FB: The Estim Tower

[lolol2]

Going with the GuideMe version is the best way, I'm highly afraid of touching the nyx editor again, better never touch a running system.
The GuideMe version shouldn't have any problems, I let the tease run over hours for testing in the past without any crashes.

Any yes please go with the GuideMe version in the downloadlink on first page, don't use any tools to download the tease.

[hotiger1]

edger477 thank you so much, I just didn't see that spoiler. You saved my day

[edger477]

Going with the GuideMe version is the best way, I'm highly afraid of touching the nyx editor again, better never touch a running system.
The GuideMe version shouldn't have any problems, I let the tease run over hours for testing in the past without any crashes.

Any yes please go with the GuideMe version in the downloadlink on first page, don't use any tools to download the tease.

Thanks for checking up on this thread...
I wasn't able to find "endless mode" button or switch in Guideme version. Is there supposed to be one?

EDIT: ok so I found Extras button when using v 1.4 xml file, it is not present in the v 2.3 one

[lolol2]

After 3,5 years I kind of forgot about... but yeah I guess that is the reason why in the last 2.3 version are both .xml files.
I guess there was a reason why I never added the endless mode after the 2.0 update... maybe it was not possible or would have taken way to much time.

[Jeledrick]

First of all I wanted to join in with those who praise your work. The pictures and moods are perfectly selected and created. I am incredibly impressed by the effort you must have put into this. Fabulous achievement - thank you for creating and sharing!

I am using the guide me versions and I find they work nicely. The result is alright with my e-stim system A, they do not work satisfyingly with my 2B, but I will try to tweak the sound files to get there. My 2B is relatively new, so I have to find out first, what works there. Any hints from those who have gone down that path before me are very much welcome! It is my favourite e-stim tease, so it is more than worth the effort.

[edger477]

First of all I wanted to join in with those who praise your work. The pictures and moods are perfectly selected and created. I am incredibly impressed by the effort you must have put into this. Fabulous achievement - thank you for creating and sharing!

I am using the guide me versions and I find they work nicely. The result is alright with my e-stim system A, they do not work satisfyingly with my 2B, but I will try to tweak the sound files to get there. My 2B is relatively new, so I have to find out first, what works there. Any hints from those who have gone down that path before me are very much welcome! It is my favourite e-stim tease, so it is more than worth the effort.

Which 2b version you have? Latest beta is behaving weird with stereo input.

[Jeledrick]

First of all I wanted to join in with those who praise your work. The pictures and moods are perfectly selected and created. I am incredibly impressed by the effort you must have put into this. Fabulous achievement - thank you for creating and sharing!

I am using the guide me versions and I find they work nicely. The result is alright with my e-stim system A, they do not work satisfyingly with my 2B, but I will try to tweak the sound files to get there. My 2B is relatively new, so I have to find out first, what works there. Any hints from those who have gone down that path before me are very much welcome! It is my favourite e-stim tease, so it is more than worth the effort.

Which 2b version you have? Latest beta is behaving weird with stereo input.

I have the 2.106 - tried the 2.122b, did work somewhat better with the right settings in advanced stereo (C-Map and Auto-Power, if I recall right) but still way worse than the A-Box, so I returned to 2.106. So - might be the output from my notebook sound chip.

[edger477]

I have the 2.106 - tried the 2.122b, did work somewhat better with the right settings in advanced stereo (C-Map and Auto-Power, if I recall right) but still way worse than the A-Box, so I returned to 2.106. So - might be the output from my notebook sound chip.

The 2B files (that you replace in downloaded version) are for 2.106 (and older). If it is "better" with 2.122, it might be that you have "normal" files (for DIY). 2.122 is dangerous with files designed for old 2B, the pain sections are way too strong.

Did you download 2B files and replaced them correctly?

[Jeledrick]

The 2B files (that you replace in downloaded version) are for 2.106 (and older). If it is "better" with 2.122, it might be that you have "normal" files (for DIY). 2.122 is dangerous with files designed for old 2B, the pain sections are way too strong.

Did you download 2B files and replaced them correctly?

I think so - took those from "louderpainfiles" which came with the download of the original package and copied them to the main audio - replacing those leading with an "x", presumably the pain files, with others of the same names but different sizes. There were 90 altogether and the louder ones are in total about three times the size. Checked that before first use. Are there other ones? Especially for 2B, maybe? I downloaded the original file again and those are the files, same sizes. I do not find any other soundfiles than the originals and these ones. So that is not it.

Seems I am still missing something crucial.

[lolol2]

Check this out, there was a special version for the 2B but the download link seems offline.
Maybe anyone has them downloaded and can reupload.

viewtopic.php?p=288055#p288055

Edit:
I found this in my MEGA folder... not 100% sure if this is the package but filename seems like this.
So try with caution

https://mega.nz/file/MZ1jRQoK#6v-J4cD4T ... 3trxYIz8ZM


Edit2:
The louder pain files are just the same files, only in louder, no changes made.
The file size is maybe bigger because different bitrates.

