COCKTEASING WOMEN

[adorekristina]

I just wanted to post on something I've been thinking about...

It seems there have been many (and varying) threads about female authored cockteases...and yet there is no special attention for those women that DO pen them.

As a contributor to the site, I can list a few frustrations with the system...but overall, it's the fact that My incredible efforts can sometimes feel "unseen", that keeps Me from posting on a more regular basis.

Now, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings or make it seem as though I'm feeling unappreciated...I'm just taking a moment to speak openly about a subject that seems to be popping up in many different forum threads.

I've had My webteases featured as TOTM and I've had some be rated only 3.0...but in the end, I put in lots of time and creativity into each one...and they speak to My sexuality and pleasure as a real-life Femdom.

The question I pose is this...

if there is such an issue about how many woman are on the site and how many webteases are written by women...why isn't there some sort of special attention given to those that ARE!!!?

Again...I don't know what that would be or what issues it may bring up...but perhaps all this recent interest in the topic can bring about a new step in the community.

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AND...this is more for everyone's internal questioning really...but I wonder if the people that don't like male-written teases, feel there is a difference in the content of concept versus a webtease by a woman?!

Can you tell the difference between My content and that of a man?

Does a tease written by a female make you feel differently?

Is the end result any different depending on who wrote it?

[denton]

Well, I think that many people view the webteases purely as fantasy, they want an immersive scenario and all that and it doesn't really matter that much who wrote them.

This is hugely different from what women like LMJ, Lady X et al. did/do on this forum, where it's about feedback and "interactivity". It's about 2 people (or more) playing and communicating. This is not really the case in a webtease.

Thus, female webtease author probably get only about as much feedback as male authors get. Males who join the forum and try to put up tasks/games for other users to play will probably get a lot less feedback than women will

I would like to use the opportunity to thank you for actually making teases, even though I can't say that I did any of them, though. But then again, webteases don't do too much for me.. sure, they can be fun and it's great that we have lots of them and I sure did enjoy some of them, but I much prefer what the women on the forum here did/do. It's a lot more personal, "real", frustrating and fun

[dtspam]

I also thought, that one reason why only very few women visit this site, might by, that it isn't very visible, what the site has to offer for women.
For submissive women there are quite a few teases, but you have to use the advanced search and tags to find them. It would be better, if theses for men and women would be separated more clearly. For example there could be a way to switch between a view of male and female teases that's directly and clearly visible (it could still be based on the tagging system).
Its not so clear to me, what could attract dominant women. It didn't occur to me, that dominant women would prefer their teases to be more visible. But I guess it makes sense, if you wan't to interact with subs (or want to interest subs in your own site), subs should be able to find those teases between all the fiction.
Usually doing a tease for me is just fantasy, like is reading a good adventure book. You interact with the characters, not with the authors. Thus, the author doesn't matter at all. If the author is actually part of the tease, that changes, especially if there is some interaction outside the tease.
So maybe the idea above could be extended to that, and a extra category for teases, where the author is a part of the tease, could be introduced and displayed prominently. (I don't think it should be enough for the author to be female (or male in the case of women), it should really make a difference to the tease, that he is e.g. he uses his own pictures, voice or wants to interact somehow).
I didn't consider gays and lesbians. While most teases for women seem to be for bisexual or lesbian women (probably because they are written by straight men), there are extremely few teases for gay men. Thus four categories (straight/gay males/females) might be exceedingly complicated, but on the other hand it might help to interest even more users.

[SexualChoc]

How can the adminisrator be sure that someone with a login as female
is actually female?

I don't think we have any who aren't here.
But really there is nothing to stop a guy creating a login as a gal.

Still I agree female content should be easier to find
Either Dom or Submissive.

There are almost no female OD sites out there. Just do a search and you'll see what I mean.
There are a few ladies who like OD that do stop in from time to time
a more 'friendly' welcome might be appropiate.

As for Dom women
I also wish there was some preferential treatment.
Of course, I am a subbie and I love female worship
so my views are bias
But I do agree!

[les]

Dear adorekristina,
don't feel bad,
Nobody gets consistent top marks,

But then again some authors are favourites.
Submatt is one of mine.

I feel that sometimes it is how the tease is promoted that helps the viewers and so the marks/votes.
in most cases the voters are less than 5% of the viewers.

