FB: The Estim Tower

[otto_dix]

And when you have/find some files that work good just share them and tell us with which devices this works.

OK. I will start exploring. I do have a question. what do you need in the way of sound files to create an alternate set of punishment tracks? do I need to create full tracks? how long do they need to be? or do you just need short files that are known to be on the painful side given the normal volume one might use for regular sessions in the tower?

one more question. is it possible for me to try each pain session that currently exists? I do know that a couple already work very well with the 2B.

[lolol2]

I just need short snippets of files that feel painful, you don't have to create something, just send me the link to a file with the time where the signal feel painful.

To test the current pain files, the easiest way would be with the GuideMe files, find download link in the first post.
When you want to try the files without the tease you can just open the folder "AAaudio", this one includes all audio files.

Normal pain files: x0xxa.mp3
Alternative files: xh0xxa.mp3

When you want to try this in the tease:

- start the tease in GuideMe
- enable the debug mode in application settings
- select difficulty "evil"
- select which pain files
- other settings are not important
- instead of entering the 1 floor, enter the elevator
- select a floor and click on the back button
- stay with the elevator girl
- now you will get all Mistresses in a row

Elevator code:

Spoiler: show

1123

In the top right you can see the page name, just send me the page name which are working.
page name / picture name
I just need the page name.


I can only implement additional pain files in the GuideMe version, the online web version can't handle more pages, the nxy editor isn't able to handle unlimited pages.

[otto_dix]

Thank you lolol2

Its taken me the better part of the evening to figure everything out. I have Guidme and I downloaded the sound library mentioned earlier.

I will get back to you with a review of which pain pages work with the 2B and which do not.

It may take awhile.

[otto_dix]

Ouch.

I ran through all the pain sessions using the 2B set at the usual intensity level. I usually set the computer volume at 70% and the 2B intensity levels at 10% (plugged in with the adapter and the power session on Low). As I experienced each session, I ranked the level of pain I experienced from 1 to 10. Of coures, some session are purposely silent. Many were just a 1 or 2. I could tell there was a signal, but it was very faint.

A 7 was very intense, just on the verge of being painful. 8 and over is clearly painful.

I took down the page and image number for each session. Below is a list of all the sessions that I ranked 7 or higher. I hope this helps with creating Tower sessions (regular and endless would be nice), that are effective with the 2B. Even if it is only playable on Guidme.

pain61p6 / x61-(6) 7
pain61p7 / x61-(7) 7
pain61p9 / x61-(9) 7
pain62p7 / x62-(7) 7
pain62p8 / x62-(8) 7
pain62p11 / x62-(11) 8
pain64p4 / x64-(4) 7
pain64p5 / x64-(7) 7
pain64p8 / x64-(8) 7
pain66p6 / x66-(6) 7
pain69p5 / x69-(5) 7
pain69p6 / x69-(6) 7
pain71p2 / x71-(2) 7
pain71p6 / x71-(6) 8
pain71p8 / x71-(8) 8
pain71p10 / x71-(10) 7
pain71p11 / x71-(11) 8
pain72p4 / x72-(4) 7
pain72p6 / x72-(6) 7
pain74p5 / x74-(5) 7
pain74p6 / x74-(6) 7
pain74p7 / x74-(7) 8
pain74p8 / x74-(8) 7
pain74p11 / x74-(11) 8
pain75p1 / x75-(1) 7
pain75p2 / x75-(2) 7
pain75p3 / x75-(3) 7
pain75p4 / x75-(4) 8
pain75p5 / x75-(5) 8
pain75p6 / x75-(6) 8
pain75p8 / x75-(8) 8
pain75p9 / x75-(9) 8
pain75p10 / x75-(10) 8
pain77p8 / x77-(8) 8
pain77p9 / x77-(9) 8
pain77p10 / x77-(5) 8
pain78p2 / x78-(2) 7
pain78p3 / x78-(3) 7
pain78p4 / x78-(4) 8
pain78p5 / x78-(5) 8
pain78p6 / x78-(6) 8
pain78p7 / x78-(7) 7
pain78p8 / x78-(8) 8
pain78p9 / x78-(9) 8
pain86p4 / x86-(4) 8
pain86p6 / x86-(6) 8
pain86p7 / x86-(7) 8
pain86p9 / x86-(9) 8
pain86p10 / x86-(12) 9
pain86p11 / x86-(10) 7
pain86p12 / x86-(11) 9
pain87p4 / x87-(4) 7
pain87p7 / x87-(7) 8
pain87p8 / x87-(8) 8
pain88p5 / x88-(5) 7
pain88p7 / x88-(7) 7
pain88p8 / x88-(9) 8
pain89p2 / x89-(2) 7
pain89p3 / x89-(3) 8
pain89p4 / x89-(4) 7
pain89p5 / x89-(5) 7
pain89p7 / x89-(7) 8
pain89p8 / x89-(8) 8
pain89p12 / x89-(12) 8
pain90p8 / x90-(8) 7
pain91p7 / x91-(7) 8
pain91p9 / x91-(9) 8

