Help me please Toxic Treat?

[stevecraigslist]

Miss Sophia, for some unknown reason, wants to make me a project of hers. She has asked me to be available online for an hour a week with webcam. The problem is I am married with a child, so home is out. Any ideas how to do this? I fear renting a hotel room, because the charges would show up on my credit card. Help, please?

[curiousuk2002]

Look unless you are very lucky or rich you cant do this, given your family.
Go back to Miss Sophia tell her the truth beg, for a forfeit and another punishment.
Just be honest.

[dubble]

Miss Sophia, for some unknown reason, wants to make me a project of hers. She has asked me to be available online for an hour a week with webcam. The problem is I am married with a child, so home is out. Any ideas how to do this? I fear renting a hotel room, because the charges would show up on my credit card. Help, please?

Honesty with your wife is best, first, and foremost.... then with Miss Sophia... although I need to ask how old your child is. There are many questions and several possibilities here, a few of which could be:

What if your wife was 'in' on this scenario, guided by Miss Sophia (away from your child)? Double Domme is a dream!
What kind of 'project' are you going to be? Maybe it's nothing too 'bad' or humiliating (I'm dreaming here probably, but....?).
Maybe Sophia wants to make you a slave to your wife (?). Could that be her project (...especially if you are arrogant and self-centered. No offense, just speculating. Miss Sophia is one smart cookie though, and may want to make you a bit more humble)?
Could your wife have found out you have been in contact with Miss Sophia and they are both plotting against you?
Would you consider this 'cheating' if your wife doesn't know what you're doing/planning?
Would your wife think so? Many people I know consider this as infidelity (mental and emotional rather than physical).

Think of the possible consequences before taking action! This seems a sign of disrespect to your wife unless she is in on it! She doesn't deserve that! Think with your BIG head, not the one in your pants! Could this cost you your marriage? Don't do anything away from your wife that you wouldn't do in front of her. There are threads here on the forum to help people get their partners involved in fun, kinky, adventurous play....(and yes, they usually take some time to learn, get comfortable, and evolve). Don't be another statistic of a failed marriage!! Learn to communicate with her, not just talk.

Again, no offense meant, but you sound quite immature and that maybe your marriage is of convenience or money rather than of love. Sneaking around on your partner is never a good or healthy thing! I'm not an expert by any means, but this is how I was raised, what I've read/studied, and what I believe. For all I know I'm full of shiite, but my wife will get nothing less than my best!

[quorr777]

Never forget.....sex is supposed to be fun.

Sexual fantasy is fantastic fun.

It is not reality......

Tell Miss Sophia "NO!"

Nothing could be simpler.

(Was this project going to involve any payment on your part?)

[mpug]

Try being a man and tell your wife what you're into. Did you marry someone you don't trust or is not a friend or someone you can share your deepest desires with? Don't be an idiot!

[Incubo]

For some unkown reason? You're kidding right?

20 seconds of reading and even I can tell you what she wants.

Seriously, use your big head for a bit.

[sexualreflex909]

Same craig as on the pictures?

http://www.toxictreat.com/


Sophia seems dangerous, be careful what you wish for if you get seriuse with her, she seems like she would get pleasure out of literally destroying you, it doesnt seem like a game!

[stevecraigslist]

Wow. No suggestions but a lot to think about. For the person who says they already know what Sophia wants, please tell me. I don't.

[z_k]

Here's the thing: you're literally asking for people to help you destroy your life, and directly harm your wife and child. Some people might be unethical enough to do so, but I'm heartened to see people refusing to do so.

Do you enjoy having a relationship with your child? If so, you might want to stop and think about what you're doing, because if things go south (and from what she's written and from your description as a "project," things going south seems more certainty than probability), your wife can and almost certainly will use what you're about to do as proof that you're a "deviant" who shouldn't have a relationship with his son or daughter. How would that make you feel? More importantly, how do you think that will make them feel?

Do you enjoy having a job? If you live in an "at-will" or "right-to-work" state, your employer can fire you for any reason they see fit. If you have a messy custody battle (or they just happen to Google your name), they can decide that they don't want to deal with it and just let you go, and just put you out on the street.

It may not be in accordance with general BDSM social organizing principles, but I'll go ahead and say it: Your Kink Is Not OK, and you shouldn't expect anyone ethical to support it.

Since you asked "what she wants," I'll point out some of the greatest hits:

Interests: Humiliation, Psychological Abuse, Life Destruction

Yes, for the submissive, these sorts of activities aren't transitory and the pain can be longstanding. Perhaps it's wrong of me, but to me, this is the greatest joy of the whole thing. They will live their whole lives and never ever forget me. The more permanent the destruction someone will inflict on themselves-- well that just makes it all the hotter, doesn't it. Perhaps I'm just evil, but at least I'm honest and upfront about it.

Of course, you online freaks are an _entirely_ different species altogether. Here the moral questions are aren't even imaginable. You boys pass by millions of sites about women pleasing men and come instead to sites about women who treat you like shit. For you, the short end of the stick is genuinely preferable. Unless you have kids, I can, with a clean conscience, make you do basically anything I want to make you do.

