[RELEASE] Estim Hack

[leezer3]

Selecting DIY with the Coyote / XToys seems to work relatively fine here from a relatively short session.

Based upon Estim Chatroom experience, it definitely does do pain, but attempts to smooth it out somewhat.
*Might* be better trying the 2B files in light of the smoothing, but I'm happy enough with where it is. YMMV, experiment

[edger477]

So, currently having another go and finding some of the extreme signals:

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CandyKiss - first session - extremely high power as it starts, then some other bursts during the session;
CandyKiss - second session - starts quite intense then becomes more subtle;
Rosettte - second session - some extreme signals at several points;
Lady_Byte - second session - there's at least one extreme burst - seems to be on low frequency signals;
Mystame - second session - some quite intense signals, but bearable and I suspect designed to be that way?

I am now interested in what device you have? Which amp, which transformers, do you have parallel/series resistors?

[bindweed2007]

Rillo

Congratulations. Absolutely mesmeric. A long time Milovanian, I am not a frequent poster but Estim Hack prompted me to post and express my gratitude. At age 62+ I have achieved an estim HFO on a 2B(some sessions 4- 6 hrs) for the last 10 days consecutively while I awaited the release of Estim Hack. Estim Hack has had me on the edge of my seat at full attention and aching to cum, but I am controlling my urge with enormous restraint. It is fantastic, the selection of signals is the best I can recall.

While I don't wish to dismiss any other posters comments about the signals, my 22 years plus of stimming has taught me how important trode placement can be and only minor adjustments and not being fully hard can have such an influence on the feeling of a signal. Even with the supposedly same set up day to day. Experience and minor adjustment can make all the difference. All I can say to anyone who is not experiencing what I am from Estim Hack is persevere, this is a masterpiece. Rillo you are in my master stimmer premier league and currently right at the top. Well done. While I hope there will be more teases from you (I hope so) I'm not sure I will be able to leave Estim Hack alone. I'm addicted.

[HomerJayS]

I also want to thank you @Rillo, I have just been playing (MK312) for 2 hours and must say it is awsome! To me this tease has the best feeling signals! -With no interruptions between the signals which many teases have, unfortunately. - Don't get me wrong, I am very thankful for every posted tease and thank every author who does what I couldn't. I just wanted to say that this tease is awsome!

One question concerning the gameplay:

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Do I miss anything or is the main task to check Haxorella's app to be avaliable, contact the girls and checking the messages on the computer plus calling girls directly? I just do not want to miss anything ;)

[darthjj]

It seems like some DIY units have issues with a set of files while other DIY units don’t.
I may look into making a DIY alternate option if people can report the troubled files and their device types.

Based on some experiments it seems like people experience frequency changes differently, even with very similar DIY boxes.. Some people, including me, feel like the volume/intensity increases when the carrier frequency gets lower. While some others did not seem to feel this effect. No idea if it's caused by some subtle hardware difference, electrode placement or our nerve systems being different.

Coincidentally I also felt like some of the "tease" signals were _very_ extreme, like constant on high intensity. Did not write down the names but I think it was the same as that other person wrote. Maybe you could put the mp3 files on mega or in a torrent and we could help you debug the issue?

I also keep getting the Rosette training session over and over again, either as a random in haxorella's app or when calling her. Doesn't seem like it's possible to progress this one to the next stage

[darthjj]

So, currently having another go and finding some of the extreme signals:

Spoiler: show

CandyKiss - first session - extremely high power as it starts, then some other bursts during the session;
CandyKiss - second session - starts quite intense then becomes more subtle;
Rosettte - second session - some extreme signals at several points;
Lady_Byte - second session - there's at least one extreme burst - seems to be on low frequency signals;
Mystame - second session - some quite intense signals, but bearable and I suspect designed to be that way?

I am now interested in what device you have? Which amp, which transformers, do you have parallel/series resistors?

I'm having the same experience. Playing CandyKiss second session right now, and it definitely feels like very low frequencies, like sub 100Hz, in the beginning. The other ones were less obvious, but I would guess they use a slightly lower carrier frequency which causes them to feel more intense for some people.

My stereostim uses:
S.M.S.L SA-36pro 2x20W
Omnitronic ELA T10, connected with 8 Ohm towards amp, and 1.25W on other side.
Serial resistors, nothing in parallel

[Rillo]

Thank you all for the detailed feedback. I think I now have a list of all the low-freq files that are the issues.

My plan moving forward:

• All the "problem" files will be kept on the ET312B "track". If you have a DIY device and have not had issues with the files you can still play them this way.

• I will replace the low-freq files for DIY devices, likely within the next 12 hours.

[Rillo]

It seems like some DIY units have issues with a set of files while other DIY units don’t.
I may look into making a DIY alternate option if people can report the troubled files and their device types.

Based on some experiments it seems like people experience frequency changes differently, even with very similar DIY boxes.. Some people, including me, feel like the volume/intensity increases when the carrier frequency gets lower. While some others did not seem to feel this effect. No idea if it's caused by some subtle hardware difference, electrode placement or our nerve systems being different.

Coincidentally I also felt like some of the "tease" signals were _very_ extreme, like constant on high intensity. Did not write down the names but I think it was the same as that other person wrote. Maybe you could put the mp3 files on mega or in a torrent and we could help you debug the issue?

