After reading the thread about male submission being wrong, which pretty much wore out everything left to say on that topic, I was left with one question:
Is it more "normal" to have sex only in the one sinless position of missionary style to produce babies, or is it more "normal" to engage in your preference of kink to make the act more enjoyable for you and your partner (assuming you have a partner. Or to make the act more pleasurable as you maintain your own domain)???
Yes, that's intended to be somewhat of a loaded question. It's also intended to garner nice, positive responses and hopefully a slew of great jokes! No Trolls, please!
ordered wrote:After reading the thread about male submission being wrong, which pretty much wore out everything left to say on that topic, I was left with one question:
Is it more "normal" to have sex only in the one sinless position of missionary style to produce babies, or is it more "normal" to engage in your preference of kink to make the act more enjoyable for you and your partner (assuming you have a partner. Or to make the act more pleasurable as you maintain your own domain)???
Yes, that's intended to be somewhat of a loaded question. It's also intended to garner nice, positive responses and hopefully a slew of great jokes! No Trolls, please!
If "non-kinky" is having *only* missionary-sex with the intent to procreate, and "kinky" is doing anything else...it's likely that all but the most conservative puritans are kinky. Perhaps we should say that a sex act can only be labeled as kinky if something like a 2/3 majority do not participate?
If "non-kinky" is having *only* missionary-sex with the intent to procreate, and "kinky" is doing anything else...it's likely that all but the most conservative puritans are kinky. Perhaps we should say that a sex act can only be labeled as kinky if something like a 2/3 majority do not participate?
That was kind-of my point. I don't have statistics concerning this, but I would guess most people have something kinky they participate in, making being a bit kinky "normal." What may not be "normal", in the sense that most people don't do such a thing, is a kink involving being the center of a naked transvestite circle jerk while a group of clothed females laughs at all the tiny penises (penii?) (penispalooziums?) (Penelope's pink pussies?)
Anyone else have good names for multiple small penis?
If "non-kinky" is having *only* missionary-sex with the intent to procreate, and "kinky" is doing anything else...it's likely that all but the most conservative puritans are kinky. Perhaps we should say that a sex act can only be labeled as kinky if something like a 2/3 majority do not participate?
That was kind-of my point. I don't have statistics concerning this, but I would guess most people have something kinky they participate in, making being a bit kinky "normal." What may not be "normal", in the sense that most people don't do such a thing, is a kink involving being the center of a naked transvestite circle jerk while a group of clothed females laughs at all the tiny penises (penii?) (penispalooziums?) (Penelope's pink pussies?)
Anyone else have good names for multiple small penis?
"Penises" is the most common plural form, but I think "Penii" and "Penes" are both acceptable as well.
Anyway, "normal" in the sense of how prevalent it is...no, such a thing isn't normal. But if we're asking if it's acceptable; then as I stated in the other topic, we should ask if it's healthy. I have quite a bit to say on that, but I'll keep it short (cue female laughter) for now: as long as no one is breaking the law or getting hurt, exploring one's sexuality is always healthy.
*Brings my soap box to the front of the masses. Climbs upon it and I share my thoughts, although they not be "normal".*
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As I began to think of what I wanted to post here, I looked up two separate definition of the word "normal".
My search produced the following:
First, what I was surprised to learn was that the word "normal", although in certain circumstances can be used as a noun, what is being discussed here, is an adjective. That in itself was interesting to me.
I had always considered "normal" to be a title, a name if you will. You wanted to be considered part of the family of Normal.
Looking at the word as an adjective the two definitions I found were:
1. "according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle, conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern"
2. "conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural"
When I looked at WIKIPEDIA there were choices. I chose to click on the one that described normal as, "conformance to an average".
This was the first line at that link: "In behavior, normal refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average. The phrase "not normal" is often applied in a negative sense (asserting that someone or some situation is improper, sick, etc.)"
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As children, most of us are taught to fit in. We are taught to do things the way every one else is doing them.
First there is breakfast, then lunch, followed by dinner. You eat your main course and then dessert. You wear your "good clothes" for Sunday morning church services.
The list goes on and on and on. A list that someone, somewhere created. ONE person set the "normal" for generations and generations to follow.
It takes one well liked individual to cause a ripple in the water, that can change the "normal" and change what has been dictated to us for years.
Lucille Ball changed what was "normal" when she refused to go on maternity leave and was filmed pregnant.
Now there is a channel that shows a children being born on TV.
