To resist you, all a guy needs is perspective. Your judgement of your allure power suffers from sample bias.SophiaStafford wrote: By far though, the largest class of males who are immune to me are men who are genuinely in love with their wife or girlfriend. To resist me, all you really need is to love anyone or anything more than you love me and being my victim.
Turns out love is very rare in the world.
S
ToxicTreat: Call for participants for a 'project'
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chuckles at the speculations.
it seems that Sophie must be stopped just in case ???????
Or is
"I don't want any part and I want to stop everybody else."
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Re: ToxicTreat: Call for participants for a 'project'
@Incubo
Oh come on. I currently want nothing to do with the whole humiliation thing and even I can see that this argument is full of crap.
All she was saying was that, when it gets right down to it, if you love something (not /necessarily/ a wife/gf/etc) more than you think you love her, then you're immune to any sort of charm. This isn't just true with her, this is true with any and all things - ESPECIALLY if those things are women. If I love swiss cheese more than pepper jack, I'll choose swiss cheese. If I love mountainbiking more than swimming, I'll go mountainbiking. That's all she was talking about. Stop pretending like you don't understand.
Additionally, so many teases on this site have so many subtle hints of things of Sophia's nature/style/whatever you wanna call it, yet when someone real finally does pop out and reflect those hints, suddenly people start screeching about how it's unfair. Go through this site, back from day one, and look at how many teases have strong implications about things /far/ worse than what Sophia does.
But because it's actually her doing it, and not a webtease, she's suddenly the bad guy?
And, once again, before you say anything - I'm not one of her playthings/servants/whatever, just a dude who hates hypocrisy.
Oh come on. I currently want nothing to do with the whole humiliation thing and even I can see that this argument is full of crap.
All she was saying was that, when it gets right down to it, if you love something (not /necessarily/ a wife/gf/etc) more than you think you love her, then you're immune to any sort of charm. This isn't just true with her, this is true with any and all things - ESPECIALLY if those things are women. If I love swiss cheese more than pepper jack, I'll choose swiss cheese. If I love mountainbiking more than swimming, I'll go mountainbiking. That's all she was talking about. Stop pretending like you don't understand.
Additionally, so many teases on this site have so many subtle hints of things of Sophia's nature/style/whatever you wanna call it, yet when someone real finally does pop out and reflect those hints, suddenly people start screeching about how it's unfair. Go through this site, back from day one, and look at how many teases have strong implications about things /far/ worse than what Sophia does.
But because it's actually her doing it, and not a webtease, she's suddenly the bad guy?
And, once again, before you say anything - I'm not one of her playthings/servants/whatever, just a dude who hates hypocrisy.
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What argument?subtrev wrote:@Incubo
Oh come on. I currently want nothing to do with the whole humiliation thing and even I can see that this argument is full of crap.
I've made no argument.

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trev has correctly interpreted this for you-- even a neonazi might be immune if he truly loved Nazism enough. I haven't met any that love their fuhrer more than they love me, but I'm sure they must be out there somewhere.SophiaStafford wrote:SophiaStafford wrote: I know about males who are 100% gay, I've met males who genuinely 100% devoid of any desire akin to sexuality. By far though, the largest class of males who are immune to me are men who are genuinely in love with their wife or girlfriend. To resist me, all you really need is to love anyone or anything more than you love me and being my victim.Incubo wrote: Hmm...so let me see if I've got this right. Any man who doesn't lust after you with complete reckless abandon must be one of the following:
1. Gay
2. Medically or psychologically frigid
3. Sick
4. Scared
5. In love with someone else.
Have I got that right?
I just want to make a very important clarification though. If you want to be truly immune to my games, it's not enough to merely "be gay". You must be "100% Gay". That is, practically everyone is, in fact, bisexual to some degree. And if you're bi, even in theory, it's often fairly simple for me to make you extremely bi.
Many of my favorite experiences have been with males who identified as gay when we first met.
.
Just to clarify though, it does NOT work the other way around. You can enflame existing desires, but you can't really 'extinguish' established sexual desire-- e.g. if you like people of the same sex, no one can 'cure' you of that desire. (And of course, it doesn't need 'curing', just acceptance.)
S
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Re: ToxicTreat: Call for participants for a 'project'
Sophia, so why are there many on this forum that are immune to your games? I am guessing many on the forum are not 100% gay as you put it. So how would they resist?
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Oh boy....
Someone should be selling choc-ices up in here. Or at least pop corn.
Dix.
Someone should be selling choc-ices up in here. Or at least pop corn.
Dix.
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just finished recruiting

