A discussion with Gemma (Google's offline AI) on morality... and Cock Hero

[Fashion Technique]

Coocle AI is "procreational" cause you must make free new slaves for the elites
And when your child asks you 'why i`m mortal and should to die?' you will have a BSOD

[Chico]

That's a very heavy topic on a site dedicated to wanking

[edger477]

This is interesting but huge post.

The issues bothering you resonate well with me. I used to be hedonist, my marriage used to be boring and without much pleasure and I used to escape from that in a similar vain to yours.

To make a point, I'll try to be short, so I'll skip all the morality stuff, that is very relative and temporary.

I'll just share few points that... are my pereception of reality, so therefore are real for me (since each of our brains creates simulation to be aware of reality and updates it constantly based on the data it receives through our senses). It might be interesting to just get faced with perspective of another human who might have been in similar place. It might also not directly address your points but I think I understand your struggle and want to give you direction to explore.

• You are not only your body, I'd say humans are more mind than body, body is just a portal to consciousness (quoting Donald Hoffman here). For me this is important because I don't consider my existence to be confined to my body, my existence is sum of all interactions I make with everything else. Including this post. Including society I pay taxes in and participate in daily life, so also the planet etc... Yes, one ant is not a colony, but every ant is part of it. By engaging in hedonistic practice you willingly exclude yourself from making waves in fabric of universe, you stop affecting other people and essentially you are choosing to be forgotten. Maybe you can find a way to express yourself while keeping up with this lifestyle but I found it that escaping often allows you to receive enough reward to demotivate you from engaging with other people.
• the procreation does not necessarily mean creation of more portals (humans), you can can procreate your mind/consciousness by creating ideas, art, science, knowledge. If you connect with another human being and you create something together (a work of art, a book, anything that contains imprints from both of your minds). If you do this, then creating children will be trivial and completely natural thing that happens because two of you connected. Just one example of procreation without sex: John Keats. Immortal. Countless. Despite being in a body that had existence no one would want today.
• The hedonistic pleasure, when talking about sexual pleasure, seems to come from pure lust and bodily stimulation. However, there is feeling of euphoria that comes from desire and connection, which is significantly different, it is more bright, pure, and it is directed towards a being, not an object (kinda like a flow of energy through portals above). I have experienced this through playing teasing games with others, and what it creates is fullfiling, is not empty lust, but actual connection, love even, and does not even need to be touching bodies to exist, it can be mind games. It is something definitely worth exploring, and it is not hard to find people who do it (you can start on this site).
• You should first learn to explore yourself and the others. Important aspect of our existence is certainly getting to know ourselves, and others, I think both are done simultaneously when communicating and exploring, hopefully having great time and fun. It is one of most life-changing things I learned through this site, by engaging with another person and creating a shared dream, in it you can share your fantasies and try new things, learning about yourself and discovering parts of yourself that you did not know existed. I am not the person I was only 3 months ago because I discovered I like some types of play that I could not imagine enjoying before, but when you go through certain steps and find another person who has complementary kink, you realize you enjoy it very much. Whole this point is to say - if you learn how to explore, then you are able to start that journey with your real-life partner, you have a lifetime of exploration in front of you, countless new experiences to try, not all will be enjoyed to the same degree, but still all will be fun as long as there is love and consent. And nothing can replace that, the experience of something that is unique, irrepeatable, that you are creating the moment you are experiencing it. And it is totally worth of all the suffering that you will experience because of it!

If I try to summarize all of this... don't give up, it costs only some of your time to engage with people, introduce yourself, you might be surprised what you might find, and how easy is to start exploring. And if you don't like it... well forgot all of this, you won't have fear of missing out. All I am saying, try it, try to not perceive other people as having predefined set of kinks, turn-ons and turn-offs, but as something that evolves, as yours will too, and you can get into new things and move over time and never have stale or boring relationship because there will always be something new to try and check if it is your thing or not.

[edger477]

I have been lurking for quite a while in Milovana, and consider you one of the pillars of this community. Thank you for taking the time to be such a pillar - your scripts are glorious - and thank you for providing a lengthy and thoughtful response to my post. I appreciate it.

Welcome... and thank you, albeit... I consider myself merely a consumer here and my contribution is merely expression of love towards everyone seeking it and tribute to the creators who create amazing content... which my scripts are, that is why there are no scripts for videos I didn't like :)

If I understand the rest of your post correctly, your state of affairs is no longer like that; you found ways - apparently through people you met in this site - but also in real life? - that made your marital life happy again.

Technically... correct... the best kind of correct... Is a bit complicated and after I read the rest of your post I thought maybe is better to leave it at this.

If that's the kind of thing you were alluding to, then... fully on-board with you.

I was actually alluding to both. But when I first read your questions, I made assumptions about your age, status, struggles that... I think are not correct. In a way, we just got closer because I learned more about you, realizing you are more mature person (like me heh), science person (like me heh) and happy one (like me?)... This is a scientific rabbit hole that I don't want to pull anyone into. You seem to be in a good place.

And yet... No, I can definitely make the claim that I have NEVER felt as much pleasure in sex, as I have in my long gooning sessions with my collection of CHs and PMVs; with (even some of yours!) funscripts.

Yes, this was one of reasons for not getting into too much details above... I remember these days, I thought it is glorious.

I'm afraid I lost you there. I thought you were arguing in favor of the kind of long-term sexual relationships - the kind that leads to marriage and procreation. I now get the impression you... don't?

You are referring to the sharing of desire, tease-n-denial that make Milovanians a community? The sharing of kinks?

You are arguing for MY case then

To be honest, I was not arguing for either, because I fail to find anything in life that is black or white, everything is either both black and white at same time, or if you have bad luck then is just boring gray... I was saying that there are other ways to experience pleasure... and life, and those are with someone. It does not need to be biological procreation, and it doesn't even need to be one person forever, all I was saying is that there is something (something as a great deal of pleasure in experiencing it) in love. And I mean love as a medium, (I guess I am biased by concept of love from Dan Simmons's Hyperion Cantos) the one that connects you to others, brings you closer. The love that overcomes misunderstandings and grows through you exploring yourself and other person(s), getting to understand them better and open more of yourself to them, allow them to find in you what you did not know is there, find another you and change you, make you grow. Just like you and me just got a bit closer thanks to communication and open mind.

When I said *exploration*, the last paragraph is an example of it... You talk to someone and you try to figure out what is their perception of reality (because each brain runs its own and we all have common stuff that is like living beings run on sun energy that is transferred into our bodies in carbon atomic links, but there are more private/esoteric models of reality where each of us has its own and exchanging these is a form of love in itself). So exploration of other beings is love in my mind, and I find that mutual activity beautiful. And that also includes physical/sensual exploration, trying to make them experience something they never felt before :)

[fbn02]

That's a very heavy topic on a site dedicated to wanking

not to mention in the wrong sub forum "on video"

i know i have "on video" bookmarked. its easy to forget about the other sections.

[siberian]

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