Can someone enlighten me please, why torrents?

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Re: Can someone enlighten me please, why torrents?

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book_guy wrote:
tommarr wrote:here is working solution which is torrents

Mega is okish. However I've seen them deleting material
Aside from the risk of Mega deleting material, can you explain (again? maybe I missed it) any other advantage(s) of torrents? I don't really get it ... sorry, I think it's implied in this thread, but if I could get the explicit statement maybe it would get past my rather resistant pre-frontal cortex and into my cognitive medulla ... :-/
Could you tell me what's advantages of filehost except *maybe* initial speeds when file is released? I can't find any
pixelwhore wrote: For less popular files, it's nice to have them on a Mega in case they aren't seeded. If it's been a while for you, Mega's interface has gotten a lot easier to deal with. Just clone it over to your own account files and then download. Sure, you have to make an account. Sure it has more steps. But it's a great second option for unseeded files.
This means you have to accept mega tos when creating account. Also if you are "cloning" files under your own account you are risking having copyrighted material under your account which can be linked to you. Nope, not gonna happen
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Re: Can someone enlighten me please, why torrents?

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First of all, PLEASE don't let this thread become a 'fight' between those people who like filehosters or torrents more.

(That was a little bit of a fear I had when I started this thread, ... so please, (@everyone!!!) ... just be that tolerant to accept that everyone has different perceptions when it comes to, ... well, whatever ;-) , in this case using different software and resources to download from!)
tommarr wrote: Tried jdownloader in the past, it was very cumbersome and buggy.
I just can say that my personal experience with JDownloader (1&2) is different from your experience with it.
For me it works like a charm since I started to use it, which is a long time ago, I use it for many years now.

pixelwhore wrote:Just clone it over to your own account files and then download. Sure, you have to make an account. Sure it has more steps.
This would be the way it is asked of you when you download from bookguys collection of CHC videos, but that is not necessary in other cases.
Usually when I see a mega-download link, and want to download it, these are the steps I do:
- Start JDownloader (with activated Link-Grabber)
- Rightclick on the mega-download link and choose 'copy link' from the context-menu
- Start the download in Jdownloader

... thats all, there is no import-to-your-account needed, you don't need to have a account on mega, and working with JDownloader you even don't have to open that link to mega in your browser.

book_guy wrote: Aside from the risk of Mega deleting material, can you explain (again? maybe I missed it) any other advantage(s) of torrents?
I don't really get it ... sorry, I think it's implied in this thread, but if I could get the explicit statement maybe it would get past my rather resistant pre-frontal cortex and into my cognitive medulla ... :-/
You have phrased your answer/question a little bit provocative, and you are aware of it! (Gotcha! :-P )

See, I personally prefer filehosters, especially mega, and until now no post 'enlighted' me that much that I would start using torrents, but this thread is NOT meant to convince users to use this or that, I just wanted to hear experiences, thoughts and pros and cons.

tommarr wrote: Mega is okish. However I've seen them deleting material

Every other filehost sucks :unsure:
If you mean by 'it sucks' the download speed, then yes, I totally agree with you! :wave:
But nevertheless it's a fact that I download porn for many years from filehosters, it's slow, but it works. :closedeyes:


Anyway, please keep this a nice and respectful discussion, everyone likes or prefer different things, so just let us all respect other opinions and preferences. :love:

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Re: Can someone enlighten me please, why torrents?

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markus wrote: - Start JDownloader (with activated Link-Grabber)
I don't like installing extra crud.
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Re: Can someone enlighten me please, why torrents?

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tommarr wrote: Could you tell me what's advantages of filehost except *maybe* initial speeds when file is released? I can't find any
I prefer to retrieve a file promptly and I prefer to distribute a file without having to have my computer connected on-line to the internet while sharing. Both of these advantages are clearly in favor of the filehost set-up.

First, retrieving promptly: example, a new CH is released, and either I "have" it instantaneously at Mega because there's a Mega link for it, or I have to download-by-torrent and therefore cannot "have" it until (1) the creator stays on-line long enough to share with the whole swarm to the point that the swarm can seed 100% of it (this has failed, for various reasons, several times, at Milovana, recently); and (2) I stay on-line long enough to GAIN the data on my own computer. Further, getting the file to where I can USE it, on my HOME hard-drive, via torrent as opposed to DL-ing it from my Mega collection, gets no speed advantage from the torrent (I discuss this more, see below).

Second, distributing: example, I have a CH that someone else wants. I give him a Mega link. I'm done! Or, I get on line, I create a torrent, I set up the torrent client to seed the torrent, I wait wait wait for him to get it from me. We must both be on line simultaneously; I must be on-line for EVERY MOMENT that I am sharing a file; and if I am not on-line (like, I have a life, ya know ...) then I am not sharing ANYTHING that I own with ANYBODY.

The advantages of torrents -- distribution of file-sharing across a community ("swarm") of users -- are not always prevalent in a Milovana-style release. If there are only 100, or fewer, leechers who want the file, the likelihood of the torrent dying before adequate seeding starts is a high likelihood.

Your point about download-speed is sometimes true, but it doesn't generally pan out for me. With most torrents, I get the file at an average of, about, 250 Kb/s. That includes the constant ups and downs of the unreliable swarm. If the swarms were bigger, or if the demand and the seedboxing going on for any given individual torrent were higher, then I suspect my download speed would be greater, but the level of overall interest in Milovana releases is inadequate to drive that kind of increased participation. Compare that torrenting 250 Kb/s average, to my filehost, which pretty much has GUARANTEED me 1.4 Mb/s download. Five, almost six times faster, and no variation based on other internet users.

