[Closed Beta Feedback Thread] - Estim Experiment Day 2

[boundupone]

First please make the first page with instructions instant skippable with a button.
When you open the tease more than once that is very annoying.
Same for the intro, it's very long until the sessions are starting, would be cool to start instantly without the same story part over and over again.

Done, not on very first page, but about 3 pages in where you have the options for the tease

I like to click some buttons from time to time but I think this is a bit too much because there are so many parts where you clicking on buttons.

Personally I agree, but I know others like more interaction, but my plan for next tease is no interaction necessary

First mistress was Katy, the vibrator levels felt kind of the same.
Ramp if there was one, was really low.
I clicked on the edge button after around 10min... edge button disappeared... I clicked I came and was redirected to the host, but the edge button didn't came back.
So the tease was broken -> reload

God I hate these announce buttons, will check through again tonight on this

Then I changed the start and recalibration volume to 85% to lower the jumps a bit.
Tease broke and no stim files played at the first mistress, forgot the name of her.

So I started with the 60% volume button in the settings again.
First mistress was the girl in the blue chair with the white dress.
The slideshow of that girl had only <10 pics with an infinity loop?
She changed the stim file and the jump was way to high for me.
I clicked the edge button to skip her... same problem -> edge button disappeared -> reload

I changed a few of the mistresses images/structure on slideshow, so this should be sorted

Next try Eliza was the first girl, was okay but the first volume power up had no effect.
I skipped her after a while -> edge button worked.

Jessa came up -> stroking with estim is not my thing -> skipped her with edge button

Clarissa was next, the volume text was dopple and the second text was always higher in volume than the first.
But session worked.
Ramp was for me way to fast... around 0,25% every 2 seconds?
No chance with my DIY unit, this will fry your dick.

Then the Bryci pic part came up.
The pace of the pics is very different, some only stay for a second and changing way to fast, I would raise the min time here a bit.

This is down to personal preference, I do prefer faster image changes, but built in variety of between 0.5 and 5s per image, I love it when they flash past, but appreciate not for everyone

Christy was next -> stroking -> same as above -> skip

Bryci was next again? Mistake or is this planned to came up more than once?
I skipped the session with the edge button, the host played "another" file instantly -> this file felt like nothing with my device.
The calibration signal which was playing next was okay, so I guess this "another" file is a lot quieter?

Bryci is basically repeated as I only have 18 mistresses, so if some picks a really high number of teases it isn't possible, Not ideal but I am not going to add any more, so is a work around to be honest. I may change her text a little to explain though

Next Asa with the slave, that was the first really good session.
Even if I'm not this much into pain I liked it, the levels were just right, in the first part.
Until she changed the stim file, this one was already really strong in the beginning and the ramp up -> HELL

55% was already very strong
60% hurts!
65% limit
67% escape with edge button

Between 55% and 67% were only <2min?
I'm definitely not able to edge with something like that and the volume difference between 55 and 100% is an CRAZY amount of space.

As mentioned in my other post, I did think this was ambitious/aggressive, but no one else has reported the same issue, so this may just be down to differences in how boxes work? Would love feedback from other testers on this

Next the host played a pain file after clicking the edge button...
HELL!!! That singal is WAAAAAAAAAAAY to high on my device!
Possible that the balance will feel different with other devices but with my DIY unit this will not work.

same as above, would like feedback from people here

Then the host started a pic show, counter started at 24 seen pictures?
Text volume dopple again with the second one shows higher volume.

Strange, maybe this is due to us all logging in to the test tease? I logged in once and all the settings were different, so I assume in test when one person changes something it saves for all?

Next Bryci with the 3rd time appearance.
Skipped her again.


Final test...
Maybe someone who like REALLY painfull stuff.
But shocks with an increasement of 10% with each time is just not playable with my device.

Again, feedback would be appreciated from other testers on this bit before I reduce and then it doesn't work on other boxes

I did another start to see if I missed some random girls.

