[ARCHIVE][Alpha] Dev Talk

[avatarbr]

Nice to see a new update


I just tested and get some bugs too:

- The popup sometimes is empty

- Sometimes you can't click in a word when asked about the picture.

- sometimes just stop working. That happened once in the second game (pick a kink to edge while she show pictures). But I don't know if it is a specific problem with the game, since I got stuck in other random times.


I did not try to reset like Markus did, but I will try a clear install later to see if these problems are related with 'old saves'.


EDIT: Just did a full reset, but got the 'can't click the option in the popup' problem again. Exiting and going back cause the stuck problem again.

[basim]

Hey, good to see you both. Thanks for giving it a quickt test! I'm so glad I asked you guys. On my PC's Archive worked flawless..

Hi again!

It seems to me that there is a problem in restart/loading progress/continue where one has left, I don't have a 'strange behaviour', it doesn't continue at all.
Here is what I've tried today (I had it played with the last version till the end):
1. Started, she asked if we shall continue, I clicked on 'Go ahead', then just nothing happend anymore.
2. Started, she aske...

I assume that this is not a timer problem. But a very unique one. You left of the old version with an unfinished game session. My guess is, that the program wants to return to a point in story that don't existing anymore (because of me working on it). On the other ahnd this does not explain why you have problems to resume after you reseted the gameplay data. Hmm... I'll send you a pm with more infos to troubleshot that problem.

I just tested and get some bugs too:

- The popup sometimes is empty

- Sometimes you can't click ....

This indeed is a bug that worries me. My first guess is a problem with the new UI elements. Which would be an easy fix. Hopefully this is the problem. I'll have look into the code. I'll also send you an PM to keep this thread somewhat tidy.

[basim]

Ok, so here is a new version again. 0.2.016

- Fixed the issue where Archive trys to return to a no longer existing part of the story.
- The new buttons may had a problem while pressing them. Maybe problems with that are gone.. but this is only a huge MAYBE .. I assume the problem with not able to press buttons is something totally different.
- Added a function that writes a log file when an error in code occures. You'll find this txt in the games directory > "Logs". This info may not help you much but me if you pm it.. ;)

Here is the new download url:
*Edit - see later posts..

[Kinkyboots]

Great work so far. I really enjoyed a few sessions. I got stuck one time where i couldnt click on any tags. And one time where she asked me before i came, to choose a picture to edge to. I click a few times next picture. Suddenly the window with the hot picuture or next picture disappeard. The rest was smooth and i enjoyed it.
Another question would be where i can add more media links. In the beginning i choose mainly chastity topics and now the kink game doesnt make a lot of sense. I added sites from bdsmlr.com more in the media folder, but now i just got for 3 sessions always pictures i tagged before if a want to add something but no new ones..what did i do wrong?

[Daragorn]

Hi am giving Archive a try since yesterday and i have to say that it is really really a promising software, congratulation for developing it.
I really like her way of acting and speaking, something between dominant but still funny/playful....her character is really well developed and has definitely a thing going.

My only issue so far is that i have it stucking a ton of times, basically every single time i tried playing it after a while it just stopped working, either not going onward of with the problem of not being able to click on the buttons to tell her what kind of picture she was showing (even with the last fix i still have that issue happening quite often). Basically it makes it nearly unplayable to me since it gets stuck 99% of the times during a session and even reloading doesn't fix it. The only way is usually just to ask her to restart.

Apart for those stability issues, though, i am definitely looking forward to see how it develops cause it is one of the most intruiging software since the, by now quite old, teaseAI.

I wanted also to suggest you to consider the possibility of implementing Text To Speech into it (i have been using it with teaseAI and i am addicted to it, just going back to reading instead of listening seems a lot less engaging).

[basim]

Hello everyone,

it's awesome to get all of your feedback! Not only that you are telling me about the bugs. Your ideas and experiences you geather while playing are as important, too.

I'm currently investigate that button issue when pressing a kink button. But I got different feedback. For some of you it works as for me, but most of you have problems. So, can you send me a pm with the content of the bugreport? If you got stuck and can't press a kink button, have a look at the folder of Archive. Search for a directory called "Logs". If there is one, a log file has been written. Take a look if it's timestamp is matching your stuck problem. And if yes, please send me the content of this textfile as pm.

