The multiplayer support probably wouldn't be added unless it was a big feature. It's a pretty big technology challenge to add multiplayer support and I don't think it'd be worth it just to get some basic info about other's sessions.clayk0 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:33 amI don't mean it in the sense of where are your eyes looking at the picture/video, but what is shown.ski23 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:08 pm PuryFi wouldn't be able to see what the user is looking at. It can only detect nudity but can't tell things like where people are looking.
I've thought about some kind of multiplayer functionality. It seems interesting but I'm not exactly sure how it could work.
PuryFi can differ between faces, armpits, anus, genitalia(male/female), boobs, ass, bellys, feet, buttocks, both clothed and naked.
Multiplayer functionality can be pretty primitive, I think.
I wouldn't try to create a real life multiplayer session (which surely would be awesome on it's own), because it seems a massive project of it's own, but maybe get some rudimentary Infos from other players (of course only if the player allows it) and teases you with it.
Maybe how many times you denied them, or how many times they were forced to edge in your last session with them. Or maybe the info that they had earned an orgasm (and you don't).
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Yea it always feels like a battle between having a good flow of the session vs feeling repetitive. This is one of the biggest challenges with teasing software.Triple Alfa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:25 am This sounds really exciting. I'll give my two cents.
I was the primary tester for Tease AI when it first got created and really saw the potential in that project. Unfortunately as the project advanced I found it more and more difficult to keep track of with the inner workings especially given the limited documentation. This made it too difficult for me to ever finish any personalities for it.
So one of the biggest requests that I'd like to put forth is making any creation of custom content and customization as simple and manageable as possible. (Also if you need a tester just message me.)
I know this is a really difficult problem to tackle, but probably the biggest weakness of current randomized teasing options is the lack of structure and progress in the teases. A good hand-made tease will build the player up to an ending. In randomized teasing programs this structure is usually lost and thus endings are often far less satisfying.
I saw another poster request options for more "new" content that the program would pull from the internet. I'd like to request the exact opposite. For me random stuff from the internet contains only a small fraction of quality content. Using the images and videos I've vetted and are guaranteed of high quality makes teases infinitely better for me.
This one might be obvious, but some tend to forget. 3D Renders and 2D Hentai are a thing that people enjoy. Please consider that some users will want to use your program for pure 3D and/or 2D teasing and thus you should avoid making any fixed references to real life. Also please make sure that special features like the censoring work on that type of content as well.
Since this is going to use next gen tech it would be really awesome to have more advanced stroking indicators than just a metronome. I'm not sure what the best option would be, but just to give a few wildly different examples I've seen other programs use:
- Cock hero style moving bar
- Animated 3D penis/dildo that shows the actual stroking technique and speed(and toy)
You asked in the OP if people would be more interested in sessions or 24/7 content. For me it is definitely sessions.
Another thing that might be obvious to you, but should be mentioned regardless is everyone is different. Please don't make any assumptions when creating the core of your system. Examples of bad assumptions:
-The system will only be used for dom/sub content.
-Everyone accepts denial.
-X feels good for everyone.
-Everyone has item X available.
-The user has enough privacy to make noise.
I'm sorry if these things are blindingly obvious to you, but I've seen too many content creators on the internet make these types of assumptions not to mention it.
I'm sure there is a lot more to say, but that's all I can think of at the moment.
Again I'd like to express my excitement for the project and offer my testing services if they are needed.
So, the content would probably still be local but there may also be options to have an embedded web page inside the media viewer so you could find a video on a porn website you want to watch.
A better moving bar for a metronome definitely seems like a good idea. The only potential challenge is the fact that the domme can change the speed at any moments time but those moving bars show a few seconds into the future. Either way should definitely be possible and something I was planning to add in some form.
Yea all the assumptions you listed at the bottom make sense and I wasn't assuming any of those except maybe the first one. What do you mean exactly by the system will only be used for dom/sub content?
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Yeah! There was a JOI Video player on this site: viewtopic.php?t=22635ski23 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:55 am I’m also interested in the anticheat functions. Maybe some stuff like if you close the program in the middle of a session the domme will assume you came and punish you next time. Also I can store the domme’s information about you in an encrypted fashion so its not possible to go in and change the files to avoid a punishment.
Which randomly chooses a JOI video. You could set your cheat mode between
1. Not beeing able to skip in the video or use your mouse (could be cancled by task manager)
2. Not beeing able to skip the Video or use any input (no taskmanager possible, but restart)
3. The above but the programm notices your restart and you get a realy good punishment ^^
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This is actually quite easy now. In my video player I can just choose whether or not to have a pause/skip button. Then it makes it easy to not allow pausing/skipping the video.Theo-Seiler wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:02 pmYeah! There was a JOI Video player on this site: viewtopic.php?t=22635ski23 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:55 am I’m also interested in the anticheat functions. Maybe some stuff like if you close the program in the middle of a session the domme will assume you came and punish you next time. Also I can store the domme’s information about you in an encrypted fashion so its not possible to go in and change the files to avoid a punishment.