I also keep getting the Rosette training session over and over again, either as a random in haxorella's app or when calling her. Doesn't seem like it's possible to progress this one to the next stage

For Rosette, that is likely just a string of "bad luck". If you have torture sessions off, she will only answer with training when reaching out to her ATM (I will likely expand this to include Teases as well). If you are looking for her Tease, randomly through the App provides the best probability.

[boundupone]

I wonder if due to wide variation in feedback we should all try and provide more details when reporting on teases in a standard template to capture all details.

For example -

Box = ET312B
Trode placement = Channel A = Cock head, Channel B = Anal, Common = base of cock
Setup = Triphase with black wires joined
Settings = Audio 3, MA at 12 O'clock

Perhaps even a summary of the electrodes themselves as 1 strand of thin copper wire will feel very different than a thick conductive rubber to a tens pad

This will help tease creators to understand feedback across multiple users and will also help users see what others are having success or issues with to help them choose their own setup

[sarkos1]

Seeing your comment about triPhase reminded me of a potential solution to the high intensity signal issue. I was a beta tester and started out using a triphase setup and had similar reactions to some of the files. When I wend to dual channel setup I did not find nearly the dynamic intensity - just hurt so good when it was supposed to! For those with the high intensity issues - are you using tri-phase or dual channel?

[Rillo]

I wonder if due to wide variation in feedback we should all try and provide more details when reporting on teases in a standard template to capture all details.

For example -

Box = ET312B
Trode placement = Channel A = Cock head, Channel B = Anal, Common = base of cock
Setup = Triphase with black wires joined
Settings = Audio 3, MA at 12 O'clock

Perhaps even a summary of the electrodes themselves as 1 strand of thin copper wire will feel very different than a thick conductive rubber to a tens pad

This will help tease creators to understand feedback across multiple users and will also help users see what others are having success or issues with to help them choose their own setup

It needs to be easy to remember template if its going to be a "standard".
AMPS
A - Audio file/source
M - Make/model and mode of device
P - Placement of electrodes
S - Settings/configuration

[boundupone]

I wonder if due to wide variation in feedback we should all try and provide more details when reporting on teases in a standard template to capture all details.

For example -

Box = ET312B
Trode placement = Channel A = Cock head, Channel B = Anal, Common = base of cock
Setup = Triphase with black wires joined
Settings = Audio 3, MA at 12 O'clock

Perhaps even a summary of the electrodes themselves as 1 strand of thin copper wire will feel very different than a thick conductive rubber to a tens pad

This will help tease creators to understand feedback across multiple users and will also help users see what others are having success or issues with to help them choose their own setup

It needs to be easy to remember template if its going to be a "standard".
AMPS
A - Audio file/source
M - Make/model and mode of device
P - Placement of electrodes
S - Settings/configuration

That is genius

[boundupone]

Seeing your comment about triPhase reminded me of a potential solution to the high intensity signal issue. I was a beta tester and started out using a triphase setup and had similar reactions to some of the files. When I wend to dual channel setup I did not find nearly the dynamic intensity - just hurt so good when it was supposed to! For those with the high intensity issues - are you using tri-phase or dual channel?

Interesting, was that with a dual pole anal trode for one channel?

[sarkos1]

Yes - DIY rig - Left to Dual Pole Anal Probe, Right - Head and behind balls.

[Solid_Active]

Great tease, I had lots of fun with it last night. My biggest request for a change would be the option to skip a repeat session that you have already experienced. I like the random selection and getting some of the sessions multiple times, but sometimes you keep getting repeat sessions that you don't find that interesting anymore, and it would be nice to be able to "re-roll" the encounter. To balance it, maybe repeatedly using this option could have a chance to offend that girl and/or haxor girl resulting in some consequences.

I also noticed that there were some sudden jumps in intensity between some of the stim files, but not insurmountable, I just had to play the tease at a bit lower power level than I usually stim at. I would suggest allowing for a "very easy" option of 90% volume on tease files so that those of us who play high levels in the tease sections don't get blasted when it ramps up.

Similarly, I don't really like it when there is an instant jump to much higher intensity either from higher power or just a different waveform. IMO, it is a lot better to have new waveforms and/or higher volume levels get introduced with a gradual ramp up, even if it is only a couple seconds of ramp time. After you get introduced to the new waveform or power level, it can be fun to have sudden starts and stops, I just don't like it when the new sensation is introduced at max level.

For the most part, I thought you did a very good job of this, particularly in the torture sections (most of the pain files seemed to have ramps in them), but there were a couple of hard intensity jumps in some of the training sessions that could use a short ramp. The "teacher" one (I forget the girls name) was the biggest offender here. I ended up loving her hard stim file after a few seconds of it, I just didn't like the way it was introduced.

Also, for some new content suggestions, I think it might be fun if there was a chance for haxor girl to step in and say things like she is disappointed, and you get 2-3 different torture sessions in a row, or she thinks you aren't making progress, and you get a series of training sessions instead. And if you direct message a girl, maybe there is a chance she decides to give you all three of her sessions, or maybe she sends you to someone else for some training/torture if she thinks you are bothering her too much, or even report you to haxor girl for some special treatment if you keep harassing her.

My setup:
DIY MidiStim
Triphase
Cock base, corona ring, short urethra plug (plunging pete, best trode ever IMO)

Corona ring was common, but I connect it with opposite polarity, so the common trode will have red from one channel, and black from the other. I find that this can help with spikes in intensity that occur when the waveform suddenly changes from shifting phase to a sustained in-phase section. In theory, you could still get a high intensity spike if the waveform was perfectly out of phase for a while, but that seems to be very uncommon.