It's hard to have an HFO

[nana777]

Hi ^^

Since one years i tried to have an HFO (Hands free orgasm) with hypnosis and others. But i didn't have one .
I almost get it but never had.
So I come here to find someone who can give me an advice or a support.

Thank you for your attention ;)

[valdez7]

I enjoy those sorts of hypno recordings and have listened to a number of HFO clips. Not one has ever given me an HFO. So, my main piece of advice is not to stress about it. If you enjoy listening and find the process relaxing and arousing, then keep on listening and enjoying. (When you say HFO, I assume you're ruling out prostate stimulation as well and are looking for an entirely passive experience. I have had a no-hands-on-cock O with prostate play)

If you really really want those HFO hypno clips to succeed, probably the main things you could do would be to cut back on your other orgasms as much as possible, and get yourself pretty worked up before you start listening. For example, for me, if I go about 2 weeks without an orgasm, that puts me at sort of a peak level where everything seems more arousing. So, if I were 100% committed to achieving an HFO, I'd go chaste for 2 weeks and then keep trying the HFO clips until they worked. Have you tried extended denial?

[OrgasmPhantasm]

https://milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=35667

This tease has never failed to help me achieve HFO. I've come back to it many many times and have had an HFO every single time.

Disclaimer: it involves breath play and increasing your arousal by depleting your oxygen. It's safe as long as you don't have a heart or lung condition (or Covid-19!) and as long as you follow the directions. Since no tools or implements are used it's a safe form of breath play (you literally hold your breath on your own).

You need to follow the directions exactly (including tying up your cock and balls firmly). The tease calls for some audio in the background to increase arousal. The best I've found is from r/gonewildaudio and is six girls orgasming, two at a time, one in each ear, for about 30 minutes. This reddit user has more in the same category:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gonewildaudio/ ... _pleasure/

Give it a shot! I'd love to hear if it works for you. I've seriously considered making a tribute to that tease in EOS with some more features. Not sure if there's a market for it or not though.

Also, I second valdez7 on the extended denial. I have had a couple of HFOs from hypno files after having gone 3-4 weeks without orgasm or much stimulation. But not really my cup of tea in most situations.

[throwawayacct]

Yeah...it is. I have an Aneros Progasm, and did every routine, suggestion, tease, trance...everything to try and get a HFO or prostate orgasm. I actually bought 2 Progasms because I started modding the one after also commiserating with other users who were seeing the same frustration. Got real close though, once.

It seems as if the handful of people bellowing their successes are 1 of 3 things: invested in Aneros as a company, are extremely lucky and have easy to trigger Os, or...are full of shit and never had an actual prostate O - they had some fun feelings and declared victory. From some gender and sexuality classes, one could reasonably assume the last part more than the others, because the number of men and women and other out there who are basically out of touch with their body's sexual responses, is astonishing.

So on a whim while recovering from a shoulder injury in which I was given a TENS device to mitigate some soft tissue pain, this curious monkey started putting pads in places...then copper tape on the Progasm...

Hundreds of dollars and a few years later I'm deep into E-stim and can fire off HFOs pretty regularly. So it is possible, but you've got to commit, I suppose...

[Sear_inix]

Well my friend, first of all I think it is quite normal to find an hfo difficult. I have also tried a number of times and although I go very close to orgasm, meaning that I can finish with a handful of strokes, I have never had a complete hfo hypnosis and audio either. But I kinda have had an hfo, I will explain later.

I believe that denying yourself for some time is a prerequisite. How much time you need depends on your arousal levels in general. You need to think what is the closest to an orgasm you have ever felt without direct stimulation, and probably try to relive this experience, use your biggest fetishes for ultimate excitement. And I would say that sometimes trying to have an hfo at a specific moment may not be the best. Try to let yourself free while you are denied to feel all the teasing from a hypnosis, a video or a webtease, let your arousal build without specifically thinking I need to have an hfo when the audio instructs me too or something like that. In that way you will be more relaxed in general and it may even come more naturally at some unexpected moment. This is what I have experienced, after some intense denial while teasing myself by watching erotic material without touching for days, at some point I just felt an ejaculation, my body simply wanted to take all that was building out at last.

Now, when it comes to hypnosis and erotic audio of which I am quite a fan, I think you need to try different types of hypnotists, to see who clicks with your mind better and gets you more aroused. Then concentrate on listening to her a lot, it will magnify the effects of the hypnosis, and hopefully lead to the hfo you want eventually. And if your problem is the lack of free files, I can't promise I have many things, but send a message, I may be able to help you with some.

