What's your take on Cockhero & porn? Good? Bad? Peeves?

[dubble]

Does anyone find it odd that there's a lot of interest in cock hero, especially here on Milovana, yet no one has made a real kink version (that I've seen)? This IS a kink site after all, right? I've seen one where there's a nice latex girl at the beginning, but then it gets vanilla. If I knew how to make such vids, I'd def do a few. Femdom themed, kinks, fetishes, some rock or metal music....
To me, most CockHeroes are about all the same & I lose interest fast. Too many/fast scene changes, music I hate, girls I don't find attractive, not kinky enough, no fetishes... all seems vanilla to me. When I'm feeling vanilla, there are one or two I can tolerate, & I prefer POV types of porn where I don't have to look at the guys. Some porn guys are really gross.

Personally, I'm hating a lot of porn. I guess I must be weird. I can't stand where the guy's hands are always getting in the way of the girl/shot when fucking. I don't wanna see the guy's damn hands! Cuff him to the bed already! Geeez! Let the girl be in control for a change! He's always pawing, pinching, spanking, moving her, grabbing, etc. And it's usually about him getting off, not her. To me, there's nothing hotter than making a girl cum. So... why all the selfishness? BTW, I've only been with one woman who liked to be spanked. Most others said they'd tolerate it if it was my thing, one said no way. Nope. Most porn seems to be about the guy... him losing control, being aggressive & dominant in the horniness of lust/passion & the two humping like rabbits. So unoriginal. Boring! While I can be like that, enjoy it on occasion, & can fuck for hours, I usually prefer the woman to be the sexual dominant. It's fucking GREAT being a sex toy for a hot girl, especially when she cums hard & leaves me on the brink, edged, teased & denied! (I'm seeing one of those right now! )

I digress... regarding porn, when the guy is fucking & near to cumming, he pulls out & strokes. What?! I dunno about y'all, but a female body feels best to me when cumming... inside or out. So... why do porn guys insist on pulling out & stroking? REALLY, porn industry? I can use my hand anytime! If I have the choice, & she doesn't want me cumming IN her, I'd at least be thrusting ON her: ass, pussy, chest, legs, abs, hand/gloves, boots/shoes/feet, somewhere, just NOT WITH MY OWN DAMN HAND!! And when the guy is jerking? Cumming on a girl's face or tits does nothing for me, yet it happens in so many porn vids. I want to FEEL HER! Her touch makes me cum so much harder/better. Is that just me?

Then let's talk about the angles. I know they have the guy at odd angles so the viewer can see the action, but to me, it looks so weird & unnatural. It's distracting. It detracts from the girl & the scene. Sometimes he barely penetrates her because of the angle. Or he's not fully hard. Really? A porn guy that can't get hard while trying to do a fuck scene? Or an angle where the penetration & sensations are very minimal at best? Really? *imagines the kids learning to fuck that way*
Gimme a good fucking, titty fuck, ass job, pussy job, ass fuck, footjob, let me cum inside, just SOMETHING besides using my own hand! I don't get to feel/cum using her sexy body anytime I want, so why would I choose my own hand if I don't have to? Hell, even let her tease/edge/deny me & lock me up! Am I the odd one out, or...?

What are your thoughts? Ideas? Peeves? What would you like to see more of/less of? Cheers everybody!

[Electro]

I'm confused about porn in some of the same ways too. Most of it, the stuff that's everywhere even though I try to skip past it for something better, seems to put its focus on the guy, his junk, and weird whiny male moaning. Usually it gets mixed into Cock Heros that have better elements or tacked onto the end. I have plenty of video titles that I've modified the ending of the filename to "CumBetween1h12m45to1h13m45s.mp4" or "becomesDickyAt45mins". A super creative video with hot chicks where everyone is about the same age and then 3/4 of the way through its suddenly an obese dude 30 years older with a super fit hot chick where the gray haired old guy is breathing like he's dying and moaning louder than the chick and the shot is aimed at his junk and not the chick's body and her face and reaction is pretty much hidden by poor camerawork. I don't get that, but it's common so I guess people are into it or they'd be more selective over putting it in their cock heros. I personally prefer all of the chick(s) without the dude and in general find penis>vagina sex to be a lazy default commonly without creativity and I'm not sure how that doesn't quickly get boring for those who prefer the content. I think the 'pull it out and stroke' stuff is probably because these are porn stars and they are trying to stay safer in case the birth control fails and because I suppose guys are into seeing another man's jizz on a chicks face or tits while they hear a guy making sounds that resemble pain more to me than pleasure.