Jana was first, was okay but also started to get a bit boring after the infity loop started.
So skipped this after 3min.

Next Megan... played good for the around 2-3min.
Than she started with the "force" mode, this ramp was so crazy high that it started the recalibration again and again after <2min?
Also not playable with my device.

I will check this

This should not sound to bad, maybe this will work with other devices but with my DIY unit I had nearly zero pleasure with this tease.
I had always the hand at the volume buttons because of those crazy changes in volumes.

I would say a volume ramp of 10% in 10min is okay, maybe 5min will work too... everything else is to crazy for me.
Specially when the signal jumps from 60% (recalibration) to 100% in <2min again and again.
Is this working with any other device? I thought the difference from 60 to 100% should be REALLY high on every other device too?



Just a few more generell tips.
I would always recommend to make a copy of your tease and never work on the live version you already private shared with people.
Create a backup and uploading it into another tease is done in <30sec.
So people can play with it while you are changing things and when you are done, upload the new version into the live version.
Later for the public version you can do this because it only changes with republishing.

I also would recommend to have only one version of your tease published later.
The first day with v1 and v2 is kind of confusing for people who are not following the forum.

Yeah that was my bad with the first one, won't be doing that again

Make sure your basic things are working fine before releasing the tease for everyone.
Seems like the missing edge button is still there.
I have noticed that the buttons in the notification area could be buggy some times and lead to errors.
But you can always just overwrite those buttons when using the same identifier.
So I would add this notification button just everytime the host comes up again, so you could for example click on the i came button and both buttons would appear again. Otherwise the tease will break completely.


Thanks for your work, even if the most parts are nothing for me because they are pain focused and my devices don't work with some other stuff, I always appreciate new content!

Again thanks for your comprehensive feedback, I really appreciate the work and effort for you to do this

[Electro]

Sorry that this didn't work on your box, but I really appreciate such detail, and your honesty. I will look into what you have said tonight. I don't plan on a major re-build of the tease, but I will see what I can do.

Regarding some areas, I am surprised I havent had similar feedback if the ramps really are so aggressive. Most of the feedback has been about files being too weak if anything. So I would love some additional comments from others on this, as I don't want to really dial everything back if it currently works OK on other boxes

I can add a little bit to this. When Bianca gives pain after clicking edge, it feels aggressive to me, but I'm also into pain related stuff so it's just on the edge of what I'm okay with, I imagine even if it was a step lower in volume, it would still be startling and painful. ..but at the same time, I'm also expecting Bianca to give me the '10% edge jump' at the same time, so I'm clicking edging before it gets to a level that I can't handle, so I'm getting hit with less pain because of that too. I'm also trying to stretch out the time before I need to click edging by have my computer volume set lower during the recalibrations, so that way the tease has headroom to raise the volume instead of starting at a very strong feeling and going up from there, which I find helps a bunch. I found that if I set 70% as the tease starting and recalibration volume but not having this volume set to the 'max I can handle', then the slow rise another 5-10% into where it starts to feel strong works for me. It also makes the ending scene more manageable because the ending would otherwise fry my junk. I did run into an issue when I set the volume to recalibrate at 70%, when I hit the final scene, the very end, it tries to play 110% volume which caused that audio to be silent. I'm not sure if there is a way to put an if>100, set to 100 or something. I don't know how coding works for EOS and it seems like it is difficult to do, thanks for hanging in there on working through all the bugs.