Great work so far. I really enjoyed a few sessions. I got stuck one time where i couldnt click on any tags. And one time where she asked me before i came, to choose a picture to edge to. I click a few times next picture. Suddenly the window with the hot picuture or next picture disappeard. The rest was smooth and i enjoyed it.
Another question would be where i can add more media links. In the beginning i choose mainly chastity topics and now the kink game doesnt make a lot of sense. I added sites from bdsmlr.com more in the media folder, but now i just got for 3 sessions always pictures i tagged before if a want to add something but no new ones..what did i do wrong?

Hello Kinkyboots,

first of all, thank you! I'm glad you had some good moments with Archive. And of course thanks for your feedback.

Regarding the button problem, as you read above, I'm on it! ;)

That the dialogbox disapeared is strange. I'll have look at this story part. For now I've no idea what this can be. This never occured yet. Did you spam the button?

The medialink topic I have to think about. Right now you only change that one folder/website Archive is pulling new pictures from. When you play games, especially the one you mentioned, she uses her own folder / list of images. The one where she stores the tags about an image. It can only work this way as she must have this info about an image in order to work.
But I got your point of somewhat being stucked storywise. For now you have to play with here some more time and hope that she decides to watch with you some more new images.
Both of this is a bit impractical. I'll write me some notes and do fixes to that later.

I wanted also to suggest you to consider the possibility of implementing Text To Speech into it (i have been using it with teaseAI and i am addicted to it, just going back to reading instead of listening seems a lot less engaging).

Hi Daragon,

thank's for your words. It's great to know that you like her as she is. And I can tell you it's fun to create her this way. When creating new images of her I often have to laugh about her expressions.

That you got stuck so often is a shame. The last version was quite stable. But, of course, also only after some quick fixes. And this is where we are at. As discribed above, that's what im foccused on right now. Because, like as you said, it's unplayable right now.

Text-to-speech is something I really did enjoy in TeaseAI, too. So this feature is allready on my list! I did some research on this the other days. Yet I'll have to spend more time on that. My dreamgoal would be to implement one of the new neural network synthetic vocies. But the implementation into unity is quite a challenge, especially if it must work realtime . Yet I have no clue. I saw a plugin that is currently in development (I forgott the name). The company is not in public beta right now and only asks to apply for testing. I assume Archive and her topic is not the kind of test environment they are gladly choose to work with.
But this synthetic voices become a thing in the near future. I confident we will see this feature in Archive.


Have a nice sunday,
basim

[Daragorn]

Hi Daragon,

thank's for your words. It's great to know that you like her as she is. And I can tell you it's fun to create her this way. When creating new images of her I often have to laugh about her expressions.

That you got stuck so often is a shame. The last version was quite stable. But, of course, also only after some quick fixes. And this is where we are at. As discribed above, that's what im foccused on right now. Because, like as you said, it's unplayable right now.

Text-to-speech is something I really did enjoy in TeaseAI, too. So this feature is allready on my list! I did some research on this the other days. Yet I'll have to spend more time on that. My dreamgoal would be to implement one of the new neural network synthetic vocies. But the implementation into unity is quite a challenge, especially if it must work realtime . Yet I have no clue. I saw a plugin that is currently in development (I forgott the name). The company is not in public beta right now and only asks to apply for testing. I assume Archive and her topic is not the kind of test environment they are gladly choose to work with.
But this synthetic voices become a thing in the near future. I confident we will see this feature in Archive.


Have a nice sunday,
basim

I can definitely see that you put a lot of passion into it, and it definitely shows. I like a lot how playful she is and i have to say that despite a few grammar/vocab errors (i can understand, i am not native english speaker either), you definitely have given her a very well developed character; she definitely has the feeling of a IA trying to learn.

I also liked a lot how she slowly introduces you to new games. Another suggestion i have (but maybe it is already present i don't know, as i said i have barely managed to get her to work for a few minutes at a time before getting stuck) is that, maybe you could add some possibility for the user to ask for mercy and/or stop when she makes you hold an edge....i had a pair or times where she ordered me to keep an edge for a quite long time and, i think, that having the chance to tell her it is too much or giving up (obviously, maybe, with some kind of consequences, like a punishment, or a credit loss i don't know) would be a nice addition.

