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[Visitor from Bound Anna]

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11 spams. Is that a new personal best for you?

[markus]

11 spams. Is that a new personal best for you?

This forum (the whole board) is basically non-moderated, sadly.
The only moderation post I saw for a long time revealed a startling incompetence.
An admin (the only one with the necessary access in case of problems) who seems not to take care too much is another problem.

The forum was able to survive (imho) because of most of the users behave and keep it respectful on their own, but this place is exposed and vulnerable to all kind of bad-guys, whereas spams are the least problematic (imho).

Greetz,
Markus

[Visitor from Bound Anna]

11 spams. Is that a new personal best for you?

This forum (the whole board) is basically non-moderated, sadly.
The only moderation post I saw for a long time revealed a startling incompetence.
An admin (the only one with the necessary access in case of problems) who seems not to take care too much is another problem.

The forum was able to survive (imho) because of most of the users behave and keep it respectful on their own, but this place is exposed and vulnerable to all kind of bad-guys, whereas spams are the least problematic (imho).

Greetz,
Markus

Good to meet you, Markus.
I may volunteer my services here, just have to get some personal stuff moving before I can take on another forum.

[markus]

Good to meet you, Markus.
I may volunteer my services here, just have to get some personal stuff moving before I can take on another forum.

I would highly appreciate your help, as someone with quite some moderation experience on my own, I have a good feeling and I'm sure you'd do a good job in here, ... it's just on milo I am just a user and have no 'connections' which would help on that matter.
I doubt someone would ask me, but if, my vote would be yours.

[Visitor from Bound Anna]

Good to meet you, Markus.
I may volunteer my services here, just have to get some personal stuff moving before I can take on another forum.

I would highly appreciate your help, as someone with quite some moderation experience on my own, I have a good feeling and I'm sure you'd do a good job in here, ... it's just on milo I am just a user and have no 'connections' which would help on that matter.
I doubt someone would ask me, but if, my vote would be yours.

Thanks Markus. In addition to a nod from you, I do have my work on my forum, if the administration here needed to ask the administrator there, , or the moderators I have trained, or they could also read my conflict resolutions in the forum .

[tigrotto]

This forum (the whole board) is basically non-moderated, sadly.

Hi
Sure the number of active mods is low but those who are active do their job. I don't know what would be a good number of active mods to keep an eye on all the post everyday and spot potential issues, if it's even possible to do. And that's why there's the report button: all users can be "moderators" and report the problems so that we can then act.
I try to keep an eye on new posts and comments but I can't do it everyday for all the comments. It takes already 15-20 minutes to send codes every day.

The only moderation post I saw for a long time revealed a startling incompetence.

I'm not sure if you're referring to the solution I proposed or if you were generally referring to my whole approach to the situation when you wrote "startling incompetence"
I admitted my lack of knowledge in the subject and so I proposed a solution based on what I understood from the conversation people had.
If you were referring to the first then I asked people to message me with better solutions if they had any and I'm still waiting on replies on that one.
If you had replied with a better solution I could have learned something and maybe I could have done a better job. I'm open to learn if there's someone who knows more has better ideas.

but this place is exposed and vulnerable to all kind of bad-guys, whereas spams are the least problematic (imho).

I don't know what bad-guys you're referring to. Regarding the spammers like this Miss Wendy I know some will always sneak in. I send 10-20 invites a day and all you need to do to get one is write a comment saying why you want to join.
Which doesn't screen spammers but it was created to filter another issue. Bots apparently but I wasn't around when that happened and don't know the story.
Regarding the spammers please report them and we'll take care of them.
Before reddit changed to chat only I was able to ban the reddit account which requested the code. Now with chat I can't ctrl f and see which reddit account received the code linked to the spammer account. Anyway you just have to make another throaway reddit account and you've avoided the ban.

Time to send codes.
Feel free (you or anyone) to message me even in private if you have suggestions so I can do better my job and I'll make sure to read them and apply them whenever they may be needed.
Have a nice day!

[kerkersklave]

I don't think the spammers are a big problem. It's just a few posts now and then and usually gone in 24h.
I would love if the teases are removed completely as well and not just downvoted, cause they even keep popping up in the search and in ramdom teases, but it's also not a big deal.

Keeping the community alive is currently much more important than keeping the very low number of spammers out. I don't believe this low effort spamming can't be very effective as well, and it looks like this is a person doing it manually, or it would be more systematic. So they'll give up after a while.

