.[7]

The winner of the World PMV Games 2022 is NoodleDude with their entry "Kawaii vs Goth".

Visit the World PMV Games 2022 wiki page to see all the details.

Consider now that the same can (and will) be done for events like the Cock Hero Softcore Collaboration: Documenting all participating Cock Hero artists, linking to their individual wiki pages, documenting details about specific works, etc...

As always, if you are willing and able to help in this documentation effort, please DM me an email and a preferred username for a wiki account. All editing contributions are welcome. And thank you to all the people who have already joined!