Which randomly chooses a JOI video. You could set your cheat mode between
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2. Not beeing able to skip the Video or use any input (no taskmanager possible, but restart)
3. The above but the programm notices your restart and you get a realy good punishment ^^
I know this is technically a huge security risk but gave me soo much thrill
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One thing that i wanted to add is that i hope it will be possible to have it behave more likely to teaseAI than Replika, meaning that, with TAI, the domme talks on her own without the need of constant inputs from you while replika write a single sentence and then you need to alternate between you and her talking.
I would love if it could be her more proactive, like the taunts/stories that she tells you in TAI while going through scripts.
For example she tells you to edge and, after a while, if you havent already told her you're on edge, se could taunt you with other phrases like "if it takes you so long maybe i should just give up on training you" or things like those.
I would love if it could be her more proactive, like the taunts/stories that she tells you in TAI while going through scripts.
For example she tells you to edge and, after a while, if you havent already told her you're on edge, se could taunt you with other phrases like "if it takes you so long maybe i should just give up on training you" or things like those.
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Yep. Thats exactly how it will function. All of it is currently being designed but have no fear. It will talk without you always having to reply first.Daragorn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:31 pm One thing that i wanted to add is that i hope it will be possible to have it behave more likely to teaseAI than Replika, meaning that, with TAI, the domme talks on her own without the need of constant inputs from you while replika write a single sentence and then you need to alternate between you and her talking.
I would love if it could be her more proactive, like the taunts/stories that she tells you in TAI while going through scripts.
For example she tells you to edge and, after a while, if you havent already told her you're on edge, se could taunt you with other phrases like "if it takes you so long maybe i should just give up on training you" or things like those.
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Hi Ski,
Highly appreciate this project!
I would be happy if it would be somehow story driven and estim enabled as I love it to be stimulated this way.
I'd be more than happy if you would consider to include a estim possibility.
If there are videos with audio, it would be more than perfect to have a settings tab to specify on which device the video audio should be played and on which the estim should be played.
Many many thanks in advance for all your effort on this topic in general!
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Highly appreciate this project!
I would be happy if it would be somehow story driven and estim enabled as I love it to be stimulated this way.
I'd be more than happy if you would consider to include a estim possibility.
If there are videos with audio, it would be more than perfect to have a settings tab to specify on which device the video audio should be played and on which the estim should be played.
Many many thanks in advance for all your effort on this topic in general!
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This one definitely makes sense. A detail to keep in mind is making sure the domme picks videos with a reasonable length for the task at hand (or plays only some portion of a longer video). There's probably some good fun if she can mix up a number of excerpts from different videos too, but that's a luxury detail and not a need for sure.
As for pulling internet content, I agree with a previous poster that curated, hand picked content is better. However, hand-picked is also much more limited and never a real surprise. I for one don't have much porn stored on my machine, and probably never will. An integrated browser might be a good compromise here (and more robust than TAI relying completely on Tumblr for example), although this can also break the immersion of the domme sending a specific link, video or image. Maybe there is a middle ground where the domme can link the player to a specific category page or something, telling the player to pick one of the videos there. For images, perhaps she can use subreddits that the player chooses before hand (to help cut down on lower quality content).
I'll also add it can be a very fun, hot surprise when the domme finds some new content I haven't seen before which really is super sexy. That doesn't happen if it only uses local files, since I've seen them all before.
That said, it's probably not a good idea to ever have the domme fully reliant on web-content for something. So maybe there is an a local only option where the domme will use local files, even if she would normally go for web content.
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Through one time setup I'd like for the tease software to know exactly what toy inventory I have and what clothing I have. This is available for any domme I may choose. It should know what toys are comfortable to insert and which are difficult. It should know which clothing can be hidden under normal clothes and what clothing pieces can be combined.
The system should also know other info like my living situation, when I'm generally available and some personal information like my preferences and limits.
The domme can then use this information in many ways in sessions or as daily task.
The system should also know other info like my living situation, when I'm generally available and some personal information like my preferences and limits.
The domme can then use this information in many ways in sessions or as daily task.
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For example you can have a "girlfriend experience"-tease or a JOI session where the teaser is not superior but an equal. Depending on the system you might even be able to write the player as the dom.
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This sounds really interesting and a real step forward beyond TAI/J. Excited to see where this goes!
Some random thoughs on your questions:
- sessions are preferable to 24/7, but memory retention between sessions is key to creating the illusion that you're dealing with a real person. Did you fail on some task today? Maybe tomorrow it makes you try again.