There are kink themes in videos here though, some without dudes in them, but most do. I started listing them, but then wiped out my list because I know there are other threads with this and I really don't want to post stuff and leave out a really good creator without realizing it. I had to do the hide and seek to find the stuff I like and you've been around long enough to where you've probably found similar stuff.

At some point I'll figure out video editing and have the time to put together a mashup of solo and lesbian, bondage, S&M, fitness, and rough chick stuff. Video editing used to be easy, but the days of MGI and Sony Vegas seem to be gone and learning video editing software isn't intuitive like it used to be with MGI VideoWave where you could put everything in order of the files/clips you want and cut sections out and export it. If it was easy, I would just cut the scenes I don't like out of the stuff that I do, but it's weird that it seems like it would be easier to just make a stack of timestamps and load it into a batch file for FFMPEG to do the job within the command line and do the same with the stimfile too since doing that with the funscript file seems to be more difficult to patch back together in OpenFunScripter but not impossible.

[Ghingis]

I do not have a problem with the level of kink in most CH, but I'm fine with vanilla only content, so that must be the reason.
But I agree, given the community and some kinks that I see here, it is fairly vanilla.
I do like the progressively changing content in them if they have that.
My issue is that softcore is not nearly enough stimulus, so if there is a CH with 15min soft core in the beginning, I have to scroll through it. 5-6 min is okay, but after that I want to see at least some tits and pussy preferably stinulated
(Softcore CH can be great after a week or more denial, but I don't usually partake in that )

I couldn't agree more, that loking a veiny dick in full plane, stroked by its owner and hearing the ape grunting is not something I want to cum to. It ruined several CHs for me. It feels like switching to gay porn.. it does nothing for me..

Seeing a man enjoying themselves with a girl can be interesting and arousing at times, but most of the time what turns me on is the girl having a good time. So if the finishing scene lacks this aspect it won't do it for me.

Regarding funscripts, it wouldn't be too hard to stich them together.
There are only 2 issues.
There will be cases, when the last position of the previous script is too different fron the first position of the next script and if they are close together, the toy must make a quick move that they can't. Not a big issue, but can be off-putting if the scenes are otherwise slow.
(I'm not sure what will happen with estim, but you could cut the stim audio, just like the video.)
The other is, you would need the exact cut times with millisecond precisions otherwise the scripts won't align anymore.
But since the content of the funscript is basically a list of timestamps and positions, it is technically not hard to stich them together.

[Bondageman]

I completely agree with you Dubble. I've long been amazed at the lack of femdom-themed cockheros. To me, femdom lends itself perfectly to the cockhero concept - sexy dominant women trying to force you to cum so that you fail the challenge and have to endure some sort of punishment as a result. But there's essentially nothing like this out there.

Cockhero Descent 2 (which you may have been referring to) is the closest I've ever found to matching this.

[boundupone]

I have often wondered about the lack of hard kink CH style videos. I assumed (probably wrongly) that the people making the CH videos are younger (based on having time to pour into creating these masterpieces) and maybe that also means they have not yet started down the kink path too much (again my observation that it seems to be as you spend more time you go down different harder paths).

It could also be a lack of HQ content (not many sites were shooting in 1080 for kink content), or maybe just difficulty to edit things down into a coherent CH style video based only on hard kink stuff.

But I would love to see more real hard kink CH or even shorter PMV style videos.

But, having done bits and pieces myself, I take my hat off to anyone attempting any sort of CH or other video, as the complexity and workload to gather the clips, edit them, select and edit music track etc is ridiculous.

[cristovaop]

To me, femdom lends itself perfectly to the cockhero concept - sexy dominant women trying to force you to cum so that you fail the challenge and have to endure some sort of punishment as a result.

Hard agree. I usually only enjoy CH with a story (Once Upon a Succubi Land, Corrupted Castle, Fantasy, Sword Quest...) that involvers hard femdom to worse fate upon failure.

[tioafa4]

There's a pair of videos called Cock Hero Latex and Cock Hero Latex 2 (IIRC) that are not full femdom, but have significant femdom content. It's thin on the ground in general, though, and I have found the lack of videos suited to my tastes to be a barrier to spending much time with the genre. There are a decent amount of PMVs with femdom and other kink themes, at least, if you check out PMVHaven.

(Personally, I've been a little bemused to see that some of the leading creators in the space are focused on what seems, to me, to be a mix of fairly vanilla clips and a surprising amount of recreational drug usage. I'm bi and I haven't even used poppers. There's a whole world out there that has nothing to do with me and that's beautiful)