Another "bug" i stumbled upon in a few occasion was that, in a few rare occasions, she came up with some really non-sense sentences something like "zhfdkjshajhkgfdhgkdjhgkjd can't use these kinks yet"....those random letters at the beginning i don't know where they did come from, just wanted to point you out to this bug, though.

It's cool to hear that you already though about implementing TTS, i can't wait to hear her order me
I am surprised there is not an official or unoffical TTS app for unity in the unity store (i have developed a few little games in the past with it too, so i know a bit how it works). I will give it a look around, maybe i find something you've missed (4 eyes are better than 2 :D)

P.s: i am sending you a rar with all my logs error....which are a ton, like 160....by giving them a look, it appears that basically they are all the same issue, a nullreference exception.

[basim]

I uploaded a new version 0.2.017:

https://mega.nz/file/g95wHKaJ#wA4c4XS94 ... 75SePv7bkA

Can some with the button issue tell me if it's still existing?

It's pretty hard to debug without being able to replicate the problem. I have tried it on three machines low to high end. By using old data and a fresh start. I can't simulate it..

So I'm not sure if it is gone now. I found something that may had cause it, but ...

[basim]

I can definitely see that you put a lot of passion into it, and it definitely shows. I like a lot how playful she is and i have to say that despite a few grammar/vocab errors (i c....

Thanks again for your words & (logfile) feedback!

Yea, I'm not the best at grammar. But I try to sort them out one by one..

You mentioned her to be mercyfull. Yet this wasn't a thing as there was no real "gameplay". But you are right. This exact action can atm be really though. Some will like that, others don't. I'm aware of this and work on such flexibility. Not only on that particular part of story but in generall. Nevertheless it was good that you told me about it. I do put that on my todo list.

The rare bug with those random letters confuses me. Did I was drunken while writing new story parts? I'll have a look..

Sure, go ahead. If you find something interesting for TTS & Unity, hit me up. Although I might schedule it a little futher into the future. As it is not top priority to me for the next month. Atm I'm working on Archive being realtime 3D on the coding side.

Have a nice day,
basim

[Daragorn]

I can definitely see that you put a lot of passion into it, and it definitely shows. I like a lot how playful she is and i have to say that despite a few grammar/vocab errors (i c....

Thanks again for your words & (logfile) feedback!

Yea, I'm not the best at grammar. But I try to sort them out one by one..

You mentioned her to be mercyfull. Yet this wasn't a thing as there was no real "gameplay". But you are right. This exact action can atm be really though. Some will like that, others don't. I'm aware of this and work on such flexibility. Not only on that particular part of story but in generall. Nevertheless it was good that you told me about it. I do put that on my todo list.

The rare bug with those random letters confuses me. Did I was drunken while writing new story parts? I'll have a look..

Sure, go ahead. If you find something interesting for TTS & Unity, hit me up. Although I might schedule it a little futher into the future. As it is not top priority to me for the next month. Atm I'm working on Archive being realtime 3D on the coding side.

Have a nice day,
basim

I am downloading the new version to give it a try and will give you a report soon.

Since i haven't had time to test it fully yet i can't say anything about the amount of content and replaiabilty it currently has but, if i can suggest, i think that having more stuff to do and more interactivity (so basically more gameplay) could be a more important priority than focusing on improving the visuals (which, imho, btw are really really nice already. I really like her model, she is quite sexy and i like her expression...moreover i really like when she poses like she is watching on a tv the images she shows you, that was a really well thought idea!).

Btw, i had a question: what happens if you change the folder she refers to for the images? Could it maybe be the cause of at least some of the bugs? maybe she is looking for a file she previously tagged and can't find it now that you changed the folder?

I started with a tumblr site, cause i thought i could give multiple paths to her, then switched to a folder (with a lot of subfolders).
Have you already tested it and see if it might be the cause of it maybe?

Another thing i noticed (it could be just casual, though, i don't know) is that, now that she has quite a bunch of "categories" of kinks, it seems to block and bug nearly everytime i try to insert another tag on a different image...is there a limit of how many kinks she can have? and maybe changing one of the tags cause her to bug out because of it (since she has to "reshuffle" the tags on the buttons?)

