[FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi v2.0

[RandomName]

I would also say that it was unexpected to hear that this ending is "things go to complete shit" but I can see that perspective if that is not what you are into and the game didn't communicate that it was heading in that direction.

Okay, so I first wrote that my initial response like, immediately after I played it and well, since I didn't like the final scene, I didn't finish, and so I was quite frustrated lol. So, I may have been a little on the harsh side with "things go to complete shit".
So, first I do want to thank you for taking my message in the manner it was intended despite the lack of tact. It's true that I really didn't like the ending, but that's just my own preference, describing it as "going to complete shit" wasn't proper by any means, my apologies.

Second, you nailed my reason for being upset spot on. It really felt to me like I was just going to get a nice happy vanilla ending with my fiancé, and then the ending felt very abrupt.

Third, I went through it a second time and well, I once again tried to get a vanilla ending with Caprice, but this time, being more demanding of the succubi in order to not get that same ending. This time I got the ending where I tie her up lol. Now, this ending (while I do wish I would have the option to just not tie her up) was more akin to my tastes. (although I haven't done anything with my profile here, I am like, neutral/leaning dom) I do think a small change that would be worth considering, is that if you go through that scene not clicking the prompt to untie her, you will automatically be required to just leave her there. I do think it would be nice where at the end of the scene, rather than the choice to untie her disappearing altogether, it would appear as a choice as well, i.e. you reach the end of the scene and persistent button for untie her could be taken away, but add it as a choice next to walk away.

Fourth, I honestly always feel bad writing these, I worry that my criticism may be taken in a manner harsher than intended. So I do want to reiterate that the tease is very well made and I am planning on going through it a few more times at least.

Thanks for taking the time and dedication required to make such a high quality tease. :)



I also found a bug:

(Notably, I picked Valentines)

If you leave early (Specifically "That's not true, I'll leave now") during fire place in main floor after doing; nap, shower, tv; leave immediately. The scene won't be flagged as done, and you can just redo it as if it didn't happen.

Not a bug, but a mistake maybe?
Skipping all Lana interactions at first, when she came to me after all the office outfit scenes, her line "See? It's working already! I know it isn't much but I am also going to leave you a gift by the stairs." is the wrong color.

[indyc]

Second, you nailed my reason for being upset spot on. It really felt to me like I was just going to get a nice happy vanilla ending with my fiancé, and then the ending felt very abrupt.

Bugs fixed, thanks for the report!

Thanks for giving it another shot. It almost takes effort to get back to such a neighboring ending as you did. (There are other vanilla endings in other branches). Today I added another "vanilla" caprice ending as an option at that point where you had the alpha/beta options. I also plan to add more of a "enough of this" button to those alpha and beta endings in that spot.

Please don't feel bad writing your comments, they are exactly what I need to hear and consider. I invite far more people to tell me what didn't jive with them and how I can improve!

[indyc]

I can't even imagine what a decision tree to keep track of all this looks like. Thank you for the enormous amount of work this must have taken, and sharing it with us.

Honestly I can't even imagine it either, but you are very welcome!

[box_of_cards]

Hi Indyc, trials of the succubi is really a great game. I maybe found a minor issue, at the very beginning with Nicole at the pool.

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In my first test run I went to the pool and not into the woods to get the key. At the pool i ran into Nicole and it was basically impossible to get away from her and loose a piece of soul. She is also going pretty fast with nudity and sexual content. I find that a bit early in the game and it might frustrate some people. The girl with the key in the woods, forgot her name, is much better suited for beginners. She is slowly ramping up the stimulation and it is possible to sneak a peak but get away without loosing soul.

[indyc]

Hi Indyc, trials of the succubi is really a great game. I maybe found a minor issue, at the very beginning with Nicole at the pool.

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In my first test run I went to the pool and not into the woods to get the key. At the pool i ran into Nicole and it was basically impossible to get away from her and loose a piece of soul. She is also going pretty fast with nudity and sexual content. I find that a bit early in the game and it might frustrate some people. The girl with the key in the woods, forgot her name, is much better suited for beginners. She is slowly ramping up the stimulation and it is possible to sneak a peak but get away without loosing soul.

Hello, that perception is good to know. It is one of the newer scenes so it is very possible I need to change some of the numbers and will run another calculation. That being said -

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One thing unique about this scene is that it "skips" the other Nicole/Anissa intro so it is equivalent to a double tease at minimum. For example, you are comparing it to Nikki in the woods but it instead takes the place of Nikki+1 other girl. However, sometimes something can be "balanced" but feel imbalanced and fixing the unfair feeling is certainly valid. I'll put some thought into it.

[spugbutter]

Thank you @indyc! This is my new favorite tease!

But I found something hidden that I hope is intentional:

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If I go into chrome's developer tools and click on "console", I see a lot of things displaying as I play. The one thing that stood out to me was "state code" followed by a bunch of junk would display sometimes.

I tried entering that junk as my super secret code after restarting and it worked!

I love this because it lets me go back in time when I get an ending I didn't want by scrolling back the big list until I find what I want to try again.

Was this intentional? Will it stay this way?

[indyc]

Thank you @indyc! This is my new favorite tease!

But I found something hidden that I hope is intentional:

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If I go into chrome's developer tools and click on "console", I see a lot of things displaying as I play. The one thing that stood out to me was "state code" followed by a bunch of junk would display sometimes.

