Why are ruined orgasms just so pleasurable?

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Re: Why are ruined orgasms just so pleasurable?

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mbop wrote:
pete_ger wrote:(sidenote: If i stop stroking at the first sign of cum, it's actually a pretty pleasurable orgasm, I'd give it a 7, if 10 would be a full orgasm.)
I wonder how variable this is. Although I love teasing I never really put the denial part into practice in my personal life. Whenever I've not quite "finished things off" completely around the point when he begins to shoot my partner is not very happy at all, even if it's only for a couple moments. I learned that pretty early on as a teenager that it seems to apply to most guys. I've never had them rate it, but I imagine it'd be a lot less than 7. Then again, your view (and other guys here) is probably a lot different because you like to do ruined ones anyway.
First of all I don't like ruined orgasms! I've never given myself one when I'm alone masturbating. But I like the concept in a D/S Relationship, because then she can enjoy my frustration and it makes me feel more submissive towards her.

Secondly I admit I was throwing around alot of numbers. Forget that 7 out of 10 and look at my second post. The 7 would refer to a 4 and the 10 to the 5. I wasn't taking into account the different kind of full orgasms, which is kind of important. Let me explain:

Lets say I'm wanking off for a quick orgasm, and I stop when I start to cum. I get a 4 on my scale, which is the best kind of ruined orgasm. If I didn't stop I get a 5 and a nice common orgasm. But lets say I'm having great sex, and she already had several orgasms while I had to hold back. And then she strokes me over the edge, whispering into my ear: "you can cum boy!" but pulls her hand away the moment I start to cum. It's still an instense 4 then, somewhat pleasurable. BUT it could have been a 9, a frigging big explosion of orgasm.

While I find the pleasure during a level 4 ruined orgasm the same, the frustration is highly dependend on the kind of full orgasm you didn't get. So yeah in the second scenario I wouldn't be happy at all, and frustrated out of my mind. In the first one, well yeah, not too much loss.

Hope that clears things up from my point of view.
mbop wrote: I see some guys talk about PC muscles or breathing the correct way, which I'm sure is the main point, but when a guy cums it also seems like his testes are doing quite a number too. The balls jump around and dance enthusiastically, and sometimes the entire sac moves up next to the body and flexes rhythmically. I'm assuming this is beyond conscious control, but I really don't know how that works out during a ruined/semi-ruined orgasm. Does that happen anyway? Or is it important to make sure they don't twitch too much as well?
I don't know actually, and it would be weird if I called up my ex asking for that. I just know when I feel my muscles contracting and my cum spurts out, it feels good. The more I relax, the more the cum flows out. And the flow is frustrating. Never watched my balls during a flow though, I mostly have my eyes closed and concentrate heavily on my breathing.
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Re: Why are ruined orgasms just so pleasurable?

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Based on a possibly flawed assumption that we experience edges, ruined and full orgasms more or less the same, I would say that those who feel they get much pleasure from a ruined orgasm are simply stopping too late. Stop earlier. Ok, so some times you will not go over at all and just strain like mad for a good number of seconds instead, but that's all part of it.

For me, the definition of a ruined is simply ejaculation without FEEL. Whether you ooze or spurt is technically beside the point, it is possible to do both without any orgasmic feeling at all.
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Re: Why are ruined orgasms just so pleasurable?

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Snare wrote:Yeah I kind of have this problem too. But I get so sensitive when I orgasm that I pretty much have to stop or it will drive me nuts. When I found out about ruined orgasms though, I realized that was what I was doing the entire time. Now I have full orgasms but they don't pleasure me as much as a good ruined one.

Oh really.... Am sure you were about to tell me this werent you?? :-O So ruining inside of me is actually pleasurable for you! Funny wasnt how it looked to me, but am sure we can change that....

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Re: Why are ruined orgasms just so pleasurable?

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Weird, after months away from Milovana (I've always lurked, hence my newbie post count), I come back and there are a couple posts that relate to recent experiences of mine. I've experienced "ruined" orgasms a bit in the past--the kind where you stroke to that first pulse, then let go. My cock continues to pulse, so there's some pleasure, but not as much as with continued stimulation. Well, lately, I've been enjoying some "series teases", where I have to stroke and edge and stroke and edge etc, but I'm not allowed full relief until completing several teases (over the course of a few days). Well, while enduring one of these teases recently, during an edge, where I knew orgasm wasn't yet allowed, I accidentally managed to go just a touch too far. I took my hand off, and, well, I honestly can't remember if there were PC contractions or not to hold it back, but after a few seconds, a small load just oozed out--no pulsing, no pleasure, just a load of cum. In my mind, I decided I'd finally achieved the true, pure ruined orgasm--look, there's your load, but you had no fun releasing it.

I don't know if this is helpful or not, since I can't really give good advice on how to achieve it, but I think it's like this: full orgasm (oh, yeah!) > semi-ruined (little spurt, little pleasure) >> full ruined (haha, look, there's your cum).
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Re: Why are ruined orgasms just so pleasurable?

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Show_steve wrote:I don't know if this is helpful or not, since I can't really give good advice on how to achieve it, but I think it's like this: full orgasm (oh, yeah!) > semi-ruined (little spurt, little pleasure) >> full ruined (haha, look, there's your cum).
Yeah for me a fully ruined orgasm is the kind where your cum just slowly drips out without any pressure or contractions. PC muscle training can help you with this too. You almost don't feel anything at all with this technique, except your urgent need to cum briefly fades away.
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Re: Why are ruined orgasms just so pleasurable?

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Well, ruined orgasms for me (as a chick) sort of help and hurt when I'm in denial. When I begin to feel the initiation of contractions and remove the stimulation... It's sort of like a slap to the face. It's nice because I get half of the orgasm... But it sucks because I get even more turned on!
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