[RELEASE] ESTIM with Liya Silver

[fagustree]

Every time I try to combine an anal electrode with a common under my balls, my pelvic area (between my balls and my ass) just hurts like crazy.

The Taint. The Grundle. The Fleshy Fun Bridge.
(cards against humanity)

[Analicious]

Thanks for the awesome work!

Unfortunately I cannot take part in enjoying the e-stim experience since I've had health problems from that before, but know all too well how fantastic it feels.

And what would that be?
Personally I wanted to share my recent experience with this file, which felt realty good but made me numb and then I experienced pain, especially on my prostate. I have been experimenting with Estim for some years now and I find that triphase signals can potentially tense up my pelvic muscles and large intestine for some days leading to pain and discomfort. I am not sure if this time it was the signals, me or my rig. However, after some days I tried digitalparkinglot's "Estim with Lily Ivy" which uses similar triphase signals and I got pain once again for a couple of days.

I have to say that I have been a fan of your work digitalparkinglot and Numberonefan. I love all of digitalparkinglot's two-channel videos, they work great for me! The denial/ruined orgasm videos of Numberonefan are my personal favourites!

For the two channel setup I use sticky tens pads around my anus instead of an anal probe, if you don't get the gel conductivity and replenishment right it can burn you up from the inside. For the triphase anal probe I use a sticky pad on my spine just above my anus. My setup is a DIY Estim device based on a modified portable speaker made from instructions found on smartstim years ago. However, I don't know if it's just me but, even though I love it, Estim makes me dehydrated and then tired for some days, so files are a hit and miss for me.

Has anyone else had a similar experience? Could it be my setup or is my body too sensitive?

Nevertheless thank you both for the amazing work you are the most amazing authors around here!

[JakofClubs]

Estim makes me dehydrated and then tired for some days, so files are a hit and miss for me.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I find that different stim tracks work best with different electrode placements, especially where the common trode in a tri-phase setup goes. I think most folks use the common on the anus or under the balls, but I usually put the common on the head.

I also find that different tracks feel better with a different mix of PC volume and stim device volume. e.g., a monotonous stim track can get more variation by turning the PC volume down. Especially true on the 2B.

Stimming for an hour or two can take a lot out of a person, especially if you tense your muscles. Try and relax more and drink plenty of fluids.

[janmb]

Thanks for the awesome work!

Unfortunately I cannot take part in enjoying the e-stim experience since I've had health problems from that before, but know all too well how fantastic it feels.

And what would that be?

Nerve problems that prevented half of the muscle fibres in my legs from firing when commanded. In short, walked on crutches for the better part of two years. Fortunately was not permanent, but after things eventually returned to normal, at some point I tested estim again, in both moderate intensity and amount, and the issues immediately resurfaced.

Obviously cannot claim proof of cause vs effect here, but from my own vantage point it is fairly conclusive at this point, and therefore something I sadly has had to keep away from. Definitely a huge pity, but not worth the particular risk I am apparently running. Fortunately, thousands are using e-stim on a regular basis without such issues, so unless having had similar problems yourself, I would not really worry about it. It is not meant as a warning to others as such, if anything just a very general reminder to pay attention to your body and listen to its feedback.

[robs]

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The track felt smooth, it felt like Robs actually sat down and only took the frequencies that worked with this specific setup and feel good. There was a single frequence throughout the whole 2 hours that I did not like that much, which was the blue/yellow one. This was a bit too sharp for me but it was still pleasurable, it was just a bit too long or the whole segment was already too intense for that.
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Okay I think this was my longest post. Thanks again, amazing work, please do more like that. Love you!

I wish I could take credit for the stim signals, but that was all DPL's doing.
And a masterful job he did!

All I did was the written prompts/taunts, and I didn't even do all of those.
DPL had a good idea, I went with it, and then he improved it quite a bit.

I've played this one now probably 20 times, and I still have a hard time making it through if I haven't gotten off in the last 24 hours.

The blue/yellow signal is just about impossible for me to get through, even if I've recently released.

I don't do poppers (or any drugs), but I can't imagine I'd make it 1/2 as long if I did.

Numberonefan did an awesome job putting the music and video together, and DPL's edits and estim track are amazing!

[froog]

This is epic. Would it be bad form to request a higher bitrate version of this masterpiece? I guess it'd be a bit of work but I'd be happy help seed forever.

[satn00b]

I just played this one with a new proper bipolar anal trode (using only the head part near the prostate) and it's so amazing what a difference that made. I enjoyed DPLs files before (I had 2 different monopolar anal trodes), but this is a whole new level for me. I could'nt make it to the end and it felt fantastic.

Thanky you very much again for this masterpiece, I'll try all of your files again now and I'm sure they will be even better than before

[digitalparkinglot]

Hey satn00b,

It was a game changer for me too when I got my first true bipolar anal trode.

I'd love to hear what electrode placement configurations you find work the best for each of my files.

-dpl

[TheHenchmen]

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The track felt smooth, it felt like Robs actually sat down and only took the frequencies that worked with this specific setup and feel good. There was a single frequence throughout the whole 2 hours that I did not like that much, which was the blue/yellow one. This was a bit too sharp for me but it was still pleasurable, it was just a bit too long or the whole segment was already too intense for that.
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Okay I think this was my longest post. Thanks again, amazing work, please do more like that. Love you!

I wish I could take credit for the stim signals, but that was all DPL's doing.
And a masterful job he did!

All I did was the written prompts/taunts, and I didn't even do all of those.
DPL had a good idea, I went with it, and then he improved it quite a bit.