[lolol2]

WOW thanks for the input, do you have the complete list with the sessions that doesn't worked too?
Comparing the files would make it easier to find out what's not working on the 2B.

[Stimmer0815]

Hi Otto,

this looks like a lot of work and Pain
Did you used the Harsh Pain files for this?
From my experience with the 2B i had the following problem.

If you use normal Setting for the Stim sessions and you have high Power, AC Adapter, level 15 for example.
The Hars Pain files dont have any effect in 99% of time.
When you raise up power up to 40-50 then you could feel the stim Signal and maybe Pain. But, when now normal stigm signals are played and you are to slow to lower intensity.... This is Pain

So i think we have 2 Problems.

1: Most Harsh Pain signals did not work with 2B
2: Pain Signals which work, are to silent, compared to normal stim signals.

Can you confirm this?

Thanks for all the work everybody takes into developing the Stim Teases.

Chris

Ouch.

I ran through all the pain sessions using the 2B set at the usual intensity level. I usually set the computer volume at 70% and the 2B intensity levels at 10% (plugged in with the adapter and the power session on Low). As I experienced each session, I ranked the level of pain I experienced from 1 to 10. Of coures, some session are purposely silent. Many were just a 1 or 2. I could tell there was a signal, but it was very faint.

A 7 was very intense, just on the verge of being painful. 8 and over is clearly painful.

I took down the page and image number for each session. Below is a list of all the sessions that I ranked 7 or higher. I hope this helps with creating Tower sessions (regular and endless would be nice), that are effective with the 2B. Even if it is only playable on Guidme.

pain61p6 / x61-(6) 7
pain61p7 / x61-(7) 7
pain61p9 / x61-(9) 7
pain62p7 / x62-(7) 7
pain62p8 / x62-(8) 7
pain62p11 / x62-(11) 8
pain64p4 / x64-(4) 7
pain64p5 / x64-(7) 7
pain64p8 / x64-(8) 7
pain66p6 / x66-(6) 7
pain69p5 / x69-(5) 7
pain69p6 / x69-(6) 7
pain71p2 / x71-(2) 7
pain71p6 / x71-(6) 8
pain71p8 / x71-(8) 8
pain71p10 / x71-(10) 7
pain71p11 / x71-(11) 8
pain72p4 / x72-(4) 7
pain72p6 / x72-(6) 7
pain74p5 / x74-(5) 7
pain74p6 / x74-(6) 7
pain74p7 / x74-(7) 8
pain74p8 / x74-(8) 7
pain74p11 / x74-(11) 8
pain75p1 / x75-(1) 7
pain75p2 / x75-(2) 7
pain75p3 / x75-(3) 7
pain75p4 / x75-(4) 8
pain75p5 / x75-(5) 8
pain75p6 / x75-(6) 8
pain75p8 / x75-(8) 8
pain75p9 / x75-(9) 8
pain75p10 / x75-(10) 8
pain77p8 / x77-(8) 8
pain77p9 / x77-(9) 8
pain77p10 / x77-(5) 8
pain78p2 / x78-(2) 7
pain78p3 / x78-(3) 7
pain78p4 / x78-(4) 8
pain78p5 / x78-(5) 8
pain78p6 / x78-(6) 8
pain78p7 / x78-(7) 7
pain78p8 / x78-(8) 8
pain78p9 / x78-(9) 8
pain86p4 / x86-(4) 8
pain86p6 / x86-(6) 8
pain86p7 / x86-(7) 8
pain86p9 / x86-(9) 8
pain86p10 / x86-(12) 9
pain86p11 / x86-(10) 7
pain86p12 / x86-(11) 9
pain87p4 / x87-(4) 7
pain87p7 / x87-(7) 8
pain87p8 / x87-(8) 8
pain88p5 / x88-(5) 7
pain88p7 / x88-(7) 7
pain88p8 / x88-(9) 8
pain89p2 / x89-(2) 7
pain89p3 / x89-(3) 8
pain89p4 / x89-(4) 7
pain89p5 / x89-(5) 7
pain89p7 / x89-(7) 8
pain89p8 / x89-(8) 8
pain89p12 / x89-(12) 8
pain90p8 / x90-(8) 7
pain91p7 / x91-(7) 8
pain91p9 / x91-(9) 8

[lolol2]

The pages are all from the normal pain files.