If you give me all this power to be able to do absolutely whatever I want, how can you blame me for using that kind of power. If you place me in a world absolutely overflowing with people who are incessantly beg, plead, pay, or sacrifice for a chance to make me happy in any way--- how can you blame me for 'giving in' and letting people completely obliterate their own ego just so I can watch and laugh and enjoy. If the fruit is to be forbidden, then it shouldn't be so very easily harvested and it shouldn't be so damn tasty.

She gets off on destroying people, and doesn't feel any moral qualms against doing so.

Listen: I'd be lying if I said there wasn't a part of me that found that level of sadism to be intensely erotic. However, the more important part of me recognizes her as engaging in morally repugnant acts for her own gratification and justifies it with these sort of rationalizations.

The best advice I can give you is that, in light of the fact that you have a marriage and a child, not to do this. I've sent her a few messages (at the moment, I don't recall if any were returned), but it was with the understanding that any information I gave her could and, if she so chose, would be used against me. If what I've said isn't enough to dissuade you, then I would recommend you at least do likewise, and not give her the rope to hang you with.

I'm not normally one to rain on other's parades or piss in other's Cheerios, but you've asked for other people's help and this is the best help I can provide. It's obviously your decision to make, but I do feel some level of responsibility to my fellow kinksters to call it as I see it in this sort of situation.

[Incubo]

For the person who says they already know what Sophia wants, please tell me. I don't.

If you can't tell what she wants then you obviously have no idea who you're dealing with. Sophia isn't exactly "secretive" about what she gets off on. Her thoughts/desires/opinions are freely shared all over the place.

Do yourself a favor and READ.

[stevecraigslist]

Again, wow. She has promised never to expose me unless I beg for it. I guess you are all saying that I should not trust that promise, and to see that this is clearly heading towards real personal pain for me and others.

These are such good points and hard to debate. I don't know what to do with the fact that a part of me craves this sort of play, and she is so good at it. A part of me does trust her, clearly. She could have exposed me already. However, perhaps you are right, and she is just digging the knife in deeper.

I honestly am somewhat lost as to what to do.

[SophiaStafford]

What a delicious discussion to stumble onto. A textbook narcissist's ultimate dream, perhaps.

I absolutely will not spoil the mysteries or involve myself in the conversation directly, but I will dispel two potential concerns.

1. Some things are sacred, even to me. Children are among them. Because my website is what it is, I obviously having talked much about my feelings on kids, but they are the most precious, adorable, wonderful beings in the universe. They're a brand new human life. God may not exist, but children do, and harming children is, for me, pretty much the worst crime imaginable-- and I seriously mean that.

I tell you this so you will know-- I have never and would never knowingly let my little hobby hurt a child.

2. Important to note-- no where in all my writings will you ever find the tiniest hint of me doing blackmail. I adore blackmail like things, but blackmail is NOT what I do. What I do is, for me, a kind of sexuality. Okay, part egotism, part art, part sport, part sex. But nothing spoils the magic for me like blackmail or receiving money for continuation of the dance. it's a step BACKWARDS in hotness for me. It's a simply the ultimate turn off-- for me, it makes the dynamic "he has something I need and I want it so bad I'll struggle to get what he already has". Direct blackmail is the utter mood killer for me.

I tell you this about blackmail not because I think "erotic blackmail" is necessarily wrong or inherently unappealing or anything judgmental like that. Many women with my aptitudes do, in fact, choose that route, and I love their work. It would be a turn-off for me, but they're not me, so what does do my predilections matter???

I emphasize that I don't do blackmail because I want it crystal clear-- what I do to people, what I've done in the past, what I AM going to do to steve-- I do it because it's what _I_ enjoy. _I_ enjoy making people giving me great power over their lives. _I_ enjoy smashing things. _I_ enjoy carving and molding and reshaping human minds. _I_ enjoy scaring him and _I_ enjoy watching him overcome his fears, watching him break down, and watching as he eagerly does exactly what he was scared of.

And, _I_ am the one who made a website that documents my desires, _I_ am the one who is beseeched by letters from people asking to please me, and _I_ am the one who takes reaches out and controls. The things I do are not a separate activity, they are my identity. They are interwoven into my life. Toxic Treat, the website, is the ultimate empowerment-- I published my sex life on the internet, for the world to see.

It is not a chronicle of a woman doing mean things to people. It is a chronicle of a proud woman ENJOYING doing mean things to people, owning that desire, reveling in it, and announcing it to the world. That is the art of it.

[SophiaStafford]

Again, wow. She has promised never to expose me unless I beg for it. I guess you are all saying that I should not trust that promise.

Oh Steve-- you can trust my promise completely. What you can't trust is yourself.

[sexualreflex909]

Ah Sophia your so cruel

[stevecraigslist]

Well, I have plunged in, at least part way. Here is hoping that this was wise --- that i will get what i seek and the cost will be bearable -- the loss being to my sense of control, not too my actual dream, desires, and life.