[RELEASE] Cock Hero - Island 2

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Can someone attach the torrent file for the 5GB version again, or post the magnet link for it? I'd like to have and seed the highest quality available, since I can spare the bandwidth/storage.
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bhlombardy wrote:
Required wrote: My friend, you totally didn't get the point there. If you pay attention, just before that round begins, the boss say "it's a video perfectly crafted" and "a masterfully creation".

It's OBVIOUSLY a TRIBUTE to those first Vindicare videos. If you would have seen the credits, you would have seen that I thank specially Vindicare for making those videos.
Well, no it wasn't entirely OBVIOUS apparently... some got it, I didn't. And no, I didn't get to the credits because as I said I stopped watching at that point. I had no idea what was to follow after that round, and since it wasn't obvious (to me) what your intent was -- it completely spoiled the experience.
Required wrote: Plus, you go and say that I'm "lazy", after making a 2h video, with 19 rounds completely new, and an tribute one, with LOTS of cutscenes, with more than 120 text lines, a story, and a nice ending...

I find your comment completely ignorant and disrespectful. Have a nice day.
Just to correct, I didn't directly say YOU were lazy... just that the including of that segment made it seem that way. In fact I did give you credit for your efforts on the remainder of the content that I DID watch. But that being said, regardless of your intent, then as my only criticism of a style-choice (and less accusatory as I came off before) -- I still don't think that round fits well with the rest of the video. It would be like U2 putting out an album and sticking a Beatles tune (as recorded by The Beatles) on say track three of their album. While some might get the artistic reasoning for it, it's out of place and should be understood (even by the artist) that not everyone will "get it" necessarily. Doesn't mean the band is "lazy" for their work on the rest of the album but that the inclusion of someone else's work to fill in time seemed to be so.

Incidentally, an "homage" is usually a bit more subtle... such as comment regarding it... or glimmer of it in the background of the episode leading up to it or some such. But I digress...

I knew I was going to get flack back from my words (and I predicted as much). No comment of criticism goes by without some bruised feelings of hurt and misunderstanding. I apologize for misinterpreting your intentions with your use of that segment... it wasn't as obvious to me as it was to others. As I said, I enjoyed the first elements of the video, and the previous installment -- and based on your comment now, I have full intention of returning and enjoying the remainder of the video.

Thanks for clearing it up.

I understand you. But you can't make such a review if you haven't watch the WHOLE thing.

You say that the scene doesn't fit with the rest of the video. Let me explain it to you:

That video doesn't fit on purpouse. In the story, it's a video that the boss make you watch. It's the ONLY video, in the whole episode, which is made by a character. So, If you want to show a video, that is made by a character of your story, it HAS TO BE different. Of course it doesn't fit. It should not fit. It must be different to the rest of the scenes. If the video is similar to the rest of the scenes, then that video is not special.

It's like U2, introducing what they believe is an awesome song, and then placing a Beatles song.

And where is the best point to make a tribute to another creator? A video that has to be different? Or a video that should keep a similar layout with the rest of the scenes?

That's why that scene doesn't fit....but totally fits.

And yes, dude...It's quite obvious that it's a tribute. I'm sorry if you didn't get that...but it's quite obvious. If I wanted to steal, I wouldn't have thank vindicare in the credits, and wouldn't keep the layout of that old video.

I don't think your comment was hurting, but I do think it was ignorant. You didn't get an obvious tribute, so I can't take you review very seriously. Sorry If I'm being rude, man, but you said I was stealing someone else's work...and that's not nice.
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Re: [RELEASE] Cock Hero - Island 2

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Spectacular video, Required, thank you! I enjoyed the Flux reference, they're some of my favourite CH videos too. Looking forward to the "hard mode" video. I personally prefer the music based rounds rather than the boss battles (although loved the early nurse here in Island 2). The first half of Island 1 Hard Mode is my favourite CH ever. Thanks again!
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Hey guys, thank you so much!!

As I said before, I won't be seeding the 5GB version. It's no better quality, believe me. The HD version for Island 2, is the 2'7GB file.

Working on Hard Mode, so it will be available soon.

It's interesting that some of you like better the "crowded rounds", and some like better the "boss fights". That made me think, it would be great, after finishing the trilogy, to have two special editions: "Cock Hero Island: Greatest Hits" (with every crowded round) and "Cock Hero Island: Boss Battles" (with just the bosses).

I think it's a nice idea, so thank you guys.
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A good followup to the first installation, although I personally felt that the first one was better. I actually prefer the "crowded" scenes, but am okay with the "solo" scenes too. However, I do feel that from the massage table girls and onwards, it started to feel a bit drawn out. Maybe because the beat meter slowed down considerably at certain rounds for too long, or maybe it was the three consecutive rounds of Carmella Bing, or both. It started to get slightly boring. The 8bit stuff though is fantastic as usual.
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HorseRadish wrote:A good followup to the first installation, although I personally felt that the first one was better. I actually prefer the "crowded" scenes, but am okay with the "solo" scenes too. However, I do feel that from the massage table girls and onwards, it started to feel a bit drawn out. Maybe because the beat meter slowed down considerably at certain rounds for too long, or maybe it was the three consecutive rounds of Carmella Bing, or both. It started to get slightly boring. The 8bit stuff though is fantastic as usual.
Thanks!

I agree with you. I think the end is too long...I think three rounds with the boss, were too much...and were kind of long. Just wanted to make a hard finale, but I think it could be better. For me, the best scene of the episode is the table. After that, it's not as good. But you know...that's the kind of stuff you realize after you have finished it.

