tommarr wrote:
Could you tell me what's advantages of filehost except *maybe* initial speeds when file is released? I can't find any
I prefer to retrieve a file promptly and I prefer to distribute a file without having to have my computer connected on-line to the internet while sharing. Both of these advantages are clearly in favor of the filehost set-up.
First, retrieving promptly: example, a new CH is released, and either I "have" it instantaneously at Mega because there's a Mega link for it, or I have to download-by-torrent and therefore cannot "have" it until (1) the creator stays on-line long enough to share with the whole swarm to the point that the swarm can seed 100% of it (this has failed, for various reasons, several times, at Milovana, recently); and (2) I stay on-line long enough to GAIN the data on my own computer. Further, getting the file to where I can USE it, on my HOME hard-drive, via torrent as opposed to DL-ing it from my Mega collection, gets no speed advantage from the torrent (I discuss this more, see below).
Second, distributing: example, I have a CH that someone else wants. I give him a Mega link. I'm done! Or, I get on line, I create a torrent, I set up the torrent client to seed the torrent, I wait wait wait for him to get it from me. We must both be on line simultaneously; I must be on-line for EVERY MOMENT that I am sharing a file; and if I am not on-line (like, I have a life, ya know ...) then I am not sharing ANYTHING that I own with ANYBODY.
The advantages of torrents -- distribution of file-sharing across a community ("swarm") of users -- are not always prevalent in a Milovana-style release. If there are only 100, or fewer, leechers who want the file, the likelihood of the torrent dying before adequate seeding starts is a high likelihood.
Your point about download-speed is sometimes true, but it doesn't generally pan out for me. With most torrents, I get the file at an average of, about, 250 Kb/s. That includes the constant ups and downs of the unreliable swarm. If the swarms were bigger, or if the demand and the seedboxing going on for any given individual torrent were higher, then I suspect my download speed would be greater, but the level of overall interest in Milovana releases is inadequate to drive that kind of increased participation. Compare that torrenting 250 Kb/s average, to my filehost, which pretty much has GUARANTEED me 1.4 Mb/s download. Five, almost six times faster, and no variation based on other internet users.
Your point about filehosts just up-and-nuking something, is well taken. I'm always a bit worried that Mega will just say, "Oh, doh! you have to pay us $100 / month just to access your data! What's that, don't want to pay? Well then, BYE BYE COCK HERO COLLECTION." It's a risk I'm willing to take presently, since I'm not going to keep the data on my own home-drive.
Similarly, your point about filehosts' terms-of-service (I assume you mean that, by "tos") is another good point. I have supposedly "accepted" Mega's terms-of-service for all of my six inter-linked free accounts there. But frankly, I didn't read the contract, of course not! And I signed up through anonymous email accounts via Gmail and Yahoo. The whole thing is about three steps removed from the "real" me. I suspect that the FBI or InterPol could, indeed find out my real identity from my Mega activity, if they chose to do so. I do not claim that I am perfectly insulated from them. But I do think that my real self is far enough away from my anonymous internet self, and that I am doing such innocuous things with my internet porn, that I am not really in much risk of that kind of trouble. The terms-of-service at Mega are ... well, meh, who cares? I didn't read the terms-of-service at Milovana either. Usually, both of these sorts of places are happier with active participants than without. If you choose to manage your internet riskiness differently, I can't blame you, and I just say, well, we're making different choices for ourselves. I am definitely NOT peddling (meaning, trying to make money off of things I don't have copyright to); and I'm really pro-actively PREVENTING myself from copying any child-porn, bestiality, or other really disapprovable material. If a cock-hero arrived that was entitled "Cock Hero, barnyard scenes, episode 1, giant horse-dongs" I wouldn't even look at it. There are a few cock-heroes that I have deleted from my collection just because of underage-LOOKING girls in them. And so forth. All of these things are issues. I agree with you about the copyright-infringement issue, but only to some extent, and frankly ALL Milovana releases have SOME sort of copyright issue going along with them. But it's true, as you say, that the manner in which files are "copied" or "cloned" at filehosts is different from what happens on a torrent, and therefore there is a different set of risks.
So my set-up definitely prefers filehosts. That's because (1) I don't want to be connected to the internet all the time, and cannot be so; (2) I don't want to keep the porn files on my own hard drives in my possession, because (a) I use all my computers and storage spaces for other less ... questionable ... uses and (b) it would be too much to try to keep it all at home, since I have about 320 Gb of cock-hero style files that I want to keep access to, which adds up to three, maybe four external USB-connected 1-Tb hard-drives, at $75 apiece, which is just way more than I want to try to arrange at my house. I keep my "permanent" collection on filehosts, and if there's a file or two or six I want to look at, I DL them from the filehost to my hard-drive, watch to my heart's content, then delete and wipe traces. Often, I am watching one, DL-ing another, and deleting a third, all in rapid succession, so the on-hard-drive collection is a constantly rotating sub-set of the on-filehost permanent collection. This is, of course, more bandwidth usage than most people want to engage in. I agree. It's a micro-management that I undertake in order to keep my on-hard-drive collection at home to a minimum. I would do the same whether or not I got the files via torrent or filehost. Further, because (3) sharing with filehosts is accomplished with more onus on the taker than on the giver, in a general metaphorical sense, I can alleviate my concerns (1, 2a, 2b) above by simply publishing Mega links. I think it works best for small-scale things like the Milovana community and the types of releases we're talking about here -- cock-hero videos, made BY us FOR us.
Indeed, cock-hero is growing. As it becomes a "mainstream" thing, the utility of filesharing and the various characteristics of its advantages (to me) will change. I already see that at private torrent trackers (for example, Empornium), when I fetch a new cock-hero video, I get it VERY FAST because the swarm at a place like that is more responsible. But the public torrents which start their lives here at Milovana are not so reliable.
markus wrote:
book_guy wrote:Aside from the risk of Mega deleting material, can you explain (again? maybe I missed it) any other advantage(s) of torrents? I don't really get it ... sorry, I think it's implied in this thread, but if I could get the explicit statement maybe it would get past my rather resistant pre-frontal cortex and into my cognitive medulla ...

You have phrased your answer/question a little bit provocative, and you are aware of it! (Gotcha!

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No, I did not mean to be provocative. That's why I included so much extra about how stupid I am on the subject. I was being sarcastic, of course, but did not intend to troll for a fight. Your concerns about a fight between torrenters and filehosters breaking out, is well taken. I'm happy to share info but I do not want a trolling flame war!
Thanks to all for hearing me out!