[Idea/request] CH: Bisexual seduction, a soft approach to conditioning porn.

[Alex69]

Disclaimer: No, this is not an idea/request for one of many sissy-hypno videos that already exist, which consists on saying “you crave cock” while showing you hardcore trans/gay porn. No, this is not about that.

The foundation of this hypothetical CH would be softcore HD porn of, on one hand girls, and slowly and innocently introduced male solo/gay porn on the other hand, then playing with prompts, teasing you with red/green light games, to condition you during 40 or 50 minutes to actually end up enjoying both types of porn. But as I said, always from a more soft and teasing point of view, never that sloppy full of cum hardcore porn (I find that disgusting and not funny). Basically the same vibes that French Riviera or CH:Descent but progressively introducing males, good looking cocks, and why not, gay and lesbian scenes. Maybe giving the option to end with one of two endings, one with females (maybe with a punishment) and one with gay or bisexual, not too hardcore porn. Obviously during the video we would develop sort of a training to break barriers and end up embracing our bisexual side.

The reason I’m interested in such unique idea is that webteases are not immersive enough, and conditioning vídeos on streaming sites like Hypno Tube lack the progression and touch many producers here have. And most of those videos make an abusive use of cumloads, fisting, and other hardcore/rough images that turn me off and make me soft.

I feel I’m capable to drive this idea to a final, refined product, regarding to text, script, games and progression. Even maybe the music (although I don’t feel the need of a beat-meter). The problem is, as always, finding good HD softcore porn sources... and this is specially hard for solo male / softcore gay porn. I mean In the girl side we always have those Playboy, Allfinegirls, MetArt videos, but does it exist a male/gay equivalent with no-hair guys in their 20s with teasing videos and high production value gay intercourse? That’s my missing piece I guess.

If any of you have ideas to share, places to look for this source material, or just want to materialize this vision I have (remember, with a not too hardcore approach and always teasing and playing with the viewer to seduce him and break any mental barriers, just for fun) I’m open to listen to you and collaborate.

Thanks for your attention.

[kyrex90]

Soft porn is shit and boring.

[zingg2]

This probably wouldn't be a video for me, but I can definitely see the gap here that's just waiting for someone with good editing skills. Thanks for the thoughtful post on what you'd like to see - that's how we get better content!

[Frantzo]

First, you have a very interesting way of thinking.

Even if i consider myself as a heterosexual (and i'm not interested in gay porn), i share your thoughts about the mainstream hardcore porn. Like you, i deplore the repetitive imaginary that the porn industry can create.

Eroticism should include more stuffs and every type of sexuality, orientation and so on. I guess, your project is about "pansexuality".

Sadly, i can't help you for your research for gay porn. Like you said in your post, i use some clips from playboy, X met art etc... so i'm not sure if i can help you in your project. But be sure, i'm looking for your project because like i already said, i recognize myself in your approach.

[Alex69]

This probably wouldn't be a video for me, but I can definitely see the gap here that's just waiting for someone with good editing skills. Thanks for the thoughtful post on what you'd like to see - that's how we get better content!

Thanks for your appreciation, it means a lot to me. Unlike the previous user, I don't think softcore is boring. I find rather boring the mainstream porn TBH.

First, you have a very interesting way of thinking.

Even if i consider myself as a heterosexual (and i'm not interested in gay porn), i share your thoughts about the mainstream hardcore porn. Like you, i deplore the repetitive imaginary that the porn industry can create.

Eroticism should include more stuffs and every type of sexuality, orientation and so on. I guess, your project is about "pansexuality".

Sadly, i can't help you for your research for gay porn. Like you said in your post, i use some clips from playboy, X met art etc... so i'm not sure if i can help you in your project. But be sure, i'm looking for your project because like i already said, i recognize myself in your approach.

Then, we share the same vision. And I could try and make videos like yours for instance but I lack the skills and the source material to even try, so I'm happy with so many creators -like you- that follow the eroticism rather than the shocking images.

And like zingg2 said, there's a gap there to make use for. I'd say a niche, but still, I know I'm not the only one fantasizing with a more elaborated version of "bisexual conditioning" to explore other dimensions.

The only caveat here are the gay videos, which should fit my personal taste (not hairy men), have high quality, and be good enough to be "tempting". And that's extremely diffucult to find. Because I usually don't watch gay porn, and I don't know any site, let alone if I have to find it for free without an Empornium account: Impossible.

If anyone can ilustrate me on high quality gay material I could try to make a video, but honestly, I think its better to leave the idea up there and wait if someone with good skills and access to gay and lesbian UHD videos can work on it. If anyone can, I offer myself to create an script and the games.

[smutreader]

Why do you want to train yourself to be bisexual? If penises don't turn you on, would that make you soft? It seems like the whole "reprogram your brain" to become straight or whatever doesn't work either. I think there's plenty of content out there that is sensual and sexual without being extreme. I don't get turned on by a woman getting fisted, smacked, peed on, or having cum dumped all over her either. I recognize that some people are so numb to eroticism that they need a stronger stimulus to turn them on, but thankfully I don't have that problem. There's nothing more sexy to me than two women making out and touching each other with clothes on or off while exuding desire for each other. Probably why I dig Malena Morgan so much. She was so good.

