Indigo

[Human]

How can this happen to a guy in his 20s?? Are you morbidly obese or something?

Assuming that I'm overweight simply because I have a glucose imbalance is horribly insensitive, both to myself, and to people out there that may genuinely have a weight issue. There's a lot of folks that feel bad enough about it, without someone so callously mentioning it without consideration for others.

Technically, I did not assume, I asked if you were..


Sigh. A 450 glucose level in not conducive to pussyfooting around. As you mentioned, it is very very very serious. Life threatening.

As for treatment, they have to figure out what the cause is, first. And the major concern is getting my glucose levels down before I develop ketoacidosis, which can be life-threatening. Having glucose numbers in the 400-450 range is waaaaaay more dangerous than I initially realized. So, short answer, no, they're treating symptoms first.

Was your 450 level after a meal? What time of day?

[les]

Yeah, spiked about 45 minutes after I ate, stayed there for about an hour and a half.

Edit: just checked it, number's at 195. Last day or so has been ranging from 190-235.

That's still high but way better than double that.

I have found that diet changes take a while to stabilise, as the body compensates for the changes before settling down.
Remember complex carbos are better for you than simple ones.
And processed ones are faster absorbed and kick the glucose levels high faster.

I have trouble with your figures as you guys use a method that shows 18 times the value we do .
My levels are normally around 6 or 7 mmol/L, 108 to126 mg/dL. I now only test if I feel like it.
or at a review with doctor/nurse.
Just taken and shows 6.9
What are your long term values the ones shown by a path lab blood test?, mine are 5.8 mmol/L, 104.4 mg/dL.

[les]

Are they treating the cause of your illness? I got the impression the meds were just treating the symptoms..

Basically they can only treat the symptoms the cause can be alleviated by diet and if caught early enough be kept under control by diet and tablets.
I take metformin, which boost the production of insulin and help the body make better use of it.

The diet I have to follow is the same one you guys are advised to take anyway, with a few mods.
               Simplest way is no take aways or eat out.
As I scratch cook I eat very well enjoying culinary delights from around the world, even hamburgers, or chilli.

[Human]

Basically they can only treat the symptoms the cause can be alleviated by diet and if caught early enough be kept under control by diet and tablets.
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Les, that is for "normal" diabetes; with Indy something else is going on that is disrupting insuliin production.

A completely wild uninformed guess is that his brain is not getting a proper blood supply due to a clot/tumor; and his body is trying to compensate by increasing BP and blood sugar to get the fuel in.

Another option is infection as Indy said.

[Human]

Already had the MRI for possible clots/tumors,

I should have been a doctor

and nothing doing. I *do* have a severe upper respiratory infection that I haven't been able to get rid of. They're thinking that's not helping matters, but the odds are, my pancreas just isn't doing what it's supposed to. Being adopted, I have no clue what my family history is, so I'm kinda feeling my way thru this.

Also, found out I have a *cough* minor allergy to almonds. Found that out the hard way ...

Indy, I assume they tested you when you had the surgery last year...and blood sugar was normal then?

[les]

As it appears my personal real life experiences are no match for humans knowledge.
I will stop posting Indy.

[AngelAnna837]

Basically they can only treat the symptoms the cause can be alleviated by diet and if caught early enough be kept under control by diet and tablets.
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Les, that is for "normal" diabetes; with Indy something else is going on that is disrupting insuliin production.

A completely wild uninformed guess is that his brain is not getting a proper blood supply due to a clot/tumor; and his body is trying to compensate by increasing BP and blood sugar to get the fuel in.

Another option is infection as Indy said.

[les]

Actually Les, I'd rather get your input. If you don't mind, of course.

In that case I will continue
U/Les is always at you call.

[MistressD]

Actually Les, I'd rather get your input. If you don't mind, of course.

In that case I will continue
U/Les is always at you call.

What everyone needs to remember is that there isn't a single cause for something like this. So the treatments may be consistent from case to case, but that doesn't mean the cause is the same (or even related).

Indy needs to work with his Doctors first and foremost - but I suspect that it is helpful or encouraging to hear that other people are dealing with comparable issues.

So hang in there Indy - let them poke you and prod you until they figure out the problem. You could just close your eyes and imagine it's Anna doing the poking and prodding if that helps...

[Sonic415]

Wishing you the best of luck on recovering and starting to go back the right way in your life for you indy.

I think dis spite the effects such information has on each of us, it also highlights out how little we appreciate what we have in life. We all have different issues in our lives. Whether they are big or small, and and do our best to move to days where we don't have them.

So maybe on top of getting better, we should be thankful for everything we have, and live every day too it's fullest.

Get well soon Indy

[les]

While a lot I have said has been geared towards diabetes,
My mother had it so mine is hereditary.
And so I have more experience of its nuances than most.
and the way things and thoughts have changed.

Most "So Called Facts" are recited by rote with out checking.


I defy any one who can, to find a doctor who says that is inherently wrong to to eat and behave in my way.

Except in some extreme circumstances.

It a generic "Good Healthy Diet".

Exercise is a whole new ball game.

[Human]

Indy, I assume they tested you when you had the surgery last year...and blood sugar was normal then?

[Human]

Ask yourself ... "Would they put a person thru surgery with ultra-high glucose levels?"

Not normal does not necessarily mean ultra-high....

[les]

1st I would tell Anna to stop using the barbed wire Cat o' Nine tails.

Seriously double check which meds are;
Time dependent
Food dependent
Circumstances dependent.

I have some pills which have to be separated by at least 4-6 hours.

So I would suggest a chat with pharmacist as he knows more about drugs than most docs do.
Also you don't need to book an appointment.
He may then suggest a timetable change in regime or a return to Doc for a pill change.

I have had circumstances where it can take a couple of months for the meds to take effect and the body stabilize/ise.

Conclusion,
GO SEE SOMEONE WHOSE DAY JOB IS MEDICATION.

Good luck Indy

[AngelAnna837]

1st I would tell Anna to stop using the barbed wire Cat o' Nine tails.


Good luck Indy