I don't know 1885, but having lurked around hear since the introduction of his program I would like for him to know that "competition" isn't a bad thing in the sense that he's created something that has inspired others to want to improve upon it. He's touched quite a few people with his project as evidenced by this thread and that accomplishment is something that shouldn't be discounted. It also was bound to happen because of the limits of his own coding ability. I remember he opened up the code to a few other members here to help with the project but it wasn't a sustainable model for him because he wasn't able to fully understand code that wasn't his own. I don't say that to knock him because I'm in awe of his ability to teach himself to code and then turn that into this project that we are such big fans of. I say that because it left a portion of the community with skills, ability, and a desire to aid in the development unable to do so. So it was only a matter of time before someone said the hell with it i'm just going to make something similar. But there's something to be said about the original, that emotional attachment to something when its first introduced is invaluable and is often time what loyalty is built off of. For me it was like when I first played a Sega Genesis, nothing will ever eclipse that system in my eyes. That C button and the design of the controller has left a permanent mark on me, and so has Tease AI.q55x8x wrote: So the problem I see here is just that 1885 clearly asked for 3 months not 2. And by putting up a competing project now you definitely are doing something against him. Competition now won't bring him back. It will drive him further away from coming back to the community.
I can back this point up by some personal information. Competition might have been starting to drive him away again in the first place. As I PM'd with 1885 around the time of is current disappearance he want to ask my input about a PM he got from a guy "politely" letting him know that he will be doing a competing project.Now lets assume 3 months have passed. I still think we should tackle his disappearance a bit different. From knowing the source of TeaseAI I can clearly back up anyone who would suggest a rewrite. In my opinion 1885 must have been a crazy mastermind in order to be able to even understand his own code, maintain it and debug it. Most of it isn't really that advanced stuff but the sheer mass and lets call it unneeded complexity made it kind of aesthetic on its own.1885 wrote:This message really bothered me, because I have a year of my life's blood in Tease AI and it seemed like he was just up and saying "Heads up, I may start working on something like what you're doing, but works better and will read your scripts"
I think in order to prevent something like a code loss or even a complete program loss we should consider a community rewrite from scratch. We definitely have talented coders in our community who are easily capable of doing this.
Also more coders means less implementation time at least to a certain amount.
And one thing that has always been bothering me. Even if 1885 wont come back for whatever reason. This project is something that really showed some innovation and needed a lot of creativity to create. It is something 1885 beta tested with a lot of users from here and released here. So he clearly trusted this community. And should he leave his project behind we should return that trust by keeping his project alive push it further and shape it as a community. I don't think it is a good Idea for one person alone to maintain and develop it. I think 1885 would have wanted us to do this together.
I've always hoped for 1885 to find a group of people he trusted enough in the community to do a re-write from the ground up and take a lot of the actual coding off of his hands so that he could flex his creativity a bit more for feature development and feel less pressure about the whole thing. As a person who has battled depression, I understand how overwhelming it can be when your ability doesn't match your creativity. You can get so pumped about a series of ideas only to get gutted by your inability to bring them into fruition as quickly as you would like and things just start piling up making you want to shut down. But what I hope for more than anything is that 1885 returns and allows the community touch him how he's touched us.
