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Link to the tease: https://milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=41749

So, it's been about a year since I have released my first ever tease, Ultimate Hentai Lottery of Denial. since I had fun making it an people seemed to have enjoyed it as well, I figured I'll make a sequel. Well, after an ungodly amount of work, I'm finally done!

This thing is bigger, better (well, hopefully anyway) and meaner than its prequel:
  • Longer - To be specific this monster is over 40 000 words long and just shy of 215 000 characters. So, yeah, took a while to make it. The entire thing is 265 pages and out of those 203 are rollable, main pages. It should provide enough variety for plenty of runs.
  • New point system - I shamelessly sto... ehrm... borrowed the idea from Brutal Edging Lottery by FootlongSub. Just landing on goddess pages is not enough anymore, now you have enough points to actually have a chance of winning their favor. You can occasionally also spend them on decreasing chastity time or skipping some of the nastier tasks.
  • More customizable experience - There are a lot more optional tasks and pages with multiple options. Additionally now there is a built in cheat system, so that you can reduce the difficulty on tasks you find too hard to do. Of course you might get punished for cheating...
  • More consistent - Unlike the prequel, where you could straight up roll a goddess and gain permission to cum, now getting anywhere with goddesses is a lot more challenging and potentially time consuming. To balance this out there are a lot more chances to cum outside of goddess pages, however, they will no release you from the tease after cumming. There are also pages that will provide significant help if you haven't came for a while, also an attempt to decrease number of outlier sessions. Additionally, there are a lot more modifiers this time around, but they tend to last only for a few pages instead of the entire session. Another attempt at curb-stomping annoying difficulty spikes.
That's about the gist of it. I very much welcome any and all feedback, most of the changes and improvements were based on the feedback I got for the previous iteration. :-)

With that being said, I have no intention to work on an Ultimate Hentai Lottery of Denial 3 anytime soon. At the moment I believe I've pretty much maxed out this format, as I can't think of any major way to fundamentally improve it. Sure, I could make it even longer or meaner, but at that point it'd be just impractical. There is another tease in the works that I have started to work on around the same time as this one. It's just that... well, that one is a very ambitious project. Basically it's a combination of snakes & ladders, teases and DnD of all things. It has an actual main character whose role the player fills in, a simplified character creation (roll for stats and pick a goddess to worship to gain their favor) and, most importantly, every single page is a more or less self contained short story, a lot of them with choose your own adventure type of choices and stat-checks and so on. To put this in context, the 50 pages I have of it ready is about as long as ULHD 2 in total, if not longer. And I planned that to be around 150-ish pages, so... yeah, at best, maybe it's going to be ready around Christmas. At best. (And yeah, I'm intentionally not saying WHICH Christmas :whistle: )
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It's amazing to see a sequal to your original tease! :w00t:

I just had a quick look at it and can't wait to try it out, though I will probably end up playing on weak difficulty again as I am not such a chastity aficionado. :blink: The pages look fantastic and I am really looking forward to challenging myself on the more difficult tasks within this tease! :yes:

Also about shamelessly "borrowing" my points system, you didn't even need to mention that. Your first tease was a big inspiration for me as should be obvious because of the goddess system which I also "borrowed" :-D

Now you are talking about a snl meets dnd tease as well, this keeps getting better! That is definitely something I would LOVE to play as well. Don't stress yourself though, I know how long it takes to create these teases, nonetheless I will keep an eye out for it for sure and stay busy with this tease in the meantime.

Keep up the great work and thank you for another awesome tease! :wave:
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I have been blessed again with another great, wonderful tease. As someone who only mostly does hentai teases, this is a godsend. The amount of effort and dedication you put into this is a lot, superb! Easily one of the best teases I've seen. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Ultimate indeed.
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Damn, not my kind of stuff, but you put so much work in this tease! Really glad there are contributors like this here :) Without a doubt solid 5 rate.

Offtopic question, your nickname Xardas is a reference to Gothic game? :lol:
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Thanks for the shoutout on the first page! :-D
Downloads on the script got a big spike from that. Am glad to help people out with their teasing business ;-)

Looking forward to playing the tease once I find some time for it!
Looks like awesome work though, from a first glance!
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Okay... so first of all......thank you! thank you! thank you! thank you! thank you! thank you! thank you!!!
I have played your first version 6 times so far and was overjoyed to see you publishing a new version! :w00t:

And it is everything you described and so much more!
I love the fact we have more modifiers (or maybe it's just me imagining it) because it makes the whole experience so much more exciting and the replayability looks even higher than the first version!
(Only little downside imo -> because of so many modifiers that last very long or even to the end of the session it sometimes got hard for me to think about every single one and always looking at my text file where I keep track of everything gets the player out of the enjoyment)
Other than that I love every aspect so far.