[Daragorn]

I tried the new version and sadly i still had the same issue as before in just a few images. Quitting and restarting doesn't solve it, she tell you she is going to continue where you left but remain stuck with nothing happening. Only way to "fix" it is going back, relaunch and tell her to start over again.

Can you tell me where does she saves the various variables? I wanted to try a "fresh" launch with the new version just in case something is corrupted from the previous versions, i deleted everything and re-downloaded the last version but when i launched her after unzipping, she started exactly where i left, so i assume she saves some progress somewhere, but i couldn't find where.

[markus]

Dito to all what Daragorn described about the so well designed Archive! *thumbs up once again*

Can you tell me where does she saves the various variables? I wanted to try a "fresh" launch with the new version just in case something is corrupted from the previous versions, i deleted everything and re-downloaded the last version but when i launched her after unzipping, she started exactly where i left, so i assume she saves some progress somewhere, but i couldn't find where.

1. Where is the data (progress) of it stored? (I wanted to start completly anew, deleted the folder, unzipped it again, but it remembered my name and such, ... when I want to start it like the very first time, what I have to do/delete?

[...]
Other than that, the gamefiles are stored in:
C:\Users\username\AppData\LocalLow\Naughty Habits

Best greetings,
Markus

[avatarbr]

Hi,

I tested the version 0.2.017, and worked fine for a time.

Then, the no click problem happened. But, I am not sure if is related, this just happened after I moved the text box around with the mouse.

Could be coincidence, but later I will try again and see if not moving the text box the bug don't happen.

[Daragorn]

[...]
Other than that, the gamefiles are stored in:
C:\Users\username\AppData\LocalLow\Naughty Habits

Best greetings,
Markus

Ahh, thx i've missed this :)
I will try tonight when i get home then

[basim]

Since i haven't had time to test it fully yet i can't say anything about the amount of content and replaiabilty it currently has but, if i can suggest, i think that having more stuff to do and more interactivity (so basically more gameplay) could be a more important priority than focus...

Hello again,

you are right. The visual state that she is in atm is nice. The expressions suit and if not, I can easily add an image. And that leaves me with more time to work on story content. Which is badly necessary. Now that I opened up the dynamic session part a lot of content is crucial. So I definitely will put a lot of time into new bits and piece.
On the other hand I don't like to pause development of new features. When my sparetime is rare I'll do, but any other time I work on both. For example the realtime 3D thing is not only a visual overhaul. I'm not doing this because I bellieve this would look better. No, this opens up much more possibilies for content I have in mind. And, if everything is working as planed, it's even faster in creating new poses and expressions. By now I allready have created my own "posing studio" in unity for Archive. That way I can work out new poses and expression without even render them and ex- & import them. And the best thing, you can do this later on by yourself if you want to create your own content.

Anyhow, thank's for this feedback. By thinking and writing about this you changed my priorty to that a bit. Yes, content is the most important thing by now.

Regarding the folder Archive asks you for:
A similar question was ask in the last day or two by kinkyboots. Just have a look above. I answered how this works atm. In addition: This doesn't cause problems. I'm pretty sure about that. When she parses for images (locally or online) she creates an entry for every image. She then stores some information about that image in it. Ofcourse one of this is the path. When you then watch that image with her together and tell here a kink, she adds that kink / tag and will copy this entry into her own media list. So if you change your folder after, the entry in her own list isn't gone.
I did this a dozen times now, but, it's good to have that in mind again. Because this is indeed a possible weakpoint. Some lines in code are not final. Some features of that have still to be done. Maybe some of that unfinished lines cause problems at some point..

And to answer your next question, there is no tag limit for an image. So I'm surprise by your problem of adding multiple tags. But maybe I misunderstand your sentences.
I now read your lines a multiple times.. are you taking about the buttons which let you add a kink for a new image while watching? Is your bug that you can't press a button? What do you mean when saying "change one of the tags"? Did you edit the xml list?

Hi,

I tested the version 0.2.017, and worked fine for a time.

Then, the no click problem happened. But, I am not sure if is related, this just happened after I moved the text box around with the mouse.

Could be coincidence, but later I will try again and see if not moving the text box the bug don't happen.

Yeah, let me know! I'm really curious about that! This can't click the button bug annoys me hard..