- story-driven vs organic conversation is a balancing act. With miss Blue I tried to give the impression that your relation with the Domme evolves as she learns more about you. Thus creating a kind of story over multiple sessions. It would be great to see that combined with more free flowing conversation. Maybe Replika AI- style conversation that can trigger more rigidly scripted parts under certain conditions? If possible the system should also have longer memory during sessions,so that it can decide "today's session will be about X" and not forget after 10 seconds.
- kinks/toys etc: that's highly individual, so basically include as much as possible, but make 100% sure everything is optional. Nothing worse in a tease than finding out halfway through that some toy you don't have is required.
Some random thoughs on your questions:
- sessions are preferable to 24/7, but memory retention between sessions is key to creating the illusion that you're dealing with a real person. Did you fail on some task today? Maybe tomorrow it makes you try again.
- story-driven vs organic conversation is a balancing act. With miss Blue I tried to give the impression that your relation with the Domme evolves as she learns more about you. Thus creating a kind of story over multiple sessions. It would be great to see that combined with more free flowing conversation. Maybe Replika AI- style conversation that can trigger more rigidly scripted parts under certain conditions? If possible the system should also have longer memory during sessions,so that it can decide "today's session will be about X" and not forget after 10 seconds.
- kinks/toys etc: that's highly individual, so basically include as much as possible, but make 100% sure everything is optional. Nothing worse in a tease than finding out halfway through that some toy you don't have is required.
Here my preference is the exact opposite. Personally I like the idea of introducing kinks/toys through conversation rather than a menu of check boxes. It would be nice if both the AI and the user can initiate these conversations.Truewilling wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:29 pm Through one time setup I'd like for the tease software to know exactly what toy inventory I have and what clothing I have. This is available for any domme I may choose. It should know what toys are comfortable to insert and which are difficult. It should know which clothing can be hidden under normal clothes and what clothing pieces can be combined.
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Thank OP for your contribution. Looking forward to a TeaseAI equivalent on Android.
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Been working on a few other projects recently but I do have most of the pieces working on this (outside of the full AI chatting part).
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While the sessions - approach is not bad, I for one would enjoy an experience a lot where the AI communicates outside the sessions as well, to tease or to check on the user.
I would like settings on my kinks to be easily accessible /changeable, and for the AI to understand that for example sometimes I cannot make noise, so some kinks might be circumstancial.
I think the main thing that would make it feel more person like for me if they could hold a conversation on sex and kinks , and maybe even more importantly would be curious about pushing/ testing my limits. Imagine you could talk with it like with a real domme even about specific techniques. You'd tell her about palming and she would be curious about how to make it as sensitive as possible etc.
I think the defult personality should be capable of being understanding and caring about safety (one of those things that must be taught apriori) but should be able to switch to have a demanding or cruel attitude. An AI could be interested in exploring her own settings so to speak . This doesnt sound very human-like but in practice we can just understand it as curiosity.
Maybe the way Im imagining it is too much like tease-AI becoming a real AI. But I guess we still need somekind of framework for settings, and different modes and moods.
An AI needs to be taught but a Domme needs to be the one calling the shots, and I would use "session" and "off-session" modes to divide when she is very receptive and when she is minimally receptive.
By the final version we could call the settings-menu a "contract" that the user could modify based on talking with the AI. But as a barebones first version I think we'll need a bunch of tick boxes and scales like in TAI.
It would be super cute if instead of throwing an error - in most cases where possible - the AI would ask the user , or tell them to fix things when their normal functioning is halted (like they cant find an image, or a tag, or a link is dead)
I would like settings on my kinks to be easily accessible /changeable, and for the AI to understand that for example sometimes I cannot make noise, so some kinks might be circumstancial.
I think the main thing that would make it feel more person like for me if they could hold a conversation on sex and kinks , and maybe even more importantly would be curious about pushing/ testing my limits. Imagine you could talk with it like with a real domme even about specific techniques. You'd tell her about palming and she would be curious about how to make it as sensitive as possible etc.
I think the defult personality should be capable of being understanding and caring about safety (one of those things that must be taught apriori) but should be able to switch to have a demanding or cruel attitude. An AI could be interested in exploring her own settings so to speak . This doesnt sound very human-like but in practice we can just understand it as curiosity.
Maybe the way Im imagining it is too much like tease-AI becoming a real AI. But I guess we still need somekind of framework for settings, and different modes and moods.
An AI needs to be taught but a Domme needs to be the one calling the shots, and I would use "session" and "off-session" modes to divide when she is very receptive and when she is minimally receptive.
By the final version we could call the settings-menu a "contract" that the user could modify based on talking with the AI. But as a barebones first version I think we'll need a bunch of tick boxes and scales like in TAI.
It would be super cute if instead of throwing an error - in most cases where possible - the AI would ask the user , or tell them to fix things when their normal functioning is halted (like they cant find an image, or a tag, or a link is dead)
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