I'm playing on [Hard] with all Tags enabled.
I just played for close to 2 hours and have 850 points (It's so easy to loose a lot of points on some pages lol)
I got to page 207 and was allowed to have an orgasm. Now it doesn't feel like an end page as it doesn't redirect me to the ending page but it also doesn't tell the player to keep playing or stopping or what do do...
So it would be nice to hear what I need to do at this point :-)

-Page 153 was pretty rough for me but I liked the idea a lot
-Page 17 is a really great idea as well!!
-Page 82 has the potential to make my chastity permanent! Sounds so scary and like a spiral downwards that can quickly escalate...
(there were a lot of other pages I loved but forgot to wrote down to tell you how great they are.)

Despite me playing for almost 2 hours I think I have only seen like 20-30% of all content. That's because there are a lot of clever ideas in this tease again just like in the first version and I'm so glad you did those again! ;-)

Surprisingly I'm very low on chastity days right now (10 days) despite playing for almost 2 hours and also on difficulty [Hard]. Now I do need to know how to proceed from Page 207.
I do still have my time safe that I would use if I have to get in chastity so it will actually be out of my control and I will have to go through with it.

I'm so happy right now that you made a second version and I will play this one (as well as the first one) for many, many times to come!
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Re: FB: Ultimate Hentai Lottery of Denial 2

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So, first of all thanks for all the feedback so far. Gotta admit, all this positivity really gives me incentive to work on more teases. :blush:

Now to answer the actual questions brought up (and I'm sorry that I'm a bit late for some of these):
FootlongSub wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:12 pm Also about shamelessly "borrowing" my points system, you didn't even need to mention that. Your first tease was a big inspiration for me as should be obvious because of the goddess system which I also "borrowed" :-D
Well, I'm glad that my tease proved to be... inspirational. :-D But still credits where credits are due and all that.
eloelo120 wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:22 pm Damn, not my kind of stuff, but you put so much work in this tease! Really glad there are contributors like this here :) Without a doubt solid 5 rate.

Offtopic question, your nickname Xardas is a reference to Gothic game? :lol:
Fetish-wise or because of the hentai? I was actually considering making a remake of both of these with irl images. As in, the teases would be the same, word by word just with irl porn images instead of hentai. Not sure if there's any interest for that though...

And yes, it is. Gothic is among my favorite games of all time, despite it being a very much flawed game (god the amount of times I died because I fell through the ground, respawned way above said ground and then fell to my death). I wish I could play it, but no matter what I try it refuses to start up, so there's that.
BluCFE wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:21 pm Thanks for the shoutout on the first page! :-D
Downloads on the script got a big spike from that. Am glad to help people out with their teasing business ;-)
Happy to hear that! :-) And thanks for making the script in the first place, it so makes these teases so much more convenient.
lala888 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:34 pm (Only little downside imo -> because of so many modifiers that last very long or even to the end of the session it sometimes got hard for me to think about every single one and always looking at my text file where I keep track of everything gets the player out of the enjoyment)
Oh, hey, welcome back! :-) Unfortunately there's not much I can do about that. I went out of my way to make most of the modifiers a limited time / effect thing. And the sheer number of rollable pages should keep them manageable, but they CAN pile up. The only real way to solve that would be making this in the EOS editor or GuidMe or something and code it to keep track of things, but, well, I know absolutely nothing about coding, so that's not really an option.

Page 82 is only permanent if you make it to be. See, the task doesn't say you MUST stroke yourself, just that you MAY. So if you are unsure about your control, you can just sit down on your hands. Would that be frustrating? Oh, hell yes! That's the point! :-P That's why I didn't make a hard limit on that: if you want to make your chastity permanent, who am I to object, but the tease won't force that result. :whistle:

As for page 207: If it isn't a Goddess page, it doesn't release you from the tease. Period. It's merely an oversight that I didn't specifically mention this on the page, will correct that. But even if it DID release you, you would still have to spend your chastity time, I think I specified that on page 2, that unless the page releasing you specifically states that you do NOT have to do your chastity, you have to and only after that are you freed.