The tease proposed by my friend OrgasmPhantasm probably works, but for me it is not a proper hfo, since you even begin with an edge and you tie your genitals, which surely creates some stimulation. In my mind for a proper hfo you should be starting from limp, and arriving at orgasm without touching at all down there ( I could even argue that you should also be naked because some friction can be created in your pants ). And all this of course for an hfo without prostate stimulation, after all this is also stimulation of a specific body part, so for me still no proper hands-free. Anyway, I hope I somehow helped, keep trying and I am here if you need something, have fun

[OrgasmPhantasm]

The tease proposed by my friend OrgasmPhantasm probably works, but for me it is not a proper hfo, since you even begin with an edge and you tie your genitals, which surely creates some stimulation. In my mind for a proper hfo you should be starting from limp, and arriving at orgasm without touching at all down there ( I could even argue that you should also be naked because some friction can be created in your pants ). And all this of course for an hfo without prostate stimulation, after all this is also stimulation of a specific body part, so for me still no proper hands-free. Anyway, I hope I somehow helped, keep trying and I am here if you need something, have fun

FYI, the edge at the beginning of the tease happens nearly 20-30 minutes before orgasm. From that time on in the tease there is no physical contact between hands and genitals. If 20 minutes between last stroke and orgasm isn't enough to be "hands free" then whose to say any amount of time is? Masturbated last week? Oh well, you aren't eligible for HFO for another 2 weeks!

I think your definition of HFO is much stricter than most and isn't even technically an HFO. It puts too many restrictions on something that I think is a very subjective experience.

"Hands-Free" literally means... hands free. I.e., you're not using your hands to masturbate to orgasm.

What you're referring to is really a "mental orgasm" or an orgasm without any physical stimulation. It's not the same as an HFO. I would argue that all "mental orgasms" are hand-free, but not all hand-free orgasms are "mental orgasms". I wouldn't conflate the two.

You can achieve HFO through prostate massage, breath play, hypnosis, and even exercise for some.

@nana777 You should start with whatever method of HFO you find works for you. If you truly desire to regularly "mental orgasm" like Sear_inix is talking about, you're probably best off learning to orgasm with less and less stimulation, rather than trying to go cold-turkey. If the tease I linked works for you, it could be a great gateway into HFOs with even less stimulation and possibly mental-Os. Good luck!

[Sear_inix]

FYI, the edge at the beginning of the tease happens nearly 20-30 minutes before orgasm. From that time on in the tease there is no physical contact between hands and genitals. If 20 minutes between last stroke and orgasm isn't enough to be "hands free" then whose to say any amount of time is? Masturbated last week? Oh well, you aren't eligible for HFO for another 2 weeks!

I think your definition of HFO is much stricter than most and isn't even technically an HFO. It puts too many restrictions on something that I think is a very subjective experience.

"Hands-Free" literally means... hands free. I.e., you're not using your hands to masturbate to orgasm.

What you're referring to is really a "mental orgasm" or an orgasm without any physical stimulation. It's not the same as an HFO. I would argue that all "mental orgasms" are hand-free, but not all hand-free orgasms are "mental orgasms". I wouldn't conflate the two.

You can achieve HFO through prostate massage, breath play, hypnosis, and even exercise for some.

@nana777 You should start with whatever method of HFO you find works for you. If you truly desire to regularly "mental orgasm" like Sear_inix is talking about, you're probably best off learning to orgasm with less and less stimulation, rather than trying to go cold-turkey. If the tease I linked works for you, it could be a great gateway into HFOs with even less stimulation and possibly mental-Os. Good luck!

I respect your views about mental orgasm and hfo but I don't believe there is a strict definition somewhere about what an hfo specifically is. Of course it is still an hfo by the definition of being hands-free with the methods you say, but what I said is that it is not a proper hfo, considering as proper hfo what you call mental orgasm, I didn't know it had a name. Probably it is true that you should first try to achieve orgasms with less and less stimulation until you reach a mental one. But from what he said about trying hypnosis, I thought the mental was what he was trying to achieve. Anyway I am not some kind of mental orgasm suprematist, that disregards all other types. If he wants a literal hands-free orgasm he can even try to rub himself somewhere, but I thought he wanted something else.

Oh and and about how many minutes are enough between the last touch and the orgasm, in my opinion if we are going for a mental orgasm, you shouldn't touch from the beginning of the session. Now how you define your beginning is your own decision, no problem for that, generally I would consider the beginning of a tease as the beginning of a session if we are talking about playing here on milovana. If you listen to some hypnosis, no touching from the beginning of the audio. But again this is personal taste, and I just thought it would be nice to share it, that is why after all I say for me all the time in the last comment as well.

[nana777]

Than you for your advices, I gonna try it ;)

[curiouslyreaderza]

https://milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=35667

This tease has never failed to help me achieve HFO. I've come back to it many many times and have had an HFO every single time.

