FB: The Estim Tower

[lawman5297]

Also i was wondering if it was possible to use video instead of image in guide me ? And if it was possible to use 2 separate audio channel in guide me ?
An estim tower like tease with ideally custom themed video, where you don't hear audio stim files and don't get stim from the audio of the video just from the audio stim file (not sure if i make sense to you here as english is not native language). That would be the perfect version of estim tower in my opinion, is it doable (not asking you to do it just want to know if it is possible)?

This is possible as I have done it but it is a pain in the ass and very time consuming. I did about a 5 minute one just to see if it could be done then just didn't bother with it anymore. I was going to do POV videos with a pro mistress talking and then have the stim but it was going to cost upwards of 2k to get a pro to do it. I would have had to charge for the video's then went through all that licensing and legal crap so I just abandoned the whole idea. I have made some 4 channel audio only stuff that works very nicely. It requires 2 stim devices in order to get all 4 channels but it isnt that diffucult and you can do it with Audacity. PM me if yopu want more info.

[grey54]

Sounds like you have downloaded the script only 2.3 version and replaced the .xml file?
Maybe the new sound files are missing, please redownload the whole tease, than it should work.

Indeed i had donwloaded only the script.

I guess you are talking about the weekly/monthly game?
This project is stopped but I have something else in my mind for a new tease.
At the moment I'm waiting that the new milovana tease engine goes live, there is a lot more flexibility that will help to create better teases.

Can't say anything about a possible release date... release when it's done.

I'm just glad to know you're working on something and i look forward to try it whenever it will be done.

[OverTheUnicorn]

I want to say thank you for making such a great tease! I use it with my StereoStim unit and it’s very fun! Have you ever thought about adding any additional modes? If so would you be willing to take suggestions?

[lolol2]

If so would you be willing to take suggestions?

I always have an ear for any suggestions, just write me a private message with your ideas, models or picture sets and maybe you will see them into this or any other future tease.

[HomerJayS]

Hello,

first a big thank you to lolo2 for all the work that you obviously put in this tease and also to the other members who contributed to it!
I recently got my 2B (I know it's not the best for stereo stimming, but I waned something versatile, a 312 is too big/expensive for a first try and I also didn't want to start with DIY, maybe later).

What I noticed with a self-made triphase cable (connecting black of both channels, as the original one does) I noticed a very strong sensation on the common electrode. I tried it with a TENS Pad on perineum as it was suggested (as far as I can remember the 19 pages of the thread ) but then I hardly felt anything on the other channels (loop and bipolar anal plug, using only one pole, of course). So I used channels A and B independently.
Is it normal that the common creates a much stronger sensations than the other two channels? How do you link the channels for a triphase setup (i.e. black A+black B / red A + red B / black A +red B / black B + red A)?

And one general question: How do you start the session? Just hook up the wires and go for it? Or some 'normal' stimulation at first, or even some teasing/edging to get really in the right mood? I was wondering, as I found it difficult to start with the electricity right away.

So thanks for your answers and have a nice sunday!

[lawman5297]

Hello,

first a big thank you to lolo2 for all the work that you obviously put in this tease and also to the other members who contributed to it!
I recently got my 2B (I know it's not the best for stereo stimming, but I waned something versatile, a 312 is too big/expensive for a first try and I also didn't want to start with DIY, maybe later).

What I noticed with a self-made triphase cable (connecting black of both channels, as the original one does) I noticed a very strong sensation on the common electrode. I tried it with a TENS Pad on perineum as it was suggested (as far as I can remember the 19 pages of the thread ) but then I hardly felt anything on the other channels (loop and bipolar anal plug, using only one pole, of course). So I used channels A and B independently.
Is it normal that the common creates a much stronger sensations than the other two channels? How do you link the channels for a triphase setup (i.e. black A+black B / red A + red B / black A +red B / black B + red A)?

And one general question: How do you start the session? Just hook up the wires and go for it? Or some 'normal' stimulation at first, or even some teasing/edging to get really in the right mood? I was wondering, as I found it difficult to start with the electricity right away.

So thanks for your answers and have a nice sunday!

Sorry to say but the 2b seems to be one of the units that does not play lolol's estim teases very well. This is most noticeable with some of the files for the pain mistresses. I have no personal experience with the 2b, I am just going by what owners have said.

As far as your question about tri-phase; normally the size of the electrode or contact area has more to do with what you feel. Generally the stim will feel more intense on the smaller the contact area or electrode. That being said this all involves some experimentation. I could say here is my favorite set up and it feels fantastic but then when you try it you may not experience the same results. I have setups where I do not use tri-phase and get what I want but others that I use tri-phase with, you just have to experiment.

