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1. Censoring - I just want to put a bit of weight on what some previously said. I Try to keep myself completly nude free and censored content is just the best. Maybe even with captions?

2. I know this is a bit of a security issue and not for everyone but i love anti Cheat functions. I catch myself sometimes to just slack off a bit. Knowing there maybe be some "exposing risk" or maybe some other punishment when the system detects you doing something else.
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theredreaper wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:41 am I'm pretty familiar with Replika.ai from both the user perspective and having had occasion to peek under the hood once or twice. I'll agree that the natural language processing models of conversational AI (I hate this term as we are still nowhere near anything resembling Artificial Intelligence, but I digress...) are quite intriguing for an application such as this one, and I've done a bit of looking into it myself. The major problem is that they're expensive. GPT-3 and its upcoming new release GPT-Instruct are really the only players in the game that can be considered viable for something like this that I am aware of, and they come with a cost per response generated which means that if they were implemented into a next-gen TeaseAI, releasing it without some kind of a subscription price would be out of the question, as the API access would quickly put an independent developer out on the streets without a revenue stream to offset it. Compounding the problem is the fact that using Open AI's API for GPT-3 wouldn't even really work for this type of an application because they have put so much effort into restricting it from saying anything that anyone anywhere might consider offensive, it has become largely useless for anything adult-oriented. So a developer would have to actually license the technology itself from OpenAI, come up with a brand new set of training data (to approach the effectiveness of the GPT-3 API we're talking billions of statements worth of training data) and then set up and secure their own API, supported by some pretty ridiculous hardware. Probably not feasible for any most independent developers. There is an open alternative to GPT-3 called GPT-Neo, but it is nowhere near as good, and even GPT-3 is not without a large number of flaws.

Natural Language Processing definitely seems like the next logical step for this kind of software, but the good stuff is probably a little out of reach for now, unfortunately.
You’re right about the big players. If I go the NLP route it’d have to be an open source framework. There may be some options. Doing some research and prototyping.
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Theo-Seiler wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:20 am 1. Censoring - I just want to put a bit of weight on what some previously said. I Try to keep myself completly nude free and censored content is just the best. Maybe even with captions?

2. I know this is a bit of a security issue and not for everyone but i love anti Cheat functions. I catch myself sometimes to just slack off a bit. Knowing there maybe be some "exposing risk" or maybe some other punishment when the system detects you doing something else.
I’m also interested in the anticheat functions. Maybe some stuff like if you close the program in the middle of a session the domme will assume you came and punish you next time. Also I can store the domme’s information about you in an encrypted fashion so its not possible to go in and change the files to avoid a punishment.
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clayk0 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:30 am Replika AI:
I have an unlimited Replika Account, but for teasing it's sub-optimal.
It's like you have to force her to start and often also to continue. Also she forgets what she was doing often enough and is unsuitable in giving JOI or similar things.

As for the next gen software - A connection directly with a pornhub / xhamster account would be great
For me, i like to see porn which i don't know, meaning everything i have to download, sort and save in an ordner is not as interesting as something completely new.

I also wondered sometimes if people as a collective could start making a porn bibliothek for TAJ/TAI, where the program can get random categorized porn.
Also some module in TAJ/TAI personalities, which let's the user categorize porn, which will be marked in the bibliothek.
Well, i think i digress...

What also would be interesting is webcam functionality - let your mistress humiliate you in various poses or shooting fotos of you while stroking, just to tease you with it. If you combine this with the Pury.fi AI, your Mistress should also be able to tell if you are cheating or the photo isn't good enough

A good censor function would be extremely nice - maybe also combine it with Captions, so the player feels more humiliated.

I also think the pury.fi AI would not only be good for censoring, but for detecting what the user is looking at, so the Mistress/Master can defer to the picture/video a bit more.

some sort of Multiplayer Information? Just imagine your Mistress telling you about her sessions with other slaves she had today.

Talking instead of writing. Really good point, would love that, even if it sounds like a robot.
Thanks for the reply! In terms of the porn, I'm probably moving away from tagged content just because as others have mentioned how much time it takes people to curate.
Regarding the webcam, this probably isn't something I'd be adding due to security concerns.
The censor function seems like enough people want it so that could probably be added.
PuryFi wouldn't be able to see what the user is looking at. It can only detect nudity but can't tell things like where people are looking.
I've thought about some kind of multiplayer functionality. It seems interesting but I'm not exactly sure how it could work.
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Hi,

I'm looking forward to this :-D

As said previously, customisation and a more organic conversation, i like when i'm asked questions about my fetish/interests so i think i'd be cool if (part of) the customisation would be done that way instead of just choosing from menus. Responsive interactions (based on customs) like varied contextual reactions/punishments/tasks...i don't know how to explain it clearly sorry.