Have you checked that they are creating a new account via your invites every time? They could be using their own invites to create further accounts and if so they should be identified and deleted as well.

One could of course implement various technical measures like automatic spam filters, restrictions on the number of initial posts etc. But for a community this small it will cause more issues than it will solve.

[Visitor from Bound Anna]

I never said you weren't doing your job, maybe it's just me feeling like I could do more, I have the talent but have not volunteered it yet.

[Visitor from Bound Anna]

Update, I have just pledged my services to the Administration, at the sight of another Wendy post.
I hope I can enhance the hard work of the current moderators, as I have at Bound Anna, as Shannon SteelSlave.

[tigrotto]

I never said you weren't doing your job

Sorry I didn't mean to give that impression to anyone, I just wanted to share some behind the scenes. I was actually here to check this post to delete it if needed and decided to reply.

Have you checked that they are creating a new account via your invites every time?

There are 4 that I invited that have a similar Mistress/Goddess Wendy username. I'll verify.

at the sight of another Wendy post.

Saw that, I'll take care of it.
If you see others that I miss please report them so we can fix that.

[edger477]

There are 4 that I invited that have a similar Mistress/Goddess Wendy username. I'll verify.

job security ensured :D

[markus]

Sure the number of active mods is low but those who are active do their job.

Where?
I cannot recall one example.
Maybe we have a different understanding/definition of the moderator job.

I don't know what would be a good number of active mods to keep an eye on all the post everyday and spot potential issues, if it's even possible to do.

I've just checked through the forum to have an overview of all new posts the last days:
3 required, 4 perfect, 5 luxury, 6 already too much for a forum of this size and activity.
+ one person with server access (at least limited access) (sort of webmaster) to protect against misuse of webteases (or can you edit/delete them in case of abuse?), and to take care about a little of the page (the legendary chat button i.e.).

And that's why there's the report button: all users can be "moderators" and report the problems so that we can then act.

That's not what a report button is for, it's not called "pseudo-mod-button" for a reason, at least that's how I know it, how I'm used to a feature like that, how it is in places I know, and how it should be (imho):
It's an emergency button, a mod cannot be around 24/7, but once a report is there, when he comes online, instead of doing his usual forum round he sees "report" so that's the first thing to check, a way to make sure action can be taken as soon as possible.
If users have to use it because no moderator steps in a situation on his own (within an appropriate time window) where moderation would be required, it shows the lack of moderation.

I try to keep an eye on new posts and comments but I can't do it everyday for all the comments.

Nobody could, it's free time activity and we all have a real life which always has higher priority.
That's why you need an active team around you.

Maybe what I write sounds too serious, but a moderator is like an alarm system for your house:
- Most of the time it's just there, no trouble, no need to take "real" action
- In case something bad happens: It better should work properly -> double, triple security -> a team.

I'm not sure if you're referring to the solution I proposed or if you were generally referring to my whole approach to the situation when you wrote "startling incompetence"

Both.
1. The suggestion of a compromise/approach to the situation.
You have a pure 100% troll account vs. someone who's only crime was his wish to share his work to the community, you've protected the troll and kicked the good guy in the balls by such a suggestion.
Like you get robbed, on court the judge comes and says: "No, no, no, the robber don't has to go to jail, let's do a compromise instead, ... the next time he robs you, he will just take half of your money, deal? How you like the idea? And now let's take us all by the hands and be friends, OK? Pretty please?"
At first I had an example involving someone get's shot in mind, use your imagination, and of course it's an exaggerated example, it's as ridiculous as that super-gau in moderation. (Sorry, but that's how I see it, with 200 mph frontal against the wall kind of thing, never ever saw something like that before).


2. "solution"
Ok, you say you don't have the knowledge, that's OK, and maybe I am biased as the more technical type of guy, from my point of view he gave all the technical informations, suggestions, links, hints someone could give, he explained his reasons, so ... no need to tell him to change a thing, no need for such a "solution", ... in other words, you've presented a "solution" for a not-existing problem while you ignored the only problem there, the troll.
Btw.: If you was unsure about the technical aspects, ... did you asked him to explain to you what you didn't understand?

I don't know what bad-guys you're referring to.

Really all kinds you can think of, in general.
While my very own opinion is, ... one single person who poison the atmosphere (see troll) is worse than 100 spammers.