With lolol's estim teases there is a calibration page that let you set your starting levels. I turn mine up till the signal is uncomfortable the down some. I find that if I keep the initial a little lower I edge for longer. If I don't have much time and am really horny I will turn it up some. Any of this help?

[mantrid]

What I noticed with a self-made triphase cable (connecting black of both channels, as the original one does) I noticed a very strong sensation on the common electrode. I tried it with a TENS Pad on perineum as it was suggested (as far as I can remember the 19 pages of the thread ) but then I hardly felt anything on the other channels (loop and bipolar anal plug, using only one pole, of course). So I used channels A and B independently.
Is it normal that the common creates a much stronger sensations than the other two channels? How do you link the channels for a triphase setup (i.e. black A+black B / red A + red B / black A +red B / black B + red A)?

What you need is a device that does not alter the input signal (high-pass filtering is allowed) and has decoupled outputs (transformer or capacitors, also recommended for safety). There seem to be devices that convert the signals into pulses, probably intended for microphones or normal audio signals. These device does not work properly.

For signals with different frequencies on channels it is not relevant which poles you connect.

For signals with same frequency and no phase shift (e.g. the calibration signal) the stimulation is indeed stronger on the common phase if you connect same poles (i.e. red to red or black to black).

Addendum: Neurons react on on voltage, not on current, and most estim devices usually can generate high voltages but are current limited. Means if the conduction on one electrode is bad, high voltage differences occur there. This becomes uncomfortable (feels like many needles). If you feel that, add some contact gel (water based lube with solved salt).

[rubik]

Hi,
Brand new to adding to forum but been sneaking around in the background for some time. Well done all those working on estim compatible teases.
I've read so much and tried a few options but can anyone tell me a way to download the ESTIM TOWER to my computer so I don't have to use a browser that will surely attract attention of the administrators? Is it even possible?
Many thanks in advance.
RBK

[Unnamed_007]

Hi,
Brand new to adding to forum but been sneaking around in the background for some time. Well done all those working on estim compatible teases.
I've read so much and tried a few options but can anyone tell me a way to download the ESTIM TOWER to my computer so I don't have to use a browser that will surely attract attention of the administrators? Is it even possible?
Many thanks in advance.
RBK

Hello,

It is indeed possible to run it offline via GuideMe / TeaseMe. It is a program made by a community member that can run teases offline.
Here's the link to the thread: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=12944
You can find the link to download the guideme version of Estim Tower in the first post of this thread.

Have fun!

[rubik]

Hi,
Thanks for reply 007. Maybe the problem is that I have a Mac not PC? Outta options? Thanks.

[Takenaga]

Thanks for this tease!

I bought myself an E-stim 2B to experiment with estimming and this tease was one of the first real experiences.

I have a triphase cable and did the blue cable with a loop around the head, the black with a loop around the base and balls and the red with a small torpedo in my ass.
I had to calibrate a lot and adjust the loop around the head quite often so I was more focused on how to use the device than on the actual tease. But I can imagine that as soon as I know how to place everything and I can just focus on the experience this tease will be mind blowing!

I used GuideMe to play it offline. My laptop output volume was on 40%, 2B with external power supply connected with laptop with the sound cable and mode on stereo, the number that can be changed by turning the adjust button on 50 and both A and B levels around 11%

I found that the normal girls were way more intense than the pain girls. This probably has to do with some volume/adjust/level setting but I couldn't figure it out. I saw on the display of my 2B that both A and B channels were sending short pulses but I felt almost nothing. Turning up the A/B output levels made the pulses of the normal girls unbearable high. Anyone recognizes this and has advice what to do?

Edit: when browsing this thread I see this is kind of a known issue, the 2B and pain files...

[matra530]

Sometimes the 2B has trouble with triphase and soundfiles. Try it in a normal 2 2 mode. 1+ to the head, 1- to the base. 2+ to the ass and 2+ to the base an the balls.

[HomerJayS]

Hello,

first a big thank you to lolo2 for all the work that you obviously put in this tease and also to the other members who contributed to it!
I recently got my 2B (I know it's not the best for stereo stimming, but I waned something versatile, a 312 is too big/expensive for a first try and I also didn't want to start with DIY, maybe later).