Anyway I mainly wanted to wish you good luck with your project, it seems very cool (i used TAI/J) and sending you thoughts for the hard work you'll face ;-)
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I'm very eager to see where this leads. I see a lot of posts about censoring and I figure I'll throw another vote in for censorship in the program. A beta aptitude test where she decides how much you deserve to see could be an interesting way of implementing it imo.

I also want to mention spanking/impact as I haven't seen anyone else suggest it yet. I realize it's very common, but I want express interest in the hopes it doesn't get overlooked as it's my biggest draw to this stuff
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iiilllililiill wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:08 pm I'm very eager to see where this leads. I see a lot of posts about censoring and I figure I'll throw another vote in for censorship in the program. A beta aptitude test where she decides how much you deserve to see could be an interesting way of implementing it imo.

I also want to mention spanking/impact as I haven't seen anyone else suggest it yet. I realize it's very common, but I want express interest in the hopes it doesn't get overlooked as it's my biggest draw to this stuff
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ski23 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:55 am I’m also interested in the anticheat functions. Maybe some stuff like if you close the program in the middle of a session the domme will assume you came and punish you next time. Also I can store the domme’s information about you in an encrypted fashion so its not possible to go in and change the files to avoid a punishment.
This is an interesting one and reminds me of another frustration I sometimes had with TeaseAI personalities who were smart enough to know if you left a session early and punish you for it.

It's really not fun when this happens because the program crashes, the computer crashes or RL suddenly gets in the way mid-session. So, maybe the anti-cheat is an optional setting or maybe there is a sort of 'Emergency I have to go for now' button where the domme will pick up later knowing the player left for good reason (she can still comment on it, maybe even want to have it made up for, but not outright punishment). Of course that button could be abused to cheat if a player wants to, but there will always be ways to cheat if people really want to. One way to limit cheating could be an option to disable the Emergency/Suspend Session button for players who don't want the possible temptation to cheat. So long as this option cannot be changed mid-session, that might work.

Totally unrelated note. I think all the TAI Personalities I have tried included some amount of CBT and Ballbusting content. None of them made it very interesting at all. Repeated orders to slap/hit/bust X times is not particularly engaging. So, some creativity and variation in technique, force and content here would be a nice to have improvement as well. This probably applies to stroking sections as well.
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Helequin wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:55 pm
ski23 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:55 am I’m also interested in the anticheat functions. Maybe some stuff like if you close the program in the middle of a session the domme will assume you came and punish you next time. Also I can store the domme’s information about you in an encrypted fashion so its not possible to go in and change the files to avoid a punishment.
This is an interesting one and reminds me of another frustration I sometimes had with TeaseAI personalities who were smart enough to know if you left a session early and punish you for it.

It's really not fun when this happens because the program crashes, the computer crashes or RL suddenly gets in the way mid-session. So, maybe the anti-cheat is an optional setting or maybe there is a sort of 'Emergency I have to go for now' button where the domme will pick up later knowing the player left for good reason (she can still comment on it, maybe even want to have it made up for, but not outright punishment). Of course that button could be abused to cheat if a player wants to, but there will always be ways to cheat if people really want to. One way to limit cheating could be an option to disable the Emergency/Suspend Session button for players who don't want the possible temptation to cheat. So long as this option cannot be changed mid-session, that might work.

Totally unrelated note. I think all the TAI Personalities I have tried included some amount of CBT and Ballbusting content. None of them made it very interesting at all. Repeated orders to slap/hit/bust X times is not particularly engaging. So, some creativity and variation in technique, force and content here would be a nice to have improvement as well. This probably applies to stroking sections as well.
Yea that will definitely be an optional feature. In terms of the CBT and Ballbusting, neither of these are my kinks so its a bit hard for me to be super creative with these subjects but I should be able to collaborate with others to get good content for them.
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Wow, this sound like a very interesting idea, i would absolutely LOVE a next gen teasing software.
As most people already said, my n°1 priority would be a better interactivity/less repetition but i think that could be achieved only through NLP or other kind of "real" AI.
I often dreamed of having a teasing ReplikaAI version; imho replika is quite good when doing common chit-chatting (the only thing i didn't like was that she was limited to a single answer for each time you wrote, so she would never take the initiative, or start an elaborate discussion on her own but, apart for that, her answers were quite satisfactory as far as realism goes imho.