As for the low chastity days: well, that's because in the first UHLD I used chastity time for all of the punishments. Problem with this approach is that it can max out the limit quite fast (especially with twice as many pages) after which point adding more chastity is pointless. With the implementation of the point system I could mix them up and as such a lot less pages will give you a lot of chastity and most chastity gain option are punishment for not having X tag active or failing a task. If you have all tags active and tend not to fail a lot, it's actually not that easy to max out your chastity time.

Hard to get points: well, yeah, that's kinda the point. It makes it difficult to even roll for a Goddess page and rolling in no way guarantees actual freedom from the tease. Hence why I added a whole bunch of non-Goddess pages that can allow you to cum in one way or another.

With all of that being said if you (or anyone else for that matter) feels that the point system is too stingy, certain pages are overdoing it, etc., comment about it and I'll take a look.
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Xardas wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:09 pm
eloelo120 wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:22 pm Damn, not my kind of stuff, but you put so much work in this tease! Really glad there are contributors like this here :) Without a doubt solid 5 rate.

Offtopic question, your nickname Xardas is a reference to Gothic game? :lol:
Fetish-wise or because of the hentai? I was actually considering making a remake of both of these with irl images. As in, the teases would be the same, word by word just with irl porn images instead of hentai. Not sure if there's any interest for that though...

And yes, it is. Gothic is among my favorite games of all time, despite it being a very much flawed game (god the amount of times I died because I fell through the ground, respawned way above said ground and then fell to my death). I wish I could play it, but no matter what I try it refuses to start up, so there's that.
Yeah, it's mostly because of hentai pics, since I am not really into it. I also don't really enjoy 'porn games' and rather just go with story-based tease. I still would rather see this tease with irl images, but still wouldn't 100% play it :)
That being said, that's amazing work you've done here.
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Your first tease is among my favorites and this one does not disappoint either. It probably is one of the best teases.

My first session ended with 123 days of chastity. That’s because I landed on page 117 by continuing from 116. I started that page with 0 days of chastity and -145 points and ended up with 120 days chastity and 215 points. Luckily I started the session on moderate.

I ended the session with page 46, which sent me away. I think page 46 needs a condition for failing to do the mantra like starting the next session with a modifier or days without doing it not counting as days in chastity.
All in all the session took 2 days because of page 90 and extra chastity days. I guess I was lucky rolling it before landing on page 117. :-D

I liked the point and level system of the institution in your previous tease. I can't give a real feedback regarding the point system in this tease. So far I like it and I did not have any problems keeping tracks of most statistics.
Xardas wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:09 pm Fetish-wise or because of the hentai? I was actually considering making a remake of both of these with irl images. As in, the teases would be the same, word by word just with irl porn images instead of hentai. Not sure if there's any interest for that though...
I think a lot of people don't like hentai. Having an alternate version with irl images would give the tease the attention it deserves. If both versions have the same content I'd probably switch teases between sessions.

On two pages I found errors:
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Page 116 (you probably mean "nipple on the image”)
“1) Edge once for every visible naked picture on the image. Instead of rolling on, click continue.”

Page 117 (you probably mean “every time you roll 6 again”)
“6) Stroke for one minute at a 20 BPM rate. You may edge, if you do, stop the timer until you can stroke again, then continue. Increase the BPM by 20 every time you roll 5 again.”
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Bloody hell, you've rolled 9 14 times before rolling all other numbers... that's some next level bad RNG. I am almost tempted to figure out the exact likelihood of this happening, the percentage would probably include a lot of 0s after the decimal point. :-D

You are right about page 46, I thought that I had a punishment for it there, but apparently I forgot. Fixed now. Also fixed the mistakes on pages 116 and 117 as well, thanks for pointing them out.
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Xardas wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:11 am Bloody hell, you've rolled 9 14 times before rolling all other numbers... that's some next level bad RNG. I am almost tempted to figure out the exact likelihood of this happening, the percentage would probably include a lot of 0s after the decimal point. :-D
I am not sure if the RNG was that bad. I think others who play the tease will have similar experience with this page. 9 was the most rolled number for me. It is a bit unlucky that 9 is also the number which increases chastity days but at least I didn't start the session on hard or extreme.
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Great tease! Some of the most fun I've had on milovana. I quite like teases which are more like games and less pure teases, and this tease really scratches that itch.

I've played two sessions so far, and they were both rather different. I think the tease is likely very replayable.

My first session was played on standard with cbt + pain, I got some chastity built up from random rolls (p143, p81, p118) which maxed it out at 14 days, and then p135 made me leave. It happened rather quickly - I played around 15 pages. My favorite page was 115, getting myself to edge with super slow strokes was delicous.