[edger477]

I think so - took those from "louderpainfiles" which came with the download of the original package and copied them to the main audio - replacing those leading with an "x", presumably the pain files, with others of the same names but different sizes. There were 90 altogether and the louder ones are in total about three times the size. Checked that before first use. Are there other ones? Especially for 2B, maybe? I downloaded the original file again and those are the files, same sizes. I do not find any other soundfiles than the originals and these ones. So that is not it.

Seems I am still missing something crucial.

You seem to have done everything right. Only remaining "crucial" part is to properly calibrate 2B. For teases that have device calibration before connecting electrodes, you need to increase volume on your sound card until the bars on 2B are almost full (when on device calibration signal before connecting electrodes). If you increase it over that, you will reduce difference between normal and pain signals. If you reduce it so that bars on 2B are not full then difference between normal and pain signals will be greater (pain will be stronger).

As this tease does not have device calibration step where signal on max strength (basically pain signal) is playing, if you set volume during calibration to the full bar on 2B, then whatever output you set on A/B channels of 2B - that is the maximum you get. For this tease, you could go to test pain files, and then when it plays default ones, set sound card volume so that bars on 2B display are close to full... then go to normal calibration, set the 2B knobs to pleasurable level, and go back to test pain to see if it is bearable and "painful".

You could repeat this with the 2B files lolol2 posted above, I just imported that to my mega, I will do the same when I am back home.

[Jeledrick]

Check this out, there was a special version for the 2B but the download link seems offline.
Maybe anyone has them downloaded and can reupload.

viewtopic.php?p=288055#p288055

Edit:
I found this in my MEGA folder... not 100% sure if this is the package but filename seems like this.
So try with caution

https://mega.nz/file/MZ1jRQoK#6v-J4cD4T ... 3trxYIz8ZM


Edit2:
The louder pain files are just the same files, only in louder, no changes made.
The file size is maybe bigger because different bitrates.

Thank you very much for your assistance, lolol2 - especially since you have been off the development of this beauty for so very long.

Downloaded the new sound data from mega and put it in - it is 330 instead of 375 files. Easily explained, only 45 instead of 90 pain files. But that can be helped. I will try however long this works without crashing and once it does, I will just fill the gaps with doubles of the pain files I have. There are the "x" files, the "xh" ones are missing, so that can be helped. Since they are all pain files I guess they will work, even if not in sync with the narration. I listened in on the original ones, they are considerably different files but I guess I will just see how this plays out.

If anyone is willing to put up his complete 2b sound set, that would of course be very much appreciated.

If I am again missing something - please correct me!

[Jeledrick]

You seem to have done everything right. Only remaining "crucial" part is to properly calibrate 2B. For teases that have device calibration before connecting electrodes, you need to increase volume on your sound card until the bars on 2B are almost full (when on device calibration signal before connecting electrodes). If you increase it over that, you will reduce difference between normal and pain signals. If you reduce it so that bars on 2B are not full then difference between normal and pain signals will be greater (pain will be stronger).

As this tease does not have device calibration step where signal on max strength (basically pain signal) is playing, if you set volume during calibration to the full bar on 2B, then whatever output you set on A/B channels of 2B - that is the maximum you get. For this tease, you could go to test pain files, and then when it plays default ones, set sound card volume so that bars on 2B display are close to full... then go to normal calibration, set the 2B knobs to pleasurable level, and go back to test pain to see if it is bearable and "painful".

You could repeat this with the 2B files lolol2 posted above, I just imported that to my mega, I will do the same when I am back home.

Thank you so much for all the help, edger477

The insights on how the calibration works out on the 2B is very appreciated, I wasn't aware of that. Having been estimming for a long time, my recent experience with sound sources is limited as I learn every day anew. And while the e-stim systems devices seem to be the best available to me, they pose some challenge handling them.

[edger477]

There are the "x" files, the "xh" ones are missing

This tease has "normal" and "alternate" pain files... and it says to use "normal" ones, so when you copy over the files, I would assume 45 "alternate" pain files remain as they were... Just use normal pain files and ignore the difference :)

[lolol2]

As this tease does not have device calibration step where signal on max strength (basically pain signal) is playing, if you set volume during calibration to the full bar on 2B, then whatever output you set on A/B channels of 2B - that is the maximum you get.

DAMN!
Thanks, now I finally understand why other teases have this 100% volume file playing while calibration.
I didn't know that is is for calibrate the 2B device.

This tease has "normal" and "alternate" pain files... and it says to use "normal" ones, so when you copy over the files, I would assume 45 "alternate" pain files remain as they were... Just use normal pain files and ignore the difference :)

Exactly.
Don't use the alternative pain files when you replaced the 2B version and want that the tease use them.
You can just let the xh files in the folder or delete them, they will only be used when you pic the alternate stuff in the settings.