I tried entering that junk as my super secret code after restarting and it worked!

I love this because it lets me go back in time when I get an ending I didn't want by scrolling back the big list until I find what I want to try again.

Was this intentional? Will it stay this way?

I love that I hit your #1 spot!

My coding skill is approaching zero. Fapnip was beyond kind enough to help me for several months now performing coding tricks that are far beyond what anyone else is doing. Pretty much anything that is a coding trick in TOTS beyond an if statement was their input.

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In speaking with them, it sounds like you stumbled across a betatesting debug tool that was meant to be disabled for release. As far as if I will keep it or not? - It does go against the "spirit of the game" and I might remove it eventually but I guess it can stay for now.

[box_of_cards]

Indyc, thank you for looking into my suggestion. I really like playing trails after a longer period where I abstained from watching any nudity. Then it feels really like a tease where you a torn between following your temptation and being faithful. I mean, trials is really a TEASE and not just a jerk of instruction.

[Bee4]

Amazing game as usual! I’m surprised by how much you added!

Ever since the first version I’ve wanted it to be much faster paced but you like this pace. Could you please let me click the screen to move forward? Any codes? I’m trying to get all caprice endings.

[spugbutter]

I might remove it eventually but I guess it can stay for now.

Now I wish I kept quiet. I hope you keep it.

Any codes? I’m trying to get all caprice endings.

For now you can make your own codes. Look at my spoiler above. Or you can restart the tease at the point you want to save and choose "more options" to get a code.

[lmind]

Fun game! Obviously a ton of work. I love all the variables!

I agree with the previous feedback that the busty, porn-type models are not my personal preference, and if you ever dare undertake a v3.0, then an alternative branch of leaner models would be my top request. As it is, I played through once (saw 11% of the content); I am satisfied with the ending I got; I'm not especially hungry for alternative outcomes with the other models; so I will probably not play through again. Whereas, if there were other models of my type, I definitely would. Moreover, it sounds like you maxed out the limits of Milovana and it was a shitload of work, so even if you never make another version, I am still awed and grateful for this one. Five stars from me!

Spoilery feedback:

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I played on Valentines and went for as many blowjobs as I could get, lol. By the end, my soul was 2, which was a fun and tense challenge to avoid dropping to zero. I leaned heavily on Lana and Gabbie to reduce lust. I fucked Lana and devil-Gabbie, and then chose the "Gabbie moves in" ending, which was great. I did not feel connected to Caprice, since I rarely saw her, so the infidelity was not worrisome to me.

The genre of "censored porn" doesn't do anything for me, so I did not connect much with the scenes involving lights, clouds, bubbles, flowers, etc. as censors.

I don't think I ever met Lily. Was it Lily Chey (Guerlain)? If so, I definitely would have pursued her.

Possible bug report:

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When Nicole was giving a blowjob followed by a footjob, there was a choice that did not make sense, right at the end of the blowjob and right before the footjob. I apologize, I don't remember the options exactly, but the two options implied that she had already been giving a footjob, and the options were something like quit or have another footjob -- but she had not started the footjob yet, so it didn't make sense. Sorry I don't remember the options more specifically.

-lmind

[indyc]

Amazing game as usual! I’m surprised by how much you added!

Ever since the first version I’ve wanted it to be much faster paced but you like this pace. Could you please let me click the screen to move forward? Any codes? I’m trying to get all caprice endings.

I wouldn't say I "like" the current pace but am still trying to figure out what it should be. I think what I said is that the pace is already faster than the vast majority of existing teases and I'm not sure how much faster I should go. As for codes, I'll see if I can whip something up but in the meantime, the more of the game you clear, the more unlocks you gain for starting later in the day.

I agree with the previous feedback that the busty, porn-type models are not my personal preference, and if you ever dare undertake a v3.0, then an alternative branch of leaner models would be my top request.

If I heard this feedback about 6 months ago I probably could have pulled off a lot of content like that. Sadly I don't see a path where I could fit it in story wise or space wise but will try to add "more" along the less endowed lines. Out of curiosity would old pre-surgery Lana be "small" enough? I always thought about throwing some of that in.

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Lily is Lily Jordan who has a few scenes at the end currently. The next version will likely have another scene of her but making an entirely new branch with a new character is unfortunately very unlikely. The only other ones left would be Alina Li (only 2 rare endings) and Caprice (who actually has a decent amount of content/endings)

Thanks for the bug report! I'm glad you were still able to enjoy it despite it not meeting your tastes. Perhaps the amount of Caprice content could make you return for a second go.

[vtrans]

Thank you, this is the best product for me, I'm even using online translation when playin - first time to do so - you are genius on the script.
Moreover, with metronome would be 120% perfect for me.

[Bee4]

In general I love games but am bad at them. Can I have a in depth walkthrough? It’s probably difficult to explain but after maybe 5 different endings the others aren’t obvious. I still feel it is too slow paced, no offense. Still easily wind for being the best game on Milovana.

[RandomName]

I went through it again, and while, frankly, I fucking died laughing at the ending I got...

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So, I got to the end, and decided to hear Lana out (of course, this got some kinky shit) but I just found it probably a lot funnier that I should have, because well, I got fucking plot twisted in my porn game lol. I HAD NO IDEA THAT SHE WAS BETRAY.

I'm usually pretty good at predicting this sort of thing, the horny prevented my predictions.