[RELEASE][FEEDBACK]Hero Corruption V1.45

[Vicissitudo]

I've been trying to play this game so many times through many different versions (since the very early "legacy" one) and I always ended with frustration.
I can't understand if it's just being extremely unlucky or maybe it's me who didn't get how to play properly. Maybe both.

However all the times ends up with:

- Some glorious encounter which it's impossible to beat/escape just appears out of the blue and beats me.
- I get kidnapped by the nuns which ask me for too high amout of money and I end up there for the eternity.
- If I escape, can't join the Nun anymmore to lower my stats/can't join the pub anymore to earn money.
- I get kidnapped by the amazons too early in the game.

In the end I've never been able to get too far, never reached the castle, never been able to beat all the bosses.

Any tip?

[AFro62]

I've been trying to play this game so many times through many different versions (since the very early "legacy" one) and I always ended with frustration.
I can't understand if it's just being extremely unlucky or maybe it's me who didn't get how to play properly. Maybe both.

However all the times ends up with:

- Some glorious encounter which it's impossible to beat/escape just appears out of the blue and beats me.
- I get kidnapped by the nuns which ask me for too high amout of money and I end up there for the eternity.
- If I escape, can't join the Nun anymmore to lower my stats/can't join the pub anymore to earn money.
- I get kidnapped by the amazons too early in the game.

In the end I've never been able to get too far, never reached the castle, never been able to beat all the bosses.

Any tip?

Same here. I've played hundreds of times since this tease became a thing. Never had a good ending, never reached the castle. It does get frustrating at times and makes me just not want to play anymore. Still wishing for an easy mode so I can see all the content I've been missing

[Errant_]

I've been trying to play this game so many times through many different versions (since the very early "legacy" one) and I always ended with frustration.
I can't understand if it's just being extremely unlucky or maybe it's me who didn't get how to play properly. Maybe both.

However all the times ends up with:

- Some glorious encounter which it's impossible to beat/escape just appears out of the blue and beats me.
- I get kidnapped by the nuns which ask me for too high amout of money and I end up there for the eternity.
- If I escape, can't join the Nun anymmore to lower my stats/can't join the pub anymore to earn money.
- I get kidnapped by the amazons too early in the game.

In the end I've never been able to get too far, never reached the castle, never been able to beat all the bosses.

Any tip?

Same here. I've played hundreds of times since this tease became a thing. Never had a good ending, never reached the castle. It does get frustrating at times and makes me just not want to play anymore. Still wishing for an easy mode so I can see all the content I've been missing

Sorry to hear both your struggles despite your incredible persistence! Let me give you some guidance (mostly answering Vicissitudo's specific issues, but let me know if you have specific questions)

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It sounds like most of your deaths are due to preventable special events:

- For the nun, the simplest way to avoid that event is to not go to the church so much. 2-3 times a run should be plenty. If you're going 5+ times, it's a bad sign -- you need to adjust your play to limit the addiction gain (mainly, shorten fights), and farm more potions (to get more blue potions).

- For the amazons, I believe if your stamina is high, it's very unlikely you get caught by their trap. So don't explore unless you're at 90-100 stamina (this is generally good advice anyways, except in special situations).

As for "glorious encounter which it's impossible to beat" -- are you referring to the boss encounters, or just random enemies? For bosses, those are almost 100% avoidable until you're ready. If it's random enemies, you may be pushing to the more difficult areas too quickly. Most of the time, if you can beat one enemy in a particular area, you should be strong enough to beat the rest, and vice versa, unless your addictions are very skewed towards one in particular. Some of the enemies do require different approaches that you kinda have to learn with trial and error, but most of them shouldn't result in losing outright, just having a tough fight and gaining more lust/addiction than you expected. Also, keeping one green potion is handy as an emergency measure to save you from an otherwise losing encounter.

For most of the game, you really want to optimize for killing enemies quickly and safely, so don't be afraid to stay on forest/grove for a long time. If you don't already know, you get a guaranteed potion after beating 2 enemies in a day (and each enemy after that), so try to get at least 1-2 potions per day. Get backpack ASAP so you can store them instead of drinking them, then time your drinks carefully (e.g. don't drink 2 red/purp until you have 1 blue to offset the corruption/addiction gain). Try to stay at or close to 0 corruption at all times.

Going along with "focus on killing enemies quickly" -- do everything you can to up your attack. If you find a weapon recipe that will increase your attack, focus on building that weapon ASAP. In the normal mode post-game, prioritize increasing attack over everything else. Perk-wise, max out attack or stamina first, then the other. The other perks are mostly irrelevant (you could make a slight argument for gold being okay).

In terms of stamina management, try to keep your stamina >= 80 at all times, even during a fight (exception: your last fight of the day, or your last hit of a fight, you can push it a little more). Yes, this means waiting quite often during a fight. But it will work out. Prefer light attacks over strong attacks, except in special circumstances that I will not reveal . And, again, do not go exploring without 90+ stamina.

Once you've buffed your attack a bit, and hopefully kept your addictions low, you should be strong enough to start taking on some of the bosses. There are definitely weaker and stronger ones, and you'll learn which ones you should prioritize. If you started on the grove, you can use the ancient sword to take on the bosses a little earlier than usual. The bosses should give you enough exp/money to get a lot stronger, and start spending more time in the harder areas.

Hopefully that helps! There's a lot more subtle things you can do too (especially as you start gearing up for castle runs), but this should help you make progress!

[diogaoo]

Well, after my regular run of the new version, I'm happy to report it is possible to clear castle in 2 runs from a fresh game!

Game 1: Got pretty lucky with early scarecrow and ice pick. I think I had a shot of actually clearing castle but I ran out of time before I could get the last map piece. I stand by that with a little luck, it is possible to win in 1 run! Ended with 647 points.