[Stimmer0815]

Hmm, thast strange.

Normal Pain signals worked ok for me. The only Problem ist, that they are not realy more painful compared to normal stim signals.
Most signals are nearly same feeling like normal Stim.
But maybe the Pain signals Otto described are realy Pain.
But then we also do not have a solution for the Harsh Pain files.


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The pages are all from the normal pain files.
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[otto_dix]

1: Most Harsh Pain signals did not work with 2B
2: Pain Signals which work, are to silent, compared to normal stim signals.

Can you confirm this?

Hello Chris

I used the normal pain files for this exercise. The alternate or harsh files had less impact than the normal ones.

I also kept my intensity level at my regular calibrated level.

Otto

[otto_dix]

WOW thanks for the input, do you have the complete list with the sessions that doesn't worked too?
Comparing the files would make it easier to find out what's not working on the 2B.

Yes I do. it would make for an awfully long message though. I will try and enter it with multiple columns.

One odd result I found when I looked through the xml code. I found that I had extremely different results with the same sound file. I have no explanation.

I will post my data next. ( I emailed it directly)

Otto

[sub_anal_slut]

Hi
I am using the erostek ET312B POWER UNIT
I bought back in the days when it was fairly cheap
I would say most sound files work as intended in triphase program mode
the pain files is pain indeed
sometime i switch to 2 channel stereo program mode due to the stim signals sometimes feels a bit like sharp finger nails or hammering a bit too much .stereo makes it smoother,

all in all Lolol2 files work pretty well on the erostek

[Solid_Active]

For me using a sterostim unit in triphase with three electrodes, the problem with the pain files is that most of the time, the "pain" files are only outputting a signal one one channel at a time, and my body perceives that as being about half as strong as a signal that is playing on both right and left channels at the same time. This makes most of the "pain" files less intense than the standard files except for some parts where both channels are in sync.

Also, the three different waveforms used in the alt files have differing intensity for me. The square wave looking one (taken from the "relentless" files on another site I think) feels far more powerful than anything else (it's my favorite ).

I ended up modifying the alt files to play the same track on both channels. This works great, but it means no tri-phase effect in the pain sessions.

I also have a 2b, but I've never bothered hooking up the audio cable since I have the stereo rig. Not only does the stereo stim unit produce a better "feel" IMO, it is also more powerful. I can max out both, but it is a lot harder to do with the right waveform on the stereo box. Honestly, I was disappointed with how much power the 2b puts out, even on high with the AC adapter.

[mantrid]

If you use normal Setting for the Stim sessions and you have high Power, AC Adapter, level 15 for example.
The Hars Pain files dont have any effect in 99% of time.
When you raise up power up to 40-50 then you could feel the stim Signal and maybe Pain. But, when now normal stigm signals are played and you are to slow to lower intensity.... This is Pain

I wrote (more than once) that I assume that this devices alters the audio. My theory is that the signals are rectified, low pass filtered and re-modulated. Thats a good idea if you want to play back normal sound or connect a microphone, but it does not work with estim files. If my theory is correct the consequences are:

1. Low duty cycle signals (like the harsh pain files) are to quiet (assuming that the low pass filter is linear). You can verify that with the power saving signals from my lib, see question 2 of this post and also this post. Power saving signals on the calibration page should be quieter but feel similar if you increase the volume
2. The device cannot output steep flanks, i.e. cannot produce real pain
3. 3-phase effect go lost

[neogar]

Hello mantrid

There is alrerady a discussion in the forum of the 2b manufacturer about the milovana webteases and the estim signals.
The admin writes: no processing of the incoming audio? Not actually possible with a Analog to Digital System like the 2B. There is always going to be some form of processing of the input

But they are testing a new firmware and maybe there will be some change so that we have a mode which is more responsive to the estim signals.

[otto_dix]

WOW thanks for the input, do you have the complete list with the sessions that doesn't worked too?
Comparing the files would make it easier to find out what's not working on the 2B.

Yes I do. it would make for an awfully long message though. I will try and enter it with multiple columns.

One odd result I found when I looked through the xml code. I found that I had extremely different results with the same sound file. I have no explanation.

I will post my data next. ( I emailed it directly)

Otto

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