[doremi]

Why do you want to train yourself to be bisexual? ... It seems like the whole "reprogram your brain" to become straight or whatever doesn't work either.

I so agree with that!

[Alex69]

Hey, are you saying that I "want to make a video to train straight people to become bisexual"? No, That's not my goal and maybe you have misunderstood the idea behind. And it might seem like I want to do a serious "conversion program" or something like that, but no. I just want to state, here, and for the future, that This isn't the case and I fully believe that everyone should be free to choose and enjoy their own sexuality, PERIOD. And, in any way I'm questioning any sexual orientation. Maybe this looks a bit like overreacting but I'm trying to prevent any possible shit storm.

Now, there's the kink side. The fantasy side. Obviously people who are seduced by this idea, will be -deep down- a bit into it, similar to "lesbian seducing" videos, or people who enjoy con-non-con games on the BDSM dungeons. So I'd like to draw the line here between one of those "reprogramming" videos, or the idea that hypnosis works and changes your brain (pseudoscience), and what I try to do, which leans more on the side of what Milovana is about: Exploring your own sexuality. Pushing a bit our conventions, just to explore, just for fun. And if the video features any "reprogramming" theme, it will be purely fictional and with recreational/kink intentions only.

For example: myself, I've never been into latex porn, but a user created a work where he introduced latex porn slowly, only to end with trans porn in the mix. Initially I thought "meh, I don't like this", but the videos were progressive enough to give me the chance to open my mind and see if I end up liking it, instead of rejecting it from the beginning. I tried it, and I didn't like it, and that's fine!

That being said, I wanted to thank the user who DMd me with some clues and help to try and make this a reality, although I still see it difficult to make it real... I've never edited video, and I'm pretty clueless, but if I have spare time (and now that the world is a bit frozen by the virus might be a good time) I could try just to train and learn a bit more about video editing and stuff.

Still, if anyone knows any equivalent to PlayBoy, FineGirls or MetArt style videos with guys, solo or with some degree of gay intercourse, just let me know the website. I'm sure it does exist!

Thanks for your support!

[doremi]

Still, if anyone knows any equivalent to PlayBoy, FineGirls or MetArt style videos with guys, solo or with some degree of gay intercourse, just let me know the website. I'm sure it does exist!

Now that I think of it, the studio Evil Angel perhaps have something you may be interested in. Girl pegging a boy or a trans, boy-boy, boy-trans. This studio is definitely hardcore, but the intro might be softer, like their other videos.

[spaisin]

Hmm, I read your dilemma, and figured I might be able to pull at least some feels for studio names from empornium.. here's a couple that had several hits for the studio and that might contain something you'd use:

NextDoorStudios : normal / sporty / twinky looking males, standardish sex acts. Looks pretty.. "tame", as in, potentially usable for you.

TheGuySite (from some emp-description): is a gay porn studio with a focus on beefy/muscular men, with their slogan being "Real. Masculine. Men".

WhyNotBi.com : looks like a "decent quality studio" bi-porn, which kinda means there'll be minimum three people in every film, I suppose.. :) Seemed like "normal people" from the thumbnails..

BiPhoria: similar to above, some military RP etc..

BlacksOnBoys: Masculine BBC with a boyish partner.. some TSs as well.

ChubVideos, BearFilms and MonsterCub... well, without trying to piss on anyones kinks (yes, intentional... ), I had an unavoidable gigglefit at "Santa's little helpers", and decided I'm just way too straight for more of this research ... Big guys, in all the ways.


I'm butting in mostly out of curiosity - I might've checked something like this out couple years back, but seems I've mostly passed this phase by now. Partly because the usual content is "aggressively and intentionally repulsive" ... pretty much the same complaint as you OP. Partly, well, even "coerced bi" started feeling odd/too far already; you're planning for "sensual gay" at the end, which would quite likely turn me off anyway. But good luck with it anyway..

This is a little off-the-rails, but eh.. I've kinda been thinking about the potential for something similar as a "sissy" project; It wouldn't even need to be an actual sissy thing, just mostly a guided appreciation of all/some things female. After some long research sessions over the years, I seem to have come to the conclusion that my sissy tendencies are mostly just an appreciation of the female form. You know, the fantasy that "it is ME" now seems just a way to amplify my focus on "the described" feminine aspect. Sure, with the normal sissy thing, adding hard dicks in the mix makes it a little confusing, but if a guy got turned off by a hard dick, then how on earth would he ever reproduce ... so that part might just be .. added extra? I dunno about others, seems to be the case for me ..

Wouldn't be surprised if it was somewhat common.. maybe such a thing could get an audience as well. Hmm. Then again, "appreciation of the female form as a coerced thing" .. wait. That's just the advertisement industry? Oh, and the porn industry? And the music.. wait...

nvm