What I noticed with a self-made triphase cable (connecting black of both channels, as the original one does) I noticed a very strong sensation on the common electrode. I tried it with a TENS Pad on perineum as it was suggested (as far as I can remember the 19 pages of the thread ) but then I hardly felt anything on the other channels (loop and bipolar anal plug, using only one pole, of course). So I used channels A and B independently.
Is it normal that the common creates a much stronger sensations than the other two channels? How do you link the channels for a triphase setup (i.e. black A+black B / red A + red B / black A +red B / black B + red A)?

And one general question: How do you start the session? Just hook up the wires and go for it? Or some 'normal' stimulation at first, or even some teasing/edging to get really in the right mood? I was wondering, as I found it difficult to start with the electricity right away.

So thanks for your answers and have a nice sunday!

Sorry to say but the 2b seems to be one of the units that does not play lolol's estim teases very well. This is most noticeable with some of the files for the pain mistresses. I have no personal experience with the 2b, I am just going by what owners have said.

As far as your question about tri-phase; normally the size of the electrode or contact area has more to do with what you feel. Generally the stim will feel more intense on the smaller the contact area or electrode. That being said this all involves some experimentation. I could say here is my favorite set up and it feels fantastic but then when you try it you may not experience the same results. I have setups where I do not use tri-phase and get what I want but others that I use tri-phase with, you just have to experiment.

With lolol's estim teases there is a calibration page that let you set your starting levels. I turn mine up till the signal is uncomfortable the down some. I find that if I keep the initial a little lower I edge for longer. If I don't have much time and am really horny I will turn it up some. Any of this help?

Thanks for your answer, I know the general issues of the 2b and stereo input...

What I noticed with a self-made triphase cable (connecting black of both channels, as the original one does) I noticed a very strong sensation on the common electrode. I tried it with a TENS Pad on perineum as it was suggested (as far as I can remember the 19 pages of the thread ) but then I hardly felt anything on the other channels (loop and bipolar anal plug, using only one pole, of course). So I used channels A and B independently.
Is it normal that the common creates a much stronger sensations than the other two channels? How do you link the channels for a triphase setup (i.e. black A+black B / red A + red B / black A +red B / black B + red A)?

What you need is a device that does not alter the input signal (high-pass filtering is allowed) and has decoupled outputs (transformer or capacitors, also recommended for safety). There seem to be devices that convert the signals into pulses, probably intended for microphones or normal audio signals. These device does not work properly.

For signals with different frequencies on channels it is not relevant which poles you connect.

For signals with same frequency and no phase shift (e.g. the calibration signal) the stimulation is indeed stronger on the common phase if you connect same poles (i.e. red to red or black to black).

Addendum: Neurons react on on voltage, not on current, and most estim devices usually can generate high voltages but are current limited. Means if the conduction on one electrode is bad, high voltage differences occur there. This becomes uncomfortable (feels like many needles). If you feel that, add some contact gel (water based lube with solved salt).

Thanks for the hint on signals with no phase shift! Will experiment some more when I have some time (not too soon sadly)

[Solid_Active]

I use a sterostim box (the MidiStim design as posted on smartstim.com) with a triphase configuration, and the normal stim files you created produce absolutely mind-blowing sensations! Thank you sir!

The pain files however didn't work that well. I think the issue is that while the normal stim files are always playing both channels at the same time, the pain files mostly fire one channel or the other, not equally across both left and right. When only one channel is firing, the felt stimulation is weak, but when the channels randomly line up in a few select pain tracks, I get quite a jolt.

I ended up modifying all the alternate files to play the same signal on both channels, and this works much better for me. I also noticed that depending on the exact electrode configuration I am using, the sensation is stronger either with both channels in phase with each other, or 180 degrees out of phase, so I plan on setting up a set of in and out of phase files, and then using the standard/alternate pain feature of the tease to select between them. I can post the files when I'm done if anyone is interested.

[Ldroamer]

If you would post those files when you get done it would be appreciated.

I use a sterostim box (the MidiStim design as posted on smartstim.com) with a triphase configuration, and the normal stim files you created produce absolutely mind-blowing sensations! Thank you sir!

The pain files however didn't work that well. I think the issue is that while the normal stim files are always playing both channels at the same time, the pain files mostly fire one channel or the other, not equally across both left and right. When only one channel is firing, the felt stimulation is weak, but when the channels randomly line up in a few select pain tracks, I get quite a jolt.

I ended up modifying all the alternate files to play the same signal on both channels, and this works much better for me. I also noticed that depending on the exact electrode configuration I am using, the sensation is stronger either with both channels in phase with each other, or 180 degrees out of phase, so I plan on setting up a set of in and out of phase files, and then using the standard/alternate pain feature of the tease to select between them. I can post the files when I'm done if anyone is interested.