"Stroke X times" vs. "Stroke for X seconds"

[texturedshroom]

All things considered, in a non-flash tease, would you rather be told to stroke a certain number of times or for a certain number of seconds/minutes/whatever?

I prefer the latter, mostly because it's hard for me to enjoy wanking while counting. But I don't know which one most people prefer, so I usually try to make some teases with one and some with the other.

[JelloBoy]

I prefer the latter, mostly because it's hard for me to enjoy wanking while counting. But I don't know which one most people prefer, so I usually try to make some teases with one and some with the other.

That about sums it up for me too.

[Brad]

Neither. The problem with X amount of strokes or X seconds is that it gets repetitive and boring very quickly and these are usually the kinds of teases I wont finish. Not because Im trying to be disobediant, but because being told do this and that X amount of times or X long doesnt excite me. The Mistress may as well be a robot.

I have seen a few teases where they throw out the 'X Factor' and use a bit of imagination.

As an example, compare these two scripts:

" Now My slave, begin to stroke, count out 100 strokes as you get to the edge, staring at my perfect body, knowing you belong at My feet"

and

"My slave, I want you to begin stroking, focus your mind, and gently rub your hand up and down your slick, aching shaft, as you watch me. Feel my loving but powerful stare and slowly lower your view, down my soft silky neck, framed by my golden hair. You wish it was my hair that touched your sensitive belly as I leaned over to blow gently over your cock. Feel that air rush over it now as your eyes slip down to my breasts. You were always a breast man, you love how they feel as I stop blowing on your cock, and slide up your body. My breasts would rub over your hard aching shaft as it tried to hold in all that cum, that hot cum thats now churning around as you pick up speed. Your stroking faster now, and there is nothing you can do about it. You must obey me slave."

Now if you read that paragraph slowly, it will take you about 100 strokes (I havent tested this, I could be wrong) but instead of counting in your head, or wondering how much time you have left (if its X amount of time), you are letting your mind drift as you look at the photo of the Mistress. You are letting your imagination create a scene, which is far more powerful than any 2 second order to count to 100 as you wank. If I was a Mistress, I would much prefer to take my slave on a journey into his mind, it penetrates the sub side much deeper.

Just my opinion :) any thoughts?

[texturedshroom]

Neither. The problem with X amount of strokes or X seconds is that it gets repetitive and boring very quickly and these are usually the kinds of teases I wont finish. Not because Im trying to be disobediant, but because being told do this and that X amount of times or X long doesnt excite me. The Mistress may as well be a robot.

I have seen a few teases where they throw out the 'X Factor' and use a bit of imagination.

As an example, compare these two scripts:

" Now My slave, begin to stroke, count out 100 strokes as you get to the edge, staring at my perfect body, knowing you belong at My feet"

and

"My slave, I want you to begin stroking, focus your mind, and gently rub your hand up and down your slick, aching shaft, as you watch me. Feel my loving but powerful stare and slowly lower your view, down my soft silky neck, framed by my golden hair. You wish it was my hair that touched your sensitive belly as I leaned over to blow gently over your cock. Feel that air rush over it now as your eyes slip down to my breasts. You were always a breast man, you love how they feel as I stop blowing on your cock, and slide up your body. My breasts would rub over your hard aching shaft as it tried to hold in all that cum, that hot cum thats now churning around as you pick up speed. Your stroking faster now, and there is nothing you can do about it. You must obey me slave."

Now if you read that paragraph slowly, it will take you about 100 strokes (I havent tested this, I could be wrong) but instead of counting in your head, or wondering how much time you have left (if its X amount of time), you are letting your mind drift as you look at the photo of the Mistress. You are letting your imagination create a scene, which is far more powerful than any 2 second order to count to 100 as you wank. If I was a Mistress, I would much prefer to take my slave on a journey into his mind, it penetrates the sub side much deeper.

Just my opinion :) any thoughts?

I agree that the latter paragraph is way stronger, but mostly because it's better-written. I personally enjoy when a tease page features good, strong, hot writing, but still tells me to stroke for a given amount of time. Then during that period of time I can go back over what I just read.

Of course, it's not perfect and seems kind of awkward sometimes... which is why I prefer to do flash teases, where the timing is automated. But then you can't fit as much writing on a flash tease page due to the way it's laid out, so that's a different can of worms.