I locked myself, ready for two weeks in chastity - unforutantely, due to some pretty severe food poisonining, I let myself out half way through, and then locked myself up to do the other half once I felt better. So I came into the second session not truely at 2 weeks chaste, as I had cum a week earlier.

My second session was played on standard with cbt + pain + dildos, and it was really really drawn out. I got lucky at the start, and I got over 1000 points which you need for most goddess pages within the first 7 pages via p124 and p111. But then I played around for another 35 pages, and I didn't even get to use the points as I didn't even meet a single goddess! Pretty frustrating :)

It didn't help that I landed on the naughty nipples challenge, and shortly thereafter also landed on p149 with all of my points, as well as p179. My dick went through a lot of strokes :D. And because all of the tags were active I also recieved lots of ass/mouth fucking and spanking, so my ass, butt, and dick were all very raw in the end, which was absolutely great! In the end, the session because I ruined an orgasm on p117 after having to edge one too many times there (was up to 5 edges on nr.2 and down to 7 edges on nr. 7). So now I'm again locked up for 2 weeks in chastity :-), which I know I'm going to enjoy!

Just some minor criticism:

1. There are some pages where you can opt between losing points or days of chastity as punishment. The problem is, on a lot of pages it just doesn't make sense (in most cases) to take the days instead of the points. A medicore "point earning" page will likely net you just under 100 points, with some pages that give you way way more. So if the choice is between 5 days of extra chastity, or losing 70 points, like in page 20, why would you ever go for the 70 points? There is a very, very good chance you'll make those points back in the next 3 pages anyways (it's just 70 points after all...), while the extra chastity will stay.

I think a good "exchange rate" is about 100 points per day of extra chastity, and 50 points per day of normal chastity. If page 20 was the choice between losing 500 points or taking those 5 extra days, then you'd have a real dilemma. The choice becomes "do I increase my chances with a goddess by taking on some extra chastity, or do I play it safe and take the long game?" instead of "Oh, well I'll just earn back those points in a couple pages anyways, whatever".

I think the chastity option should *seem* like the better choice! Since the odds are pretty stacked against you to cum, there's a very good chance that those extra points won't actually let you cum anyways, and that you'll get denied - but the chastity will most likely stay and you'll end up locked longer. That's what's so deliciously evil about making the chastity option seem like the better choice.

Anyways, that "exchange rate" is what I play on (house rules!) - so if I get a choice between point loss and chastity, I increase the points loss to match my exchange rate. The pages I noticed this was an issue (imo) are p20, p33, p65, p82, p110, p181

2. A couple typos:

Page 2, Section Cheats, the last 3 cheats, the last sentence "You may also cannot use this more than twice per session. " - you should remove the "may" here. (or write "may only use it up two twice per session")
Page 181, option 5 - "If you have zhid task stacked up multiple times, " should be "this task"

3. I'm not sure to do with the modifier on p15 if I encounter a page which says "Edge, Count how many strokes it takes for you to edge, then that number is how many spanks/ass fucks/some other task dependent on the # of strokes" like on page 65. That's actually a problem I ran into in my second session, I just opted to extend the modifier by a page and allowed myself to edge and do the instructions on that page.



But really, overall, this is one of my favorite teases on milovana, these are pretty minor complaints. I love the pictures you've chosen, I love how gamey the tease is, and I love how it's (probably, it's a bit early for me to 100% tell) so replayable, and how each session can vary. The two sessions I played were pretty different from one another, and I've dry-run def. another 10 sessions while I was locked up and it seems pretty varied to me!

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In fact I love this tease so much, I've spent yesterday afternoon and evening developing a simple GUI application (I'm a developer by trade ;) ) which runs the tease offline. I know GuideMe exists, but I couldn't figure out how to get it to jump to pages and I didn't feel like learning the GuideMe API to code in that sort of button in, when I could just write a dedicated application in the same time which has better ergonomics, since it's very specialized. Here's an example of how it looks like:

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You control which page you go to using the 3 buttons on the lower part of the screen - Roll next page automatically rolls between 4 and 206 for you and gets you that page, Go to page goes to a specific page number (you input the number in the text field right of the button) and continue takes you to the next page like the normal continue button.

Another thing I did was that I replaced most of the images with higher quality versions of the images using google reverse image search - some images went from like 520 x 700 to 2000 x 2500 or so. If the image is too large, then the GUI just scales it fit on your screen automatically. So now, instead of having images taking up roughly 10% of my screen realestate (on my 1440p monitor), they take up close to 25% to 40% in high res, which really makes them seem so much hotter imo.