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And during the interval


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Why do I have to stop being a KID now I can afford it.
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Why do I have to stop being a KID now I can afford it.
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haha xD... Sophia... If you were here...
I'd hug you so bad for this kind of entertainment, and than kick your ass and shoot you right to the moon xD''
So you can celebrate together with Michael Jackson, Elvis and Darth Vader
This is so hilarious.. or my sense of humor is just weird.. who knows :D
Anyways. Keep it up.
~green~
I'd hug you so bad for this kind of entertainment, and than kick your ass and shoot you right to the moon xD''
So you can celebrate together with Michael Jackson, Elvis and Darth Vader
This is so hilarious.. or my sense of humor is just weird.. who knows :D
Anyways. Keep it up.
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You can paint with all the colors of the wind
You can paint with all the colors of the wind
Re: ToxicTreat: Call for participants for a 'project'
Darth Vader died? Man, I have to catch up on my Star Trek.
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Okay,
I am going to speak up a bit
In short this idea is for people who actually want Real Life encounter
Not to play around, or dream about playing around
but are ready to deal with the hard core fun of actually submitting
Sophia
has I think been clear on that.
I think most of the staling or complaining Is because
many people go...OH?
Make it real?
Um... er...
and wimp out just thinking about it, no matter how much they like the fantasy.
having a Partner who actully does RL and real time Dommig on occasion
I can see how it is not easy for guys in fantasy to actually expierence the (multiple) emotions
of actaully trying something out for a real Domme, face to face.
I hope someone is brave enough to take up your challenge
as for me, I can resist because I am hopelessly in love with my wife
Luck!
I am going to speak up a bit
In short this idea is for people who actually want Real Life encounter
Not to play around, or dream about playing around
but are ready to deal with the hard core fun of actually submitting
Sophia
has I think been clear on that.
I think most of the staling or complaining Is because
many people go...OH?
Make it real?
Um... er...
and wimp out just thinking about it, no matter how much they like the fantasy.
having a Partner who actully does RL and real time Dommig on occasion
I can see how it is not easy for guys in fantasy to actually expierence the (multiple) emotions
of actaully trying something out for a real Domme, face to face.
I hope someone is brave enough to take up your challenge
as for me, I can resist because I am hopelessly in love with my wife
Luck!
all2true
is my other profile. see my chastity belt link :
http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16#p139016
is my other profile. see my chastity belt link :
http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16#p139016
Re: ToxicTreat: Call for participants for a 'project'
I agree. I am way to much of a whimp to do something such as Sophia suggests. Oh and I have to much at stake with my job to do it. The end result of this sounds very much like it will be a public type of spectacle.
So if Sophia is listening, I don't personally have a problem with what you are doing. Each person makes up the own mind on whether or not to participate. I guess I just love to argue(not very well I might add).
So if Sophia is listening, I don't personally have a problem with what you are doing. Each person makes up the own mind on whether or not to participate. I guess I just love to argue(not very well I might add).
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Everyone is in fact bisexual?SophiaStafford wrote: trev has correctly interpreted this for you-- even a neonazi might be immune if he truly loved Nazism enough. I haven't met any that love their fuhrer more than they love me, but I'm sure they must be out there somewhere.
I just want to make a very important clarification though. If you want to be truly immune to my games, it's not enough to merely "be gay". You must be "100% Gay". That is, practically everyone is, in fact, bisexual to some degree. And if you're bi, even in theory, it's often fairly simple for me to make you extremely bi.
Many of my favorite experiences have been with males who identified as gay when we first met.
.
Just to clarify though, it does NOT work the other way around. You can enflame existing desires, but you can't really 'extinguish' established sexual desire-- e.g. if you like people of the same sex, no one can 'cure' you of that desire. (And of course, it doesn't need 'curing', just acceptance.)
S
Wow! That's a bold claim. I'm curious...where did this supposed "fact" come from? If you want to say it's an opinion, that's fine, but claiming it is a fact doesn't make it so.
Anyway...your categories don't account for the simplest answer. Men who simply don't find you at all attractive. Or do you honestly believe no such man exists?

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We on Milovana are unlikely to meet anyone who is uninterested in teases.
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Be careful what you wish for!
Growing OLD Is Inevitable,
But Growing UP... Is Optional
OR
Why do I have to stop being a KID now I can afford it.
Be careful what you wish for!
Growing OLD Is Inevitable,
But Growing UP... Is Optional
OR
Why do I have to stop being a KID now I can afford it.