I like teases that have a "Natural and Smooth flow"

Les

[dtspam]

How can the adminisrator be sure that someone with a login as female
is actually female?

He can't, and of cause some female authors may be fakes. But that's for everyone to judge for himself, it would just be nicer, to find those teases more easily. There's not even a official tag for that yet.

For teases for women that doesn't even matter. The site should just be more inviting to them by presenting the existing teases better. My hope would be that a small but separated space for teases for women would be more likely to attract a growing community of women, using and writing teases.

[les]

Further thoughts,

Why does it matter who or what the author is.
Surely the result should be a "Good Story" that pleases "The Target Audience".
Be it Femdomme male sub/ fem sub,
Or Maledom male sub/fem sub

Otherwise we are encouraging sexual discrimination.

A well structured/written/seductive/erotic/enticing/realistic/etc story/tease/scenario.
Is what the reader/viewer/voyeur desires/reacts/responds to and is aroused by.

I have read/heard that gays/lesbians are better at oral sex than straight chaps and chapesses
Because they know what they want/need/desire and respond to.


Les

[Human]

It seems there have been many (and varying) threads about female authored cockteases...and yet there is no special attention for those women that DO pen them.

As has been mentioned, the admins have no way of knowing whether a poster is male or female. In fact, there have been males posing as females in the chatrooms, pissing off several guys.

As a contributor to the site, I can list a few frustrations with the system...but overall, it's the fact that My incredible efforts can sometimes feel "unseen", that keeps Me from posting on a more regular basis.

Now, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings or make it seem as though I'm feeling unappreciated...I'm just taking a moment to speak openly about a subject that seems to be popping up in many different forum threads.

I've had My webteases featured as TOTM and I've had some be rated only 3.0...but in the end, I put in lots of time and creativity into each one...and they speak to My sexuality and pleasure as a real-life Femdom.

Valid question, I have posted on this elsewhere to you, basic recap for others:
You are *very* talented audio wise, but audio may not be what the *majority* of milovana users like (the majority liking loads of professionally taken touched up pictures). This does not mean you are unappreciated here, only rather that there is a smaller number of people who are really appreciative. One fault of the milovana rating system is that people dont get to see the distribution of ratings.
Eg, if 50 people vote on a (3.0 rated tease) tease, and all 50 give a 3, it probably means the tease is not good.
However, if 15 people vote it a 5 and 35 vote a 2 (resultant = 3.0), then it just means that the tease caters to a particular segment of people.

To give another example, take the TOTM flash teases, and put them on a generic porn site for ratings. They will get a very low rating compared to generic boring porn videos. Does this mean generic mundane porn is better? No.


There should be a rating distribution on teases (like what amazon.com has "x people voted 5, y people voted 4 etc".

In fact I'm going to create a thread on this...
EDIT: Done, http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5736

Does a tease written by a female make you feel differently?

Is the end result any different depending on who wrote it?

Yes, and yes. In fact Little Miss Jay created a tease under another name to see if her identity played a role in her tease ratings...I forget what the outcome was..there was a thread on this..

A tease by a woman is more arousing.

[dtspam]

Further thoughts,
Why does it matter who or what the author is.

As I tried to explain: For "normal" teases it does not matter. The reader is teased by the model used in the tease. That doesn't depend at all on the gender of the author.

But in some teases the authors them self use their pictures in the tease or their voice. To me that's a different experience. It's more real because I know there is a real person involved that enjoys me doing their tease. There were even one or two tease requiring some feedback (there were a lot more probably done by guys, but there the authors didn't try to pretend they were girls) and interaction. This is a non-standard way of using webteases, because its more about being teased by the author as it is about being teased by a story character. I think that's also the case for Princess Christina's teases.
I don't believe that it would be discriminating to distinguish this kind of teases.

[les]

I still say

Surely the result should be a "Good Story" that pleases "The Target Audience".


Les

[slutty1]

I think the quick volume of responses to this post shows that if a cockteasing woman wants attention, her time is much better spent posting in the forums and interacting with people as opposed to writing a webtease. I really think it's that interactivity that guys here crave, much more so than female-authored webteases.