In a few rare cases, I completely replaced an image with another one if I couldn't find a high resolution variant of the original image - it seemed very weird and distracting to have small images for like 10% of the pages in my testing, when the rest occupied a large portion of the screen. And upscaling was also really terrible. I tried to stay as true as possible to the original image using the different one - for example, I replaced p.36 with another picture of a (hentai) woman enjoying female chastity, and p.30 with another pictue of a woman slightly arroused/suffering from a crotch rope and some bondage.

If you want the full list, I changed the images (and not just higher res versions) in pages 30, 36, 69, 197, 133, 230 (133 and 230 are both different images of the "goddess of mystery" - i.e. drawings by YDIYA), and also in pages 97, 33, and 28 - where the last three changes are actually mostly the same image, it's just maybe the eyes of the "protaganist" are looking somewhere else, or maybe she doesn't have a blindfold on.

The main reason I made this btw is I want to be able to play the tease in five, ten, twenty years from now when milovana just might not exist anymore (The site had a few turbulent years as of late... it might be dying). Still, there are a couple of other benefits: Pages load faster in the app since you don't need to dl them on the fly, going to a new page doesn't require fiddiling with a random number generator, and more optimal use of screen real-estate (imo).

You can download it here: https://gofile.io/d/2OlcBW.

The download includes the source code, and it currently runs on Windows (needs java). You can easily get it to run on Mac/Linux/Any other normal OS. You just need to execute the provided .jar from inside the folder it is in (just google "execute java .jar Mac" if you don't know what I'm talking about, it's really easy). I've tested it on 1440p and 1080p, works well on both. It should adapt to most other resolutions which are at least 720p (GUI is slightly reactive), but I haven't tested it.
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Wow this is the best tease I have ever encountered. As I had ruined on normal difficulty, I started after 14 days of denial and -500 points. Within the first few pages, I landed on page 41 which led me to retry 3 times before I gave up which gave me -9000+ points (yes I cant control my edging well). Next I landed on another page which decreased my points and doubled my negative points, making me reach -21000 points. Later I landed on a page which gave my points a clean slate of 500 points (condition: below zero points becomes 500 points) only to have it reduced to -250 points on the next page (condition: if 500 points of more, reduce to -250 points)

Additionally, I landed on page 117 which made me go to page 116 which led me to play their game till I hit page 118. Not to also mention, having the modifier on page 41 which had me stroking 50 times per nipple, was very difficult for me (It took me at least 2.5 hours to land on 5 pages without nipples).

Then I landed on a page that asked if I liked bondage, leading me to page 30. So of course, I unluckily landed on many bondage pages over this 4 hour session which resulted in my 14 maximum chastity time to become into 114 days maximum time. Furthermore, I kept landing on pages that kept doubling my chastity. Towards the last half hour of my session, I was applying all the edging and stroking cheats (and ignoring some pages) to increase my chastity time on purpose to hit the criteria of the cheat BLANK SLATE.

So when I reached 164 chastity time and landed on a page that forced me to stroke 150 times instead of edging once, if I accidentally edged, my chastity time would double. On the next page my chastity time by 20 to 184 (lucky I landed on this page, if not I would have not been able to use the cheat), I purposely edged on a page which doubled my chastity time to 368. Then I used the cheat BLANK SLATE to reduce my chastity time to zero and I ended my session there with zero chastity after playing for 4+ hours.

So tomorrow I await the playing a new session with a starting chastity time of 7 days and -150 points (since I ended the session on my own). Thank you so much for making such a creative tease.
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This game really exemplifies what a lottery should be. This time the session lasted 30 minutes. I lost 400 points due to page 113 so with -300+ points, I thought I would not be able to orgasm this session. I was right because I had to stroke 375 times. However, I had to edge over 20 times which caused me to leave. So now I am denied for the next 17 days, which would increase my period of no orgasm to 32 days (longest I had ever been locked up)!
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Hey,

sorry to dig up the old thread, but I love the tease, is there any chance we see a version 3?

Today I published a userscript (browser extension), that I wrote for me, to keep track of all the notes and added some utilities. Hope someone else finds it useful. You can use it with Tampermonkey or Violentmonkey
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It automatically rolls a new random page, keeps track of all the stats required and adds some utilities, like random number generator, metronome (with stroke/time counter and pauses for edges). It also blocks the tease between sessions and tells you when you are allowed to start again. The links to the scripts and more documentation can be found here:

Combination of both teases (pages from both teases can be rolled)
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Ultimate Hentai Lottery of Denial 2
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