I've played this one now probably 20 times, and I still have a hard time making it through if I haven't gotten off in the last 24 hours.

The blue/yellow signal is just about impossible for me to get through, even if I've recently released.

I don't do poppers (or any drugs), but I can't imagine I'd make it 1/2 as long if I did.

Numberonefan did an awesome job putting the music and video together, and DPL's edits and estim track are amazing!

For my DIY kit, the blue/yellow combination signal was an immediate shutoff due pain. it didn´t feel good, it wasn´t good pain, it was just pure pain.
Maybe the signal is 2B optimized? Maybe this sequence doesn´t do well in triphase?

I´m wondering where I go wrong here as nobody besides Mr.GoGoGirls has reported on the signals being too sharp.

[robs]

For my DIY kit, the blue/yellow combination signal was an immediate shutoff due pain. it didn´t feel good, it wasn´t good pain, it was just pure pain.
Maybe the signal is 2B optimized? Maybe this sequence doesn´t do well in triphase?

I´m wondering where I go wrong here as nobody besides Mr.GoGoGirls has reported on the signals being too sharp.

I have a 2B.

I had a lot of trouble with stereo stim originally, until I sent the signal from one of the files -I think it was estim with Micayla through a mixing board (I was a musician in a previous life).

I figured out that it was clipping (overloading the channels), so I either had a signal that was way too powerful, or I couldn't feel it at all using the surround track.

I was trying to control it through the 2B, but the digital signal processor (DSP) didn't have anything to work with.
You can see this if you go into stereo mode, and play the stim signal, and then adjust the output on the player. Once the signal is low enough, you'll see the bars on the display change from L: |||||||||| R: |||||||||| to something that moves up and down along with the beats.
If you keep the signal at about 75%, the edge signal won't flood the signal processor.

The surround channel stim is still a problem for me because I like my Cock Hero music LOUD, but there's no real way to attain that and keep the stim signal from overloading the DSP in the 2B.

I went back to using a separate unit (my iphone) for the stim, and have had a lot more luck.

There is still the problem of the DSP having a slight delay, especially after clipping, which can be distracting.

An analog DIY estim kit doesn't do any compression or smoothing of the signal, but it's just as susceptible to clipping and sharp spikes from volume changes.

Try using the triphase setting again, but have the volume of your player (I use VLC) and the computer much lower. If the lower volume works for you, you can download the mp3 stim track and run it simultaneously with the video, and crank the audio back up again.

There is also a lot to be said about which electrodes you are using, the placement, and the adhesion.

If an electrode isn't sticking properly, it can be incredibly painful because the surface area of the signal is highly concentrated in the areas where contact is made.

In general, the larger the 'trode area, the more attenuated (weaker) the signal. a 2 inch round or square is much smoother than a 1/4 inch thick loop.

Also, the closer together the 'trodes are, the more signal. having both signals on the perineum in a biphase was always hot for me.

for my favorite configuration, I use a 2" round mono pad on the perineum, a 1/4 loop around the shaft and testes, and an ElectraStim Habanero biphase prostate stimulator inserted. the wiring is pretty simple:
both red lead wires (one from each channel) go to the Habanero, and the black wires go to the perineum pad and the loop.

I get the pads and rubber loops and such from Current Pleasures (www.currentpleasures.com), which someone around here at Milovana pointed me to when I was originally shopping for gear.

Good luck, and happy stimming



-Robs

P.S. the Electrastim Habanero is by far the best toy I've got. it's size is perfect, and it's sturdy. all the other prostate stimulators I've had have all been too short, too wide, or too flimsy.
I'll stop typing now before I get admonished for not using the Hardware and Teledildonics forum...

[TheHenchmen]

I tried volume regulation, but I guess it´s a stereostim/2B conversion issue.

My contacts/electrodes are fine, but some stims work, but many stims that are 2B optimized aren´t.

[digitalparkinglot]

The real story about the blue/yellow combination signal is that it is meant to be strong but pleasurable. I might have missed the mark a bit. I have a DIY device and I use the configuration mentioned at the beginning of the video. When I play it it is pleasurable but a little too strong. As I was making it, testing it, and dialing it in, the only way I can know how the production is working as a whole is I have to play it all the way through, no skipping are anything. So for most of a week I was playing this 2+ hour video morning and night (twice a day), day after day. In the end I didn't get that signal dialed in quite the way I would have liked to, I just couldn't take any more. So do what I do, turn it down a little when you get to that part.

I'm glad you guys like it enough to have these discussions about it.

Thanks,
-digitalparkinglot

[kinkyhorizons]

I guess it's always going to be the problem, everybodies setup is slightly different not just when it comes to the box, but electrode placement and type of electrodes. Even if you tell people you did it tri-phase with glans, balls (common) and prostate there's still so much variation possible one person to the next.

Not every part of it works perfectly for me, but I still absolutely love what you've produced and it is one of my favourite CH / electro experiences that will often challenge me at different parts each time I play it though.

Hearing what you went through to make it just makes me respect the final thing even more, awesome work!

[BlueM00]

It is left to cock head, right to under balls, common to the base of the shaft AND common to the prostate AND those two commons are connected together.

Do you insulate either of the CR electrodes around the cock? If so, top or bottom?

[digitalparkinglot]

It is left to cock head, right to under balls, common to the base of the shaft AND common to the prostate AND those two commons are connected together.

Do you insulate either of the CR electrodes around the cock? If so, top or bottom?

I use a washcloth to make sure the loops around the cock don't contact the balls, but that's all.

-dpl