The rest of this post is sortof a response to lolol2's comments but info in general about electrodes and placement.
There is another factor to this too, electrode placement and electrode type are huge. If I wire up with TENS pads, there is a much bigger limit on how much volume I can raise before it hurts. Using "conductive rubber" with the skin coated well with electrode lube works much better, or wet(electrode lube) metal or wet(salted water) sponge electrodes doesn't have the sting with higher volume that TENS pads have. For electrode placement, putting the common channel as an anal electrode makes the entire tease far more intense and painful parts and volume changes become more significant, I'm not sure how to describe it, but comparing it to the common being forward of the balls on the urethra side of the cock(as a wet metal electrode such as one of those static strap looking ones on that side or a CR loop with one side insulated), I can handle larger increases in volume and pain feels less intense. I did most of my testing with a CR loop just under the corona ridge of the head, common as a CR loop just forward of the balls with the top half of it insulated(urethra side exposed), and R channel as a CR inserted anally. I don't really feel the anal electrode but I'm okay with that because I can't find any other configuration that can make the stroking feeling feel right because any electrode on the bottom side of the balls or in contact with the perineum feels either stingy or like I'm getting kicked in the balls.

[boundupone]

lolol2 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:30 am
I did another start to see if I missed some random girls.

Jana was first, was okay but also started to get a bit boring after the infity loop started.
So skipped this after 3min.

Next Megan... played good for the around 2-3min.
Than she started with the "force" mode, this ramp was so crazy high that it started the recalibration again and again after <2min?
Also not playable with my device.


OK, I have pushed this ramp way way down, I thought I had already changed this. Sorry!!

[lolol2]

I'm not sure if there is a way to put an if>100, set to 100 or something.

Check out point number 6. Extra: Make it more stable!

[boundupone]

Sorry that this didn't work on your box, but I really appreciate such detail, and your honesty. I will look into what you have said tonight. I don't plan on a major re-build of the tease, but I will see what I can do.

Regarding some areas, I am surprised I havent had similar feedback if the ramps really are so aggressive. Most of the feedback has been about files being too weak if anything. So I would love some additional comments from others on this, as I don't want to really dial everything back if it currently works OK on other boxes

I can add a little bit to this. When Bianca gives pain after clicking edge, it feels aggressive to me, but I'm also into pain related stuff so it's just on the edge of what I'm okay with, I imagine even if it was a step lower in volume, it would still be startling and painful. ..but at the same time, I'm also expecting Bianca to give me the '10% edge jump' at the same time, so I'm clicking edging before it gets to a level that I can't handle, so I'm getting hit with less pain because of that too. I'm also trying to stretch out the time before I need to click edging by have my computer volume set lower during the recalibrations, so that way the tease has headroom to raise the volume instead of starting at a very strong feeling and going up from there, which I find helps a bunch. I found that if I set 70% as the tease starting and recalibration volume but not having this volume set to the 'max I can handle', then the slow rise another 5-10% into where it starts to feel strong works for me. It also makes the ending scene more manageable because the ending would otherwise fry my junk. I did run into an issue when I set the volume to recalibrate at 70%, when I hit the final scene, the very end, it tries to play 110% volume which caused that audio to be silent. I'm not sure if there is a way to put an if>100, set to 100 or something. I don't know how coding works for EOS and it seems like it is difficult to do, thanks for hanging in there on working through all the bugs.

The rest of this post is sortof a response to lolol2's comments but info in general about electrodes and placement.
There is another factor to this too, electrode placement and electrode type are huge. If I wire up with TENS pads, there is a much bigger limit on how much volume I can raise before it hurts. Using "conductive rubber" with the skin coated well with electrode lube works much better, or wet(electrode lube) metal or wet(salted water) sponge electrodes doesn't have the sting with higher volume that TENS pads have. For electrode placement, putting the common channel as an anal electrode makes the entire tease far more intense and painful parts and volume changes become more significant, I'm not sure how to describe it, but comparing it to the common being forward of the balls on the urethra side of the cock(as a wet metal electrode such as one of those static strap looking ones on that side or a CR loop with one side insulated), I can handle larger increases in volume and pain feels less intense. I did most of my testing with a CR loop just under the corona ridge of the head, common as a CR loop just forward of the balls with the top half of it insulated(urethra side exposed), and R channel as a CR inserted anally. I don't really feel the anal electrode but I'm okay with that because I can't find any other configuration that can make the stroking feeling feel right because any electrode on the bottom side of the balls or in contact with the perineum feels either stingy or like I'm getting kicked in the balls.