Ellen, opened the door of the closet and said, "I don't want my sexuality hidden any longer". And now millions of people, people that never would have considered homosexually to be "normal" are beginning to view it as part of our societies normal. Although I do believe we still have a long way to go, because peoples minds have been corrupted by religious doctrine, instead of God's grace.
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I believe that we as humans need to have a voice, speaking up when we think a way of life needs to be changed. And the greater responsibility as humans, is to listen to those voices. We shouldn't look to our neighbor to see what their response is, but look inside of ourselves and decide if what we heard feels right inside or not.
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I live a life that so many do not see as normal. I have a husband that I have been legally married to for 30 years. I have a non-legal husband that I have been married to for 13 years.
I have two homes, one right next door to the other. We all get along....there are no secrets...we live in peace with an abundance of love.
Add to that, a relationship I am in, with my Master, here online.
Adding.....I enjoy porn, I enjoy sex, I enjoy submitting to another, I enjoy Dominating at times as well.
To society, I am NOT normal. I am seen as not conforming to the standard that someone years and years ago set.
As my son, who is now 15, began to understand that other families didn't have one mom and two men, I was asked, "mom is our family normal?"
As I contemplated my answer I said the following and it stuck with us and has been our response to adults over the years.
"We are a different kind of normal."
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I do not ever want to fit into the mold of "standard". I like be different. It's hard sometimes, I will not deny that, but I would rather be my kind of normal, then what society sees as normal.
I do not believe there is a "normal" way to have sex. If it feels good, for heaven's sake do it, providing of course that it is safe to you, and your partner; everyone involved is consenting; and it does not harm children in any way.
Will handcuffing your partner to the bed, and spanking them until their skin is pink, and they are begging to cum, ever be considered "normal"....who knows? But as long as our leading media source, television, portrays this form of pleasure, as strange and odd, making jokes about it......no.
I have encouraged people, for as long as I have been online, to do one thing....
Live life to it's fullest and enjoy all that life has to offer you.
If you enjoy the "missionary" style, "making babies" position of sex and have no desire to expand beyond that....then enjoy it.
If you want to see what is behind curtain one....then take a breath, reach out and pull it to the side. Then don't just stand there staring at it...walk past the curtain, touch what is there. If it gives you pleasure, smile. If it doesn't, step back and see what is behind curtain two.
*I smile softly, step down from my soapbox....pick it up quietly and move away from the microphone.*
that topic is much more complicated to answer. First of all, you should divide "natural" and "normal".
It's more natural to actually have sex only for childmaking purpose, and thus as it's not an everyday activity - the number of positions and kinks won't be that large. Actually if we'd have sex only to make a child - we'd most likely have no kinks whatsoever. As for positions - human phisique allows more than just one, but actually not so many natural positions.
Then you have a diversification between countries and groups of people. For example in european countries and america it's normal to have sex for fun. It is normal to have sex just for pleasure, it has been so for quite long. It's normal to get a bit creative about it, although some kinks are still considered not normal by most people. While in other countries it's not (due to a religion sometimes or even simply lack of resources and education, like in poorest counties of Africa).
All in all - too many people have creative sex, and at the same time too many ban it. So you can't see an actual norma for the entire humanity. Today it's something like asking "what religion is normal" - there's simply too many people with different opinions. There are a few normas for different regions, I would say.
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After re-reading your posts on this subject, including your most recent ones, I'm a bit confused as to what your actual position on this is. Are you saying outright that kinky sex should not be engaged in, or are you just making a comment about its prevalence?
ordered wrote:Is it more "normal" to have sex only in the one sinless position of missionary style to produce babies, or is it more "normal" to engage in your preference of kink to make the act more enjoyable for you and your partner (assuming you have a partner. Or to make the act more pleasurable as you maintain your own domain)???
1. Define normal...
Then again, that is more or less what you are asking about anyway I guess...
As others have said, if you limit non-kink to "missionary to have babies" only, then being kinky is certainly more "normal", or to use a better word: Common.
Where you have to draw the line in order for kink to become a minority is interesting indeed. In most enlightened parts of the world you should certainly be able to include ANY sex position and any goal of having sex in the "normal" segment.
If you include the communities where religion is allowed to dictate people's lives, whether it be certain parts of the US, Europe or other more easterly parts, then the answer may be totally different. At least officially. What people actually do in the privacy of their homes is another matter.
To me, kink means doing something REALLY out of the norm, as in something only a small minority of the population takes part in. Whether that minority is a fact due to the majority's ignorance or preference is another discussion. I choose to believe the former is sadly the case most of the time.