Game 2: pretty standard game but couldn't get a good weapon (and never got a soul!), threw a bunch of money at the recipe vendor and got ice pick, and the rest is history! Ended with 1112 score.

These are, again, excellent scores Errant. Would you mind sharing your strategy during encounters? What type of Attack do you use and/or when do you prefer to Wait?
By reading your next comment, I assume you're only using Normal Attacks instead of Heavy Blows, is that correct?

(Side note, on the final castle enemy, it seems like the "Just let me do it" move might have a bug? The "resist - 20 stamina" option doesn't actually seem to consume stamina?)

Yep, should be fixed now ! Thanks

By the way -- what determines whether a fight takes 1 or 2 hours? Is it based on the number of turns spent?

All encounters should last two hours, unless you manage to successfully escape, in which case it should only last one hour.

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Errant wrote a great walkthrough with very good tips, I have no doubt that by following these instructions you will be challenging the castle in no time.
However, once you get the hang of the game, be sure to develop your own strategies, I believe that trying new, possible OP builds is one of the most fun elements in a playthrough

Just an addendum:
The nuns event is there for a reason, you shouldn't be spending all your money at the Church because you need that gold to develop your character (Buy recipes, materials, potions, etc).
Also, the Amazons start kidnapping the player on day 7th and forward, so you may want to keep an eye on that.
Good luck !

[nerdyVanilla]

On my last play through, while using the "Holy Necklace" I noticed some that the lust would sometimes be a float.
Also noticed that the damage reported might be a float when using the "Thirsty Dragon". I think it happened for a lot of the fights, but I really noticed it fighting Abbby and Gabby. Their HP seemed to stay as an integer.

[Errant_]

These are, again, excellent scores Errant. Would you mind sharing your strategy during encounters? What type of Attack do you use and/or when do you prefer to Wait?
By reading your next comment, I assume you're only using Normal Attacks instead of Heavy Blows, is that correct?

That's mostly right. My standard fight cadence is 1 normal attack, 1 wait, repeat until dead. If I know heavy attack will give me the killing blow, I'll use heavy instead. The goal is not just to keep the attack damage high, but also to ensure that you end the fight with 80-90 stamina so that you can rest 0-1 times before you can go exploring again. This is something I didn't emphasize as much in the guide above, but it's a very big deal when you're playing to beat the castle. When castle is your goal, time is the #1 constraint, so everything is optimized around that.
The normal+wait strategy obviously is less applicable for the last fight of the day, or if you're just trying to kill an enemy ASAP for a specific reason. But if you're doing that, you have to be more careful with your math to not get bit by the diminishing attack damage

There is another dirty trick I recently discovered, but I'll PM you with that one

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Good to know regarding encounter length! I could have sworn I had some won fights end up taking 1 hour, but I guess they must have been escapes.

[diogaoo]

On my last play through, while using the "Holy Necklace" I noticed some that the lust would sometimes be a float.
Also noticed that the damage reported might be a float when using the "Thirsty Dragon". I think it happened for a lot of the fights, but I really noticed it fighting Abbby and Gabby. Their HP seemed to stay as an integer.

Hi Nerdy. To avoid working with three versions of the game at the same time, I'm going to skip this fix for v1.40, but this afternoon I'll see what could be causing this bug and fix it in the upcoming releases. Thanks for the report and let me know if you find anything else.

Also, I noticed that you didn't gave feedback on the gameplay itself, you don't have to, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on possible changes, criticisms, suggestions or anything that you feel like sharing. Thanks again !

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[edeioh]

Well, the game is amazing as always!!

Just one question, because i never understood the scarecrow event, only i know that after defeat her, i get the soul

[diogaoo]

Well, the game is amazing as always!!

Just one question, because i never understood the scarecrow event, only i know that after defeat her, i get the soul

Thanks edeioh !

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understood the question.

The only way to obtain the Soul of the Scarecrow is by defeating her at the event. There a

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2% chance that you will find her everytime you explore the Forest and the Grove. After finding her, you have to keep choosing the Wait command until your character passes out (screen goes black)
Following that, a couple of images will appear while your hero is passed out. The higher your Corruption, the harder it will be to wake up. If you reach an Orgasm, a Bad End will be triggered, otherwise, you get to face her.
Attacking one time should end the encounter and get you the Soul

[edeioh]

Well, the game is amazing as always!!

Just one question, because i never understood the scarecrow event, only i know that after defeat her, i get the soul

Thanks edeioh !

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understood the question.

The only way to obtain the Soul of the Scarecrow is by defeating her at the event. There a

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2% chance that you will find her everytime you explore the Forest and the Grove. After finding her, you have to keep choosing the Wait command until your character passes out (screen goes black)
Following that, a couple of images will appear while your hero is passed out. The higher your Corruption, the harder it will be to wake up. If you reach an Orgasm, a Bad End will be triggered, otherwise, you get to face her.
Attacking one time should end the encounter and get you the Soul

Thankkss!! That was what I wanted to know!

[nerdyVanilla]

Also, I noticed that you didn't gave feedback on the gameplay itself, you don't have to, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on possible changes, criticisms, suggestions or anything that you feel like sharing. Thanks again !

I like the gameplay. As for a suggestions:
* the girl with the talisman always seems to be in the Deep Forest.
* When you defeat Kira, is it possible to list the addiction level similar to the church in the city?

Now for a possible bug:
I was fighting Diana in the castle. I attacked her to take her below 0 hp and she would revive, but have a negative hp value.

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Diana HP: -10 Dildo Load: -10

I was trying to recover stamina with a wait and defeated her without doing another attack.