ruining a women's orgasm

[trivium1234]

look don’t come up with all this poor hard done too sexist "women are different act". your a human being with feeling physiological needs fantasies and desires just the same as men are. The only difference is you have tits and a pussie which enables you to play the sexual attraction power card all the time that we (men) give you.

A good kind of frustrating for men and a bad one for women? because of self esteem! lol you having a laugh let me get my violin out! If anything all submissive have deep rooted things that has happened to them that make them (both sexes) feel below the opposite sex and they like it that where this sub dom role play comes from, its a kick a role play for fun. Its does not do women any harm nor does it do men any harm its something we like to do or we would not do it. And I can say it does make girls cum harder so all OD games are to enhance pleasure. That the only point your right on, and making a girl wait has the same effect.

As for the atentivness part its was in response to the past previous to mine stating quote

“I've heard some women claim that if they're denied over a prolonged period of time, they simply lose interest in sex, meaning they don’t get easier to control like males do.”

and thats rubbish, if you get a submissive girl then as long as you play within set boundaries set by the submissive they'll love it. Just as men do. The sub is always in control anyway coz its the sub who lays the bordures down. it’s the doms job to push them!

oh and i surpose men are totaly happy with their sex lives? some men cant reach orgasum either we are humans the same

WHATS GOOD FOR ONE IS GOOD FOR THE OTHER! DON’T PLAY THE WOMEN ARE HARD DONE BY CARD

[geronimo]

You cant possibly be serious - men and women are all the same when it comes to sex and sexual triggers? What rock have you been living under?
What I said about female orgasm denial leaving some women disinterested in sex is simply based on what female submissives have told me. Get over yourself and off your CAPS.

[trivium1234]

You cant possibly be serious - men and women are all the same when it comes to sex and sexual triggers? What rock have you been living under?
What I said about female orgasm denial leaving some women disinterested in sex is simply based on what female submissives have told me. Get over yourself and off your CAPS.

This comes from the man who stated and i qoute

"I've heard though, have no personal experience with female orgasm denial"

LOL well a rock that enables me to try to spices of life. now as for your point i never mentioned sexual triggers, (read my post) women are more simualted by the mind as opposed to visual but apart from that yes they are the same. so if the dom has been using what visual (as you would on a man) then that may explian the loss of interest, however that not to do with the OD.

AND JERK OFF, ILL TYPE AS I DAM WELL LIKE THANK YOU

[geronimo]

Yeah I dont have any personal experience with female orgasm denial, I've only talked to people who do. Why is that a problem? You telling me my friends are liars?

Doms, Dommes and female subs have stated that orgasm denial is different for women, different dynamic going into it and different in sheer physiological aspects as well, and some Dommes with slaves of both sexes will only deny their male slaves because of it. Does that mean that female orgasm denial is wrong? Hell no, the guy just asked about female orgasm denial and I told him what I knew.

[trivium1234]

first of all.

you pullled my post apart and insulted me by inplying i was up mu own ar*e, and to make things worse the point you pulled it apart on was not even mentioned in my post but something YOU precived. So this whole thing is precived conflict, again you have failed to READ what im saying, you just steam role in.

and secondly

you STILL have not learned because now accusing me of calling your freinds liars! i said read this time;

"women are more simualted by the mind as opposed to visual but apart from that yes they are the same, So if the dom has been using what visual (as you would on a man) then that may explian the loss of interest, however that not to do with the OD."

Not once have i called your frends liers on the contrary i have put a point of veiw in place as to how that could happen. (sorry but this is like school ground crap " you called my mate! Wahh wahhh wahh")

in closing

OD does not harm male or female's the whole purpose of this is meant to be hell and frustating. and there is no scentific prove that it does any phyical harm to women at all! no cancer risk no nothing!

back to my orignal statment

WHATS GOOD FOR ONE IS GOOD FOR THE OTHER

[zenlover]

Hey gang. Let's see if we can do this conversation without needing to attack each other.

Perhaps this might be a way to look at it:
On pretty much any dimension you look at, sex drive, body size, kinkiness, how much we work, sleep or vacation, our differences/preferences fall along a nice bell curve. Most people average, and some on either tail of the bell.

Because of some neurotypical differences in men and women, to say nothing of differences in cultural influences, one could make the case that there might be some differences between the "average woman" and the "average man". I see it as two bell curves which overlap a good deal, but not entirely. So if you can imagine these two bell curves (and yes the fact that it will look like breasts is not lost on me) you'll see that there are some men on the tail of their curve who are "less" whatever than some women and visa versa.

So, we're people first, gender beings second. People are mostly similar, but some different. The genders are mostly similar, but some different.

And I'm happier for the differences.

[trivium1234]

agree with zenlover,

people are all differnt and as i said first you need set boundrys that you set by talking to each other to find out what you both like.

[geronimo]

first of all.

you pullled my post apart and insulted me by inplying i was up mu own ar*e, and to make things worse the point you pulled it apart on was not even mentioned in my post but something YOU precived. So this whole thing is precived conflict, again you have failed to READ what im saying, you just steam role in.

and secondly

you STILL have not learned because now accusing me of calling your freinds liars! i said read this time;

"women are more simualted by the mind as opposed to visual but apart from that yes they are the same, So if the dom has been using what visual (as you would on a man) then that may explian the loss of interest, however that not to do with the OD."

Not once have i called your frends liers on the contrary i have put a point of veiw in place as to how that could happen. (sorry but this is like school ground crap " you called my mate! Wahh wahhh wahh")

in closing

OD does not harm male or female's the whole purpose of this is meant to be hell and frustating. and there is no scentific prove that it does any phyical harm to women at all! no cancer risk no nothing!

back to my orignal statment

WHATS GOOD FOR ONE IS GOOD FOR THE OTHER

When I got friends telling me that from their experience female orgasm denial is different from male orgasm denial and you refuse that and calls me a jerk off, you first of all ARE calling them liars and secondly you then ARE up your own ass, so I dont need to imply anything. Another thing I dont need is to argue with a guy on a forum, so take care buddy.

[switch boy]

wow, didn't expect a post like this to turn into a debate on sexism and what not...

But yeah I have to agree with zenlover.

In my experinces most women cum harder after being edged repeatedly, but I have also been with a couple who do lose interest after just one edging as well.

I do not ruin a women's orgasm often, the couple times I did it was because my girlfriend at the time would just want to roll over and go to bed after a full orgasm. By ruining it, it kept here horny and her clit very sensitive, which made it great to drive her crazy (the whole too much pleasure thing) and make her orgasm again.

So in that situation it was very similar to ruining a males orgasm, but everyone is different.

I know guys who have never cum from sex (need hand/blow jobs) and guys who need sex to cum (can't cum from hand/blow jobs). I've even heard of guys that need anal stimulation to cum. But it does seem that for the most part guys can cum from all of these while women may need a certain type of stimulation to orgasm.

[Jaberwocky]

To add a small thing:
It sure can be that men in general cums in less different ways. But I guess that on this part, Zenlover's breastcurves also comes into play.

I hope that the the concept of the breastcurves smooth things a little.
Make not !

[trivium1234]

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wow, didn't expect a post like this to turn into a debate on sexism and what not...

nor did i but i just felt the need to point out those facts.

I agree with you too, like i said the sub is always the one in control, therefore its pretty much what works for them anyway within any sub dom role play. And yeah the nearlygasum works a treat for most girls, or most i been with anyway.

And yeah i also know men who cant cum during sex just like some women i already pointed that out as well.

So in total agrreement with you but for the stupid comment about me being up my arse (for deer i say it voiceing an opinion) and calling people liars...................... fuks sakes