Disclaimer: it involves breath play and increasing your arousal by depleting your oxygen. It's safe as long as you don't have a heart or lung condition (or Covid-19!) and as long as you follow the directions. Since no tools or implements are used it's a safe form of breath play (you literally hold your breath on your own).

You need to follow the directions exactly (including tying up your cock and balls firmly). The tease calls for some audio in the background to increase arousal. The best I've found is from r/gonewildaudio and is six girls orgasming, two at a time, one in each ear, for about 30 minutes. This reddit user has more in the same category:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gonewildaudio/ ... _pleasure/

Give it a shot! I'd love to hear if it works for you. I've seriously considered making a tribute to that tease in EOS with some more features. Not sure if there's a market for it or not though.

Also, I second valdez7 on the extended denial. I have had a couple of HFOs from hypno files after having gone 3-4 weeks without orgasm or much stimulation. But not really my cup of tea in most situations.

I fully agree that tease has never failed to help me achieve HFO either. It is my goto for HFOs. I try to stay handsfree from the start.

[MisterFlames]

I have had trouble achieving a "real" HFO in the past. It's really difficult without tying up your cock/balls and no edging prior to it. But I am able to do it consistently now. After at least 2 days without touching, mind you.

I found out that the keys are your mindset and the right breathing. Breath play has been mentioned already, I personally don't have to hold my breath to hfo though.

You could try to increase the pace of your breathing progressively as you try to come closer to the orgasm.

A high-quality headphone also helps when listening to ASMR or specific music. The "hands free" series by Prince_James on ph uses some kind of white noise + moaning. Might be worth a try.

[blondie88]

https://milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=35667

This tease has never failed to help me achieve HFO. I've come back to it many many times and have had an HFO every single time.

Disclaimer: it involves breath play and increasing your arousal by depleting your oxygen. It's safe as long as you don't have a heart or lung condition (or Covid-19!) and as long as you follow the directions. Since no tools or implements are used it's a safe form of breath play (you literally hold your breath on your own).

You need to follow the directions exactly (including tying up your cock and balls firmly). The tease calls for some audio in the background to increase arousal. The best I've found is from r/gonewildaudio and is six girls orgasming, two at a time, one in each ear, for about 30 minutes. This reddit user has more in the same category:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gonewildaudio/ ... _pleasure/

Give it a shot! I'd love to hear if it works for you. I've seriously considered making a tribute to that tease in EOS with some more features. Not sure if there's a market for it or not though.

Also, I second valdez7 on the extended denial. I have had a couple of HFOs from hypno files after having gone 3-4 weeks without orgasm or much stimulation. But not really my cup of tea in most situations.

I just attempted this tease, but found it a little strange after the edging when it says "inhale for 10 seconds, exhale for 10 seconds" but the timer on the right counts down in only 4 seconds, and is nowhere near 10 seconds for each part. It is almost as though something is wrong with the timing of the tease, as the photos also begin changing very quickly. Is there something I'm doing wrong. The tease gives you literally no time to actually follow its instructions, which surely can't be right...

UPDATE:

So I tried it anyway, despite the slight timing discrepancies and I really enjoyed this, however I felt it was a bit of a missed opportunity.... I didn't cum, mainly because it wasn't long enough, and the picture content didn't really get there for me, but man, if someone made a tease like this but with better visuals, or even video, this tease could be incredible... I haven't seen anything else like this on the internet. Here's hoping someone produces something similar and takes it to the next level

[OrgasmPhantasm]

I just attempted this tease, but found it a little strange after the edging when it says "inhale for 10 seconds, exhale for 10 seconds" but the timer on the right counts down in only 4 seconds, and is nowhere near 10 seconds for each part. It is almost as though something is wrong with the timing of the tease, as the photos also begin changing very quickly. Is there something I'm doing wrong. The tease gives you literally no time to actually follow its instructions, which surely can't be right...

UPDATE:

So I tried it anyway, despite the slight timing discrepancies and I really enjoyed this, however I felt it was a bit of a missed opportunity.... I didn't cum, mainly because it wasn't long enough, and the picture content didn't really get there for me, but man, if someone made a tease like this but with better visuals, or even video, this tease could be incredible... I haven't seen anything else like this on the internet. Here's hoping someone produces something similar and takes it to the next level

I've strongly considered creating an EOS version of this tease. I've never created a tease before but I think it would be possible to add some nice features such as selecting image sets (maybe give 6-8 to choose from and the player gets to choose 3?), customizing difficulty based on experience, maybe even adding the audio component into the tease itself, etc.

I haven't just due to time constraints and the learning curve of EOS. Maybe I'll look back into it; after all, I revisit the original tease several times a year and it works for me every time, even though the pics start to get old after a while. An updated and expanded version would be fantastic to have available.