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Any christians?

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i wonder how christians think abt webtease / tease n denial :-/
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There are a lot of different christs churches outside. Some are more tollerant and some very conservative. I don't think a very conservative church would tollerate this kind of sexual roleplaying. But I don't know because I am an atheist.
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For christians, the people who follow Jesus and the bible. Sex or any sexual contact before marriage, and that is not intended to have kids, is a sin.
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Actually, Jim I believe that is generally the Roman Catholic line of thinking, that any sexual contact that is not intended to have kids is a sin. Watch Monty Python's Meaning of Life, the scene where the Protestants look down on the Catholics because they have 30+kids versus the two times the Protestant couple has had sex for their two children. The Protestants *could* have had sex more, according to their beliefs, but *didn't.* And there are many different view on what constitutes sexual contact, according to Protestants. Dancing, for some denominations, is still immoral. I went to two different Southern Baptist- affiliated high schools, and at both dancing was a big no-no. I personally think it is an issue of purity. Jesus said if you have looked at another lustfully, you have committed adultery. So we're talking more about mental thoughts and experiences than actions. Yes, full on penis-to-vagina is obviously right out, but what about oral? Petting? Kissing? I think it matter what the two have done before, and what they're comfortable doing. Personally, I'm a virgin and have not really done anything "past" making out because I'm not comfortable with it. I don't think it's an issue of relative morality, of course. There's always a defined right and wrong. The only thing dependant on individuals is the actual characteristics of the individuals.

I didn't mean to speak this much, but that's what one Christian thinks.
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So one can't have sex with his wife unless they want to get a kid, is that right?

That's the worst thing I ever heard, is it even possible?

EDIT: lol, think of the intense teasing lifestyle you could have with that religion.
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havemercy wrote:EDIT: lol, think of the intense teasing lifestyle you could have with that religion.
That's exactly the point. I've lost count of the endless T&D stories I've heard where the girl was devout Catholic, but never missed a chance to get her b/f turned on.

In reality I think it depends on the character of the person more than on his or her faith. But here's what I think Catholic doctrine would say on these topics:

Webtease: Bad, masturbation is forbidden, period.
Tease&Denial: Well, another word for it is Chastity and that is actually asked of you as a Catholic, so they will be ok with the basic idea, but not with the Teasing part, because as Jim said, only sexual activity that is allowed is procreation.

Don't know about America, but I have yet to meet a German or British Catholic below the age of 100 who takes these rules that seriously. I mean everybody knows that if you're "somehow" pregnant and you're Catholic, you have to marry someone *fast*, right? ;-)

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seraph0x wrote: I mean seriously, if I was all-knowing and all-powerful, why would I logically contradict myself over a hundred times in a single book?
God did not write the bible. the bible was written by people about god and jesus. do u have any specific contradiction in mind, just do we can see an example of what u mean?
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First of all, I'm sorry I even wrote that there. That was stupid and must have been insulting to you. Old atheist habit. Advocatus diaboli. :-/

But now that you brought it up, I owe you an response.
Jim wrote:God did not write the bible. the bible was written by people about god and jesus. do u have any specific contradiction in mind, just do we can see an example of what u mean?
"The words of Yahweh are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times" --Psalms 12:6.

"So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it" --Isaiah 55:11.

The bible is "God's word", so it is very much claimed to be holy. Even though the Lord had it written through the hands of prophets.

I'm not going to through specific passages here. You can read it yourself or if you're lazy, http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ have a very detailed analysis of both Testaments.

Please know that I do absolutely respect Christians and their faith. Everyone has a right to believe in whatever they want and I won't try to convince anyone. When I say that I found contradictions I mean I found passages that to me seem contradicting others. The human mind is very powerful. If I want to find contradictions, I will. If I don't, I won't.

Life is too short to spend it discussing religion. So, read the bible if you want, but this site is not the place for discussing it. Feel free to continue this via PM, but as far as this thread is concerned please get back on topic. Thanks.
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Well, I'm a Christian, believe it or not.

Keep in mind there are three branches of Christianity, each with various denominations.

As a result, there is no hard and fast interpretation on this, only trends.

The only definatesare:
1) If you are married, you can only get it on with your other half.
2) If you are not married, you cannot get it on with someone who is.

The rest depends on denomination.

Either way, you don't have to be Christian, or eveen religious, to be puritanical.
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Re: Any christians?

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pleezz wrote:i wonder how christians think abt webtease / tease n denial :-/
I get off on it. :-P

I admit to not being the greatest 'christian' in the world, as I can generally be a bit of an arsehole, besides the whole drinking/drug taking/promiscuous sex I had (But hey, I was young :whistle: ), but people have this idea that Christianity, and religion in general is basically a bunch of zealots and stupid followers moaning and complaining about everything. Which isn't the case.

Yeah. I'm Christian. Nothing at all against webteases, besides transexual webteases, but that's just because it's not my thing, lol.
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Post by lowielowieke »

what about the weddingnight after getting married the first night ur supposed to have sex but it isnt for making children.
then you cant even have sex on that day cause its not for making children
what we do in life, echoes in eternity
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There was this rather silly site, I cant remember the name right now... who told about the opinion of the "Church" concerning various sexual practices, from masturbation to cuckholding. Some really creepy things in there.."oral sex is better than masturbation because the semen is not spilled".
Being a Christian is for some of us a default thing. Christianity is not quite a religion on which people embark willingly. I am Orthodox and I was baptised in this rite when I was 3 months old. So it was not my choice. I choose to explore my inner desires and the ones of others. Life is beautiful, no matter what religion says.
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I find the central symbol of the Christian faith, the crucifix or cross, grossly offensive. It depicts the torture to death of a nearly naked man.
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Diddums, I agree on the fact that the crucifix is wrongly used in Christian ethos. They are not mean people, they just should work a bit more on their manners.
Indeed, there should be a measure in all our deeds, in all our displays of power, of veneration or pleasure.
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Post by Jenna »

kinkydomina wrote:"oral sex is better than masturbation because the semen is not spilled".
I think some teenage boy put that site up to show his Christian girlfriend so she’d give him a little head on prom night.

"No Heather, you can't spit that out. It's a sin."
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