It's really sad to hear about friends of mine who seem to think sex is about penetration, 3 minutes of pumping and that's all there is. If they enjoy it, good for them, but man are they missing out on what the world has to offer...
PS: Shell.... If you ever want a third husband, legal or otherwise, let me know Your opinions and values are so much a complete reflection of my own that it's outright scary
ordered wrote:Is it more "normal" to have sex only in the one sinless position of missionary style to produce babies, or is it more "normal" to engage in your preference of kink to make the act more enjoyable for you and your partner (assuming you have a partner. Or to make the act more pleasurable as you maintain your own domain)???
1. Define normal...
Then again, that is more or less what you are asking about anyway I guess...
As others have said, if you limit non-kink to "missionary to have babies" only, then being kinky is certainly more "normal", or to use a better word: Common.
Where you have to draw the line in order for kink to become a minority is interesting indeed. In most enlightened parts of the world you should certainly be able to include ANY sex position and any goal of having sex in the "normal" segment.
If you include the communities where religion is allowed to dictate people's lives, whether it be certain parts of the US, Europe or other more easterly parts, then the answer may be totally different. At least officially. What people actually do in the privacy of their homes is another matter.
To me, kink means doing something REALLY out of the norm, as in something only a small minority of the population takes part in. Whether that minority is a fact due to the majority's ignorance or preference is another discussion. I choose to believe the former is sadly the case most of the time.
It's really sad to hear about friends of mine who seem to think sex is about penetration, 3 minutes of pumping and that's all there is. If they enjoy it, good for them, but man are they missing out on what the world has to offer...
PS: Shell.... If you ever want a third husband, legal or otherwise, let me know Your opinions and values are so much a complete reflection of my own that it's outright scary
*blushing and giggling* My goodness....a marriage proposal....and the on the day after my anniversary with Master!!! I'm impressed! *laughing*
I have kept my thoughts to myself because expressing them got Lady X in trouble. But this whole "normal" vs "abnormal" subject....well, I did try and be silent, I did! But then....I found myself on the soap box and unable to hush! *giggling*
It's nice to know that someone shares my view points of life. *bright smile* Thank you.
ordered wrote:Is it more "normal" to have sex only in the one sinless position of missionary style to produce babies, or is it more "normal" to engage in your preference of kink to make the act more enjoyable for you and your partner (assuming you have a partner. Or to make the act more pleasurable as you maintain your own domain)???
1. Define normal...
Then again, that is more or less what you are asking about anyway I guess...
As others have said, if you limit non-kink to "missionary to have babies" only, then being kinky is certainly more "normal", or to use a better word: Common.
Where you have to draw the line in order for kink to become a minority is interesting indeed. In most enlightened parts of the world you should certainly be able to include ANY sex position and any goal of having sex in the "normal" segment.
If you include the communities where religion is allowed to dictate people's lives, whether it be certain parts of the US, Europe or other more easterly parts, then the answer may be totally different. At least officially. What people actually do in the privacy of their homes is another matter.
To me, kink means doing something REALLY out of the norm, as in something only a small minority of the population takes part in. Whether that minority is a fact due to the majority's ignorance or preference is another discussion. I choose to believe the former is sadly the case most of the time.
It's really sad to hear about friends of mine who seem to think sex is about penetration, 3 minutes of pumping and that's all there is. If they enjoy it, good for them, but man are they missing out on what the world has to offer...
PS: Shell.... If you ever want a third husband, legal or otherwise, let me know Your opinions and values are so much a complete reflection of my own that it's outright scary
*blushing and giggling* My goodness....a marriage proposal....and the on the day after my anniversary with Master!!! I'm impressed! *laughing*
I have kept my thoughts to myself because expressing them got Lady X in trouble. But this whole "normal" vs "abnormal" subject....well, I did try and be silent, I did! But then....I found myself on the soap box and unable to hush! *giggling*
It's nice to know that someone shares my view points of life. *bright smile* Thank you.
If you're gonna marry him, you should marry me too!
Shell wrote:
*blushing and giggling* My goodness....a marriage proposal....and the on the day after my anniversary with Master!!! I'm impressed! *laughing*
I have kept my thoughts to myself because expressing them got Lady X in trouble. But this whole "normal" vs "abnormal" subject....well, I did try and be silent, I did! But then....I found myself on the soap box and unable to hush! *giggling*
It's nice to know that someone shares my view points of life. *bright smile* Thank you.
If you're gonna marry him, you should marry me too!
Ya all know I love bondage, but going to jail for too many husbands ain't my idea of being restrained! *lol*