To close my post:
I know I can be quite direct, no intention to hurt your feelings, but we are all grown up adults and I hope you understand my criticism, from my point of view you've made a (big) mistake (super-gau), we all make mistakes, the most important is the will to learn from our mistakes (as you mention you are willing).
2 hints if you don't mind:
- If in doubt, try to reach out for a helping hand (it's not a signal of weakness to ask for help, nothing to shame, the understanding of someones own limits in knowledge or experience or whatever is a strength), I am way too busy with all sorts of projects to offer moderation to this place (and fck, I'm too old for this shit ^^ ), but my PM is open, in example the situation above, even if it's just to hear a second opinion, just ask.
- Do your best to get Visitor from Bound Anna on board, talk to the admin or whatever, bribe him if necessary!



p.s.:

Shannon SteelSlave.

An follow-up account? I remember that avatar , but your join date seems to be after my active time over there.


Greetings,
Markus

[Visitor from Bound Anna]

Greetings,
Markus

Thank you for your support, Markus. If I do receive the promotion, I will post as Shannon SteelSlave and likely, use that avatar. This thread now seems to serve as an awareness thread, so no need to tear down.
I have been politely admonished for my actions in responding to these Wendy threads. I will answer for my actions now. I was trying not only to scare Wendy off, but also to dissuade members from possibly feeding into what I genuinely believed to be spam/scam. I used what tools I had available, in this case, the power of the post.
So to Wendy, if and when you come back, promotion or no,

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[tigrotto]

Where?
I cannot recall one example.
Maybe we have a different understanding/definition of the moderator job.

The spam/scam users, my attemp in the thread you criticized as startling incompetence, a thread I removed after a user uploaded someone else's content without their permission to name a few.
Hopefully the fact you can't recall one is that the action was quick enough to not cause too much damage.

(or can you edit/delete them in case of abuse?)

Yes

It's an emergency button, a mod cannot be around 24/7, but once a report is there, when he comes online, instead of doing his usual forum round he sees "report" so that's the first thing to check, a way to make sure action can be taken as soon as possible.

And it's what we (Shattered and I) already do so I don't understand your criticism here. What I wrote is what you said: when we mods aren't around, all the users are "moderators" (and I used " " exactly for that reason) because you notice something wrong so you flag it and we deal with it once we are online again.
Obviously if we see it "live" then we take action, but when we don't we rely on you "being moderators" using the report button to warn us so we immediately go check it when we log in again.

you've protected the troll

I didn't and in fact I wrote he shouldn't have done it and that I'd have removed the post after asking people's opinion on my proposed solution since I don't have knowledge on that.

from my point of view he gave all the technical informations, suggestions, links, hints someone could give, he explained his reasons, so ... no need to tell him to change a thing

And I asked him to just make it neater. 4-5 lines, not a techincal essay so even someone like me could understand it.
Something like

I use these links because....
If you are still afraid of them after my explanation then do xyz and you'll get the bare links

post that at the beginning of the thread so everyone could see it. The end.
I asked people's opinion because asking OP directly would have been like the judge asking the robber if he robbed someone, to use your metaphor.
You could have said

Hey tigrotto your idea is correct

or

Hey tigrotto what he said is already enough for people to get the bare links

and you'd have helped me solve the situation.
Why didn't you do that and instead came here to criticise my way of dealing with that situation? I could have done a better job back then, learn from it and do better next time something similar happened.

but my PM is open, in example the situation above, even if it's just to hear a second opinion, just ask.

Yes I would have had I known this, but at the time it happened I didn't know you had that kind of knowledge. And that's why I asked people to give opinion because I didn't know that user abc had that kind of knowledge.

That's why you need an active team around you.

Yeah but at the same time it's not easy to find people willing to. For example, how many people do you see handing out codes in the reddit thread? Or it took this spamming situation for someone to volunteer to be a mod. (I'm not criticising you for not stepping up sooner, Visitor, just using the situation as an example)
At the same time there doesn't seem to be much moderator work needed (personal opinion) to make us ask ourselves "Maybe we need help?". Of course more active mods is a welcome thing especially if we are from different timezones so we can act even quicker.
Hopefully that explains a bit more what I meant.

There are 4 that I invited that have a similar Mistress/Goddess Wendy username. I'll verify.

job security ensured :D

I'll have to delete that and ban you now since you revealed the secret...

Have a nice day/night everyone!