I try to avoid "stroke for X amount of time" or "stroke X times" whenever possible, but sometimes the character of the Mistress in my tease just doesn't have enough to say.

[Brad]

I really think all of that awkwardness could be taken away. A Mistress can still tell you the way to stroke, without how long or how much. For example, instead of saying "Stroke 100 times and reach an edge", the Mistress should be explaining how that edge is going to be reached.

For example (because I seem to be good at examples at the moment )

"Your going to start stroking that limp dick for me as you listen to what I am saying, and obey. As your hand touches your shaft, you can feel a slight coldness from your palm. As you listen to me, and stroke up and down your shaft, it grows, it swells and you can feel it pulsing in between your fingers. Your breathing is getting heavier, and you may even feel a little flushed as you sink down in your chair, your head tilts back slightly, your hand is picking up speed as you moan.... Your feeling overwhelmed and happy as I command you to wrap your fingers tighter around your cock. Your other hand, useless and wanting to help, starts to claw gently at your thigh. Your looking desperately at me as you get closer and closer. Your heart pounds to my words as you feel a small rush through your shaft. My eyes fix hungrily on you as edge.. edge for me! edge for me slave!

In this way, you can still get your fix, because the Mistress is telling what you need to do, and what your body is feeling. There are better ways for a Mistress to tell you how to stroke, than how long or how many strokes :)

no?

[Brad]

PS I realise that last one may have had small elements of suggestion in it My ex-Mistress used to put me into subspace so fast with that.... and a flogger

[texturedshroom]

I think I see where you're coming from. But personally I don't like being told how to stroke most of the time unless I'm already really horny. I have my own way of jerking it and I honestly can't get hard any other way.

I'm also not big on the "get into your head" kind of Mistresses. I like clever Mistresses, but whether you chalk it up to a lack of imagination or whatever, I can never seem to get in a space if a Mistress is trying to "suggest" me into it.

But that's kind of a sidenote--I agree it's always better not to have that awkwardness.

[Brad]

so basically you like to do it all your own way, but a Mistress can provide the material to help you wank?

Sorry, im only teasing

PS Do you associate with being sub? or just a fantasy you happen to like? Just curious

[texturedshroom]

so basically you like to do it all your own way, but a Mistress can provide the material to help you wank?

Sorry, im only teasing

I know you're teasing but that's nonsense. There is no "Mistress" in a tease; they're generally written by guys and for the sole purpose of helping you wank.

You're confusing the fantasy (online t&d sites) with the reality (actual Mistresses) in this case... in real life I do far better things for my Mistress than stroking for her. I doubt my real Mistress would be concerned with how I stroke in the least bit.

PS Do you associate with being sub? or just a fantasy you happen to like? Just curious

I am a sub.

[Brad]

Good point I forgot about that.

[wonderbo]

My preference is for Brad's method. However, I'm not really a sub. It's all fantasy to me.

[Little Miss Jay]

Very interesting thread, thanks Shroom for starting it!

Little Miss Jay x

[dix]

If I had to choose I'd say time. But some of the best ones that I've seen combine both. Very effective.

dix.

[texturedshroom]

Very interesting thread, thanks Shroom for starting it!

Little Miss Jay x

You're very welcome Miss Jay!

[BoredOMK17]

This has been something I've wondered since I stumbled upon milovana.

I can't say I like either one. I don't typically go from top to bottom. I usually just hold on and.. move me wrist up and down fast. So X amount of strokes is hard for me, because I don't really stroke at all. We all have different techniques that we learned on from our younger years.

When I see a tease that says "X amount of time" I usually just count that many seconds in my head while I do my thing. I don't use a clock, thats inconvenient. Sometimes when I'm in a rush to get through the tease I'll count very very fast. Sometimes when I feel like relaxing I'll use the Mississippi Technique. The stroke for X amount of time is probably my favorite, but I guess I enjoy both techniques. Sometimes when it says "X amount of Strokes" I suck it up and get out the spit or whatever and stroke normal I guess.

I really, really, really hate the metronome technique, when its not done properly. When a tease says something like "Set your metronome to 3 and get to edge" I'm like... What the fuck? How am I going to get to edge jerking once every 4 minutes? Instantly I think the creator is an idiot. However, I really enjoy the metronome when used properly. But there is a thin line.