Thanks for this, you raise a lot of really valid points, thanks.

Your comment that the ending would fry your junk is enough to convince me it needs ammending. I have changed the jumps to 5%, so still significant, but half of what they were. I also changed the minimum time she will punish you to 10 seconds. This now means you have longer to get accustomed to each level before the next jump, but will also make each one more difficult as you have to bear it for longer

[boundupone]

Make sure your basic things are working fine before releasing the tease for everyone.
Seems like the missing edge button is still there.
I have noticed that the buttons in the notification area could be buggy some times and lead to errors.
But you can always just overwrite those buttons when using the same identifier.
So I would add this notification button just everytime the host comes up again, so you could for example click on the i came button and both buttons would appear again. Otherwise the tease will break completely.

This is a good idea, I have done this now, so i hope to god the bl**dy buttons are working properly now

[boundupone]

I'm not sure if there is a way to put an if>100, set to 100 or something.

Check out point number 6. Extra: Make it more stable!

Cheers, have done this, was a ballache but worth it to make the tease more stable

[boundupone]

I made a raft of changes to ramp ups throughout the tease to make it less aggressive. I will take another pass at it tomorrow evening, and all being well publish it, so if you have a chance to play again please let me know if you find any issues

The edge button still seems a bit buggy, but will check again tomorrow, but I followed advice to overwrite the announcers, so as far as I can tell you have the option to press the i came button as a get out

[thebears73]

Just loaded up again and the EDGE button certainly isn't fixed. First time pressing it and after 7 min its still didn't take me back anywhere and just hung up. Pressing I came, going through Mistress B again and at least the good news is that the EDGE button came back,

Mistress Kenya, very ow signal on 2b, skipped with edged.

Same with Larrissa, pressed edge and just hung so had to press i came again to go back.

4th Mistress Bryci, same pressed Edge and NOTHING, had to press I came to get back

I think before final release to the public the game play needs to be fixed.

[boundupone]

Just loaded up again and the EDGE button certainly isn't fixed. First time pressing it and after 7 min its still didn't take me back anywhere and just hung up. Pressing I came, going through Mistress B again and at least the good news is that the EDGE button came back,

Mistress Kenya, very ow signal on 2b, skipped with edged.

Same with Larrissa, pressed edge and just hung so had to press i came again to go back.

4th Mistress Bryci, same pressed Edge and NOTHING, had to press I came to get back

I think before final release to the public the game play needs to be fixed.

Thanks for the feedback, will take another look at the edge button tonight as it seems to be worse again for some reason

[slave2008]

Hello,

how can I test Day2?

[boundupone]

Just loaded up again and the EDGE button certainly isn't fixed. First time pressing it and after 7 min its still didn't take me back anywhere and just hung up. Pressing I came, going through Mistress B again and at least the good news is that the EDGE button came back,

Mistress Kenya, very ow signal on 2b, skipped with edged.

Same with Larrissa, pressed edge and just hung so had to press i came again to go back.

4th Mistress Bryci, same pressed Edge and NOTHING, had to press I came to get back

I think before final release to the public the game play needs to be fixed.

Thanks for the feedback, will take another look at the edge button tonight as it seems to be worse again for some reason

Good news, I think this is now sorted. In the third category for edge I had missed a * in the stim file name, so I had put *abc.mp3, but needed *abc*.mp3

I believe this will now work as expected

[boundupone]

Hello,

how can I test Day2?

Hi, the tease is in a closed test right now, so not opening to new people. However, I plan to officially launch the tease today or tomorrow, so just be a little patient :)

[slave2008]

great, I'm excited

[boundupone]

OK, I have totally rebuilt the ending. Now Bianca doesn't just destroy you, but there is a slow pain ramp that will take maybe 10 minutes to complete, although there is a mercy button to escape. I just need to add some additional images to this section to make it a bit more eye pleasing :)