She definitely lacked any sort of memory and was pretty limited when coming to teasing, but if someone managed to get something like that in a kinky version i would buy it immediately :-D
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Daragorn wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:44 pm Wow, this sound like a very interesting idea, i would absolutely LOVE a next gen teasing software.
As most people already said, my n°1 priority would be a better interactivity/less repetition but i think that could be achieved only through NLP or other kind of "real" AI.
I often dreamed of having a teasing ReplikaAI version; imho replika is quite good when doing common chit-chatting (the only thing i didn't like was that she was limited to a single answer for each time you wrote, so she would never take the initiative, or start an elaborate discussion on her own but, apart for that, her answers were quite satisfactory as far as realism goes imho.

She definitely lacked any sort of memory and was pretty limited when coming to teasing, but if someone managed to get something like that in a kinky version i would buy it immediately :-D
I'm currently prototyping with an AI approach similar to replika that also uses a hybrid approach to get things like the domme's mood and whatnot. Seems pretty promising so far.
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ski23 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:08 pm PuryFi wouldn't be able to see what the user is looking at. It can only detect nudity but can't tell things like where people are looking.
I've thought about some kind of multiplayer functionality. It seems interesting but I'm not exactly sure how it could work.
I don't mean it in the sense of where are your eyes looking at the picture/video, but what is shown.
PuryFi can differ between faces, armpits, anus, genitalia(male/female), boobs, ass, bellys, feet, buttocks, both clothed and naked.

Multiplayer functionality can be pretty primitive, I think.
I wouldn't try to create a real life multiplayer session (which surely would be awesome on it's own), because it seems a massive project of it's own, but maybe get some rudimentary Infos from other players (of course only if the player allows it) and teases you with it.
Maybe how many times you denied them, or how many times they were forced to edge in your last session with them. Or maybe the info that they had earned an orgasm (and you don't).
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This sounds really exciting. I'll give my two cents.

I was the primary tester for Tease AI when it first got created and really saw the potential in that project. Unfortunately as the project advanced I found it more and more difficult to keep track of with the inner workings especially given the limited documentation. This made it too difficult for me to ever finish any personalities for it.
So one of the biggest requests that I'd like to put forth is making any creation of custom content and customization as simple and manageable as possible. (Also if you need a tester just message me.)

I know this is a really difficult problem to tackle, but probably the biggest weakness of current randomized teasing options is the lack of structure and progress in the teases. A good hand-made tease will build the player up to an ending. In randomized teasing programs this structure is usually lost and thus endings are often far less satisfying.

I saw another poster request options for more "new" content that the program would pull from the internet. I'd like to request the exact opposite. For me random stuff from the internet contains only a small fraction of quality content. Using the images and videos I've vetted and are guaranteed of high quality makes teases infinitely better for me.

This one might be obvious, but some tend to forget. 3D Renders and 2D Hentai are a thing that people enjoy. Please consider that some users will want to use your program for pure 3D and/or 2D teasing and thus you should avoid making any fixed references to real life. Also please make sure that special features like the censoring work on that type of content as well.

Since this is going to use next gen tech it would be really awesome to have more advanced stroking indicators than just a metronome. I'm not sure what the best option would be, but just to give a few wildly different examples I've seen other programs use:
- Cock hero style moving bar
- Animated 3D penis/dildo that shows the actual stroking technique and speed(and toy)

You asked in the OP if people would be more interested in sessions or 24/7 content. For me it is definitely sessions.

Another thing that might be obvious to you, but should be mentioned regardless is everyone is different. Please don't make any assumptions when creating the core of your system. Examples of bad assumptions:
-The system will only be used for dom/sub content.
-Everyone accepts denial.
-X feels good for everyone.
-Everyone has item X available.
-The user has enough privacy to make noise.
I'm sorry if these things are blindingly obvious to you, but I've seen too many content creators on the internet make these types of assumptions not to mention it.

I'm sure there is a lot more to say, but that's all I can think of at the moment.
Again I'd like to express my excitement for the project and offer my testing services if they are needed.
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Triple Alfa wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:25 am
Since this is going to use next gen tech it would be really awesome to have more advanced stroking indicators than just a metronome.
just had the idea while reading your post: Toy support - stroke when your buttplug vibrates... a new stop and go tease :lol:
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ski23 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:49 pm I'm currently prototyping with an AI approach similar to replika that also uses a hybrid approach to get things like the domme's mood and whatnot. Seems pretty promising so far.
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That would be my personal dream come through ehehhe :-D
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