As far as the webteases themselves go, for me it's nice to see teases written by women, but I'm fine with male-authored teases as well. On the Milovana 1-5 scale, I'd say female authorship is worth maybe 1/2 star. That's just my personal opinion; I don't claim it applies to anyone else. I think pretty much all of my absolute favorite, highest-rated teases were written by guys (according to their names/profiles, anyway). I don't think I could reliably guess whether a tease was written by a male or a female based just on the content. Well, maybe some male-authored teases would be obvious, but I think it would be very hard to differentiate on well-written teases.

[cumhardy]

How can the adminisrator be sure that someone with a login as female
is actually female?
But really there is nothing to stop a guy creating a login as a gal.

Yeah I think this would be the issue. If teases written by women suddenly started to get 'special attention' then there would be an increase in the number of guys logging in pretending to be girls so their teases get more views/ratings etc.

Plus, so what if a tease has been written by a genuine lady? that doesnt automatically mean its going to be any good!

[masterstroke]

Kristina:

I respectfully disagree. The women who contribute to this site have received demonstrative amounts of attention. The big four that come to mind are you, Little Miss Jay, Whisperz Mistress, and Ali. Each of you have your audience. In addition, members such of Myya have participated in endeavors such as "Cum Day For A Horny Girl."

As SexualChoc has noted, there are very few OD sites for women. I've also searched for them in order to study the techniques for potential teases. Is possible that there isn't a large audience for female OD teases? I don't know.

As for the questions you posed:

Can you tell the difference between My content and that of a man? Yes, particularly if its an audio tease.

Does a tease written by a female make you feel differently? No. If the tease is well written, it doesn't really matter.

Is the end result any different depending on who wrote it? No. Doing a tease written by either a man or a woman is like drinking instant coffee. It has some of the qualities of the original product, but its not the genuine article.

Finally, the primary target audience of this site is persons is males who perform the role of submissive or switch. My prediction is as the site evolves more teases will be written for women and more teases will be written by women (both for women and men). As for dominant women, most have their own sites. For them, this site is an opportunity to expand their audience. (By the way there's nothing wrong with that).

Finally, you have identified a problem (no special attention for those women that write teases). What is the proposed solution?

[miatly]

To me your teases feel like a front for your website. The pictures aren't the greatest. You're pretty enough, but the quality of the photos is lacking and each one has adorekristina.com written through the center. Now consider that you are crying for more attention (publicity).

While the idea of audio teases seems fantastic it never quite works for me. I dislike slow seductive pauses but there's no way to talk at a normal pace without making the whole thing seem disjointed. And while some people here might praise you and thank you for all your hard work I don't think it's _that_ hard to talk sexy into a microphone for 15 minutes. Surely writing relies more on skillfully chosen words; And arranging a few dozen pictures to a good tempo of instructions can be artful.

I was going to check your site to see whether it had a pay element or not but Chrome gave me this: The website at www.adorekristina.com contains elements from the site www.luxuryqueens.com, which appears to host malware ...

There are females who come through milovana with unpolished teases and they come on strong, but they don't stick around. They're here to troll for more customers. I was initially surprised when you posted more than 1 or 2 teases. Thats cool.
edit: actually, I'm unconvinced. You've posted 5 teases and there is year long gap between #2 and #3. You haven't posted a tease since May. The descriptions read like advertisements.

In case not everyone has figured it out yet teases are about us the viewer. Even when we say we want to worship the dom we usually want the tease to be about us. I get bored with the teases that go on and on about how great the dom is and how perfect they are and .. *yawn* Those teases are telling, not showing.

Tldr: No special treatment for authors based on gender. A good tease will stand on its own. Stop crying for attention. You're the kind of self important dom that capitalizes the word My. Seriously, you pretend to
want recognition for female authors but look at how much you say Me and My and how every sentence is about you.

[Human]

I don't think it's _that_ hard to talk sexy into a microphone for 15 minutes. Surely writing relies more on skillfully chosen words.

Trust me, it is
Voice, words, tempo, voice pitch, emoting, all have to work in unison without it seeming idiotic.
There is a reason why there are voice actors/actresses.

(and similarly they dont get much recognition either! )

You've posted 5 teases and there is year long gap between #2 and #3. You haven't posted a tease since May. The descriptions read like advertisements.

While there is nothing wrong with advertisements, the last tease or two were quite interactive, she created a thread to see what people wanted, and created teases based on that. Just to show that its not like a drive by generic tease dropoff for her!!