Your point about filehosts just up-and-nuking something, is well taken. I'm always a bit worried that Mega will just say, "Oh, doh! you have to pay us $100 / month just to access your data! What's that, don't want to pay? Well then, BYE BYE COCK HERO COLLECTION." It's a risk I'm willing to take presently, since I'm not going to keep the data on my own home-drive.

Similarly, your point about filehosts' terms-of-service (I assume you mean that, by "tos") is another good point. I have supposedly "accepted" Mega's terms-of-service for all of my six inter-linked free accounts there. But frankly, I didn't read the contract, of course not! And I signed up through anonymous email accounts via Gmail and Yahoo. The whole thing is about three steps removed from the "real" me. I suspect that the FBI or InterPol could, indeed find out my real identity from my Mega activity, if they chose to do so. I do not claim that I am perfectly insulated from them. But I do think that my real self is far enough away from my anonymous internet self, and that I am doing such innocuous things with my internet porn, that I am not really in much risk of that kind of trouble. The terms-of-service at Mega are ... well, meh, who cares? I didn't read the terms-of-service at Milovana either. Usually, both of these sorts of places are happier with active participants than without. If you choose to manage your internet riskiness differently, I can't blame you, and I just say, well, we're making different choices for ourselves. I am definitely NOT peddling (meaning, trying to make money off of things I don't have copyright to); and I'm really pro-actively PREVENTING myself from copying any child-porn, bestiality, or other really disapprovable material. If a cock-hero arrived that was entitled "Cock Hero, barnyard scenes, episode 1, giant horse-dongs" I wouldn't even look at it. There are a few cock-heroes that I have deleted from my collection just because of underage-LOOKING girls in them. And so forth. All of these things are issues. I agree with you about the copyright-infringement issue, but only to some extent, and frankly ALL Milovana releases have SOME sort of copyright issue going along with them. But it's true, as you say, that the manner in which files are "copied" or "cloned" at filehosts is different from what happens on a torrent, and therefore there is a different set of risks.

So my set-up definitely prefers filehosts. That's because (1) I don't want to be connected to the internet all the time, and cannot be so; (2) I don't want to keep the porn files on my own hard drives in my possession, because (a) I use all my computers and storage spaces for other less ... questionable ... uses and (b) it would be too much to try to keep it all at home, since I have about 320 Gb of cock-hero style files that I want to keep access to, which adds up to three, maybe four external USB-connected 1-Tb hard-drives, at $75 apiece, which is just way more than I want to try to arrange at my house. I keep my "permanent" collection on filehosts, and if there's a file or two or six I want to look at, I DL them from the filehost to my hard-drive, watch to my heart's content, then delete and wipe traces. Often, I am watching one, DL-ing another, and deleting a third, all in rapid succession, so the on-hard-drive collection is a constantly rotating sub-set of the on-filehost permanent collection. This is, of course, more bandwidth usage than most people want to engage in. I agree. It's a micro-management that I undertake in order to keep my on-hard-drive collection at home to a minimum. I would do the same whether or not I got the files via torrent or filehost. Further, because (3) sharing with filehosts is accomplished with more onus on the taker than on the giver, in a general metaphorical sense, I can alleviate my concerns (1, 2a, 2b) above by simply publishing Mega links. I think it works best for small-scale things like the Milovana community and the types of releases we're talking about here -- cock-hero videos, made BY us FOR us.

Indeed, cock-hero is growing. As it becomes a "mainstream" thing, the utility of filesharing and the various characteristics of its advantages (to me) will change. I already see that at private torrent trackers (for example, Empornium), when I fetch a new cock-hero video, I get it VERY FAST because the swarm at a place like that is more responsible. But the public torrents which start their lives here at Milovana are not so reliable.
markus wrote:
book_guy wrote:Aside from the risk of Mega deleting material, can you explain (again? maybe I missed it) any other advantage(s) of torrents? I don't really get it ... sorry, I think it's implied in this thread, but if I could get the explicit statement maybe it would get past my rather resistant pre-frontal cortex and into my cognitive medulla ... :-/
You have phrased your answer/question a little bit provocative, and you are aware of it! (Gotcha! :-P )
No, I did not mean to be provocative. That's why I included so much extra about how stupid I am on the subject. I was being sarcastic, of course, but did not intend to troll for a fight. Your concerns about a fight between torrenters and filehosters breaking out, is well taken. I'm happy to share info but I do not want a trolling flame war!

Thanks to all for hearing me out!
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Re: Can someone enlighten me please, why torrents?

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i cannot see that either technical approach is clearly superior, as some have attempted to state; it clearly, rather, seems to depend on the priorities and tastes of the user; my priorities are similar to book_guy's and i find torrents comparatively annoying, but i understand how torrents suit others

all that said, the idea that "it only takes someone seeding a torrent to be superior to a file host" doesn't quite make sense; similarly, one can say "it only takes someone assuring files are uploaded to a file host" to accomplish the same end as re the torrent, if one ends it there

however, it is a fair and true point copyrighted materials are more "durable" (more likely available long-term if popular) as well as may attract more direct undue attention, than via filehosts, as a generalization
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