For me, the first one is better, as well. But think about it: it was something new. Now, you know what you're going to find, so the surprise element is gone.

Thank you for playing!
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Required wrote:That's an interesting appreciation. I started working on the story, and for this one I tried to tell what I wanted to tell by using more "bosses". I thought it was interesting to focus on the one-on-one scenes, where you have to face one girl. In the first one, I made several videos with lots of girls, and for this episode, I wanted to try something different. If you want to know my personal opinion, I miss some more "crowded rounds" in this second episode. That is something I'll have in mind for next issues.

The thing is, when I was working on the first one, the rounds started to look too similar: a bunch of dressed girls with big boobs, then they dance taking off their clothes, and then they reveal some huge boobs. That happens like 4 times in the first episode. This time I wanted to make it a little different, and make less "crowded rounds", and more "one-on-one" rounds. Also, some of the new ideas I had for the rounds, required some one-on-one action, like the "car blowjob", or the "gloryhole scene"

But...I understand you. For next episodes I have to find the right balance between "crowded" and "one-on-one bosses". Also, the main critic I recieve on the first episode was that the end was kind of easy. This time I think the end is too long. Si, as I say, for the next episode I have to work on balancing the scenes, which, I tell you, it's not an easy task.

Anyway, thank you, and I hope you can play it and enjoy it soon :)
I think this is not so much about "crowded" versus "one-on-one", but rather about there been not music in about 70% of the rounds. A round like that once in a while is fine, but then it becomes the norm rather than an exception, drawn out over 2 hours... well, it's good if people enjoy it like that too, but a porn scene with just beats added over it, for me it is really bare-bones Cock Hero and personally it makes me sad, man. :-/ Sorry. I mean, that's when I'm just at the limit of asking, what is more than enjoying the original scenes as they are.

That besides, there is a whole world between a bunch of big boobs all over the place and single videos bosses. Take the TV round for example. It's the only one I enjoyed (in Island 2) because it had a theme and a music that matched it.

I liked the idea of a tribute round, but well, problem is, you just copy-pasted it. So even though it's a round I liked, I just skipped it because, well, been there, done that. There should have been a twist of some sort to make it worthwhile.

Other than that, I praise you for the idea of the gameboygame-like roleplay, and story-focused Cock Hero should be encouraged. But even if I found it very fun, most of the time it's still just a gimmick. Meaning that, when next you release the hard version with just the rounds, you lose everything that makes it original, because all the story is in the intermissions. That's why I think that more connexion between the "game" and the rounds would have been even better.
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I think we're all lazy. :)

Now seriously, I very much enjoy the narrative which strings this together. I know it's put together rather silly -- like looking at the Super Mario games, etc.. It's not supposed to be super-duper BELIEVABLE, we all know that. No NEED to cause us to suspend our disbelief by means of remarkable verisimilitude (English Literature 101, anybody?). I just think it does something helpful when the silly fantasies (first I'm going to watch her suck my cock; then this other girl is going to make out with her for no reason; then a third girl is going to stick my dick in her ass; then three girls will ...) are strung together somehow. Just SOMEHOW. So for me, Blue Magic, and Champion of Cocknia, and Vampire, are some of the better cock-hero style videos, because of the unifying narrative framework. And the Island series is as well. I'm not as keen on the women involved in the Island series -- too many fake-looking bolt-ons for me, not my style, but I'm sure other dudes like it, so it's certainly a successful production! Thanks for doing it.
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zingg wrote:Can someone attach the torrent file for the 5GB version again, or post the magnet link for it? I'd like to have and seed the highest quality available, since I can spare the bandwidth/storage.
If you had that .torrent file, it wouldn't do you a bit of good. Required only uploaded 28% of that version of the video before he stopped seeding that torrent. No one, except Required, has the other 72%. Having the .torrent file will not help you to get the other 72% unless Required decides to seed it again, and he's said he won't.
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Blank wrote:
Required wrote:
I think this is not so much about "crowded" versus "one-on-one", but rather about there been not music in about 70% of the rounds. A round like that once in a while is fine, but then it becomes the norm rather than an exception, drawn out over 2 hours... well, it's good if people enjoy it like that too, but a porn scene with just beats added over it, for me it is really bare-bones Cock Hero and personally it makes me sad, man. :-/ Sorry. I mean, that's when I'm just at the limit of asking, what is more than enjoying the original scenes as they are.

This. If this boss rounds had music over the scenes, and the intensity of the rounds built with the music...this would be a top 5 all time episode.

This is, however, all very nitpicky comments about something you put a ton of work into, for everyones enjoyment, for free! I think it's important to say that this feedback is an attempt to be constructive, and that I (and I'm sure the others here) appreciate your work immensely!
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I now add some discussion of weaknesses, but this post has potential spoiler content because it identifies some specifics about certain rounds. Don't click the "spoiler" if you don't want this post to be a ... an ... ahem ... a ... uh ... spoiler.
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Hopzzz wrote:If this boss rounds had music over the scenes ...

Sure, it's got weaknesses. I agree with Hopzzz that the absence of music in so many scenes was eventually a detriment. I like it SOMETIMES when there's a little bit of direct stroking without the music (for example in "real time stroking" finishes at the ends of Stroker Ace or Stroker Edge vids). I felt that the one-girl long-scene choice (done twice, three times near the end of this one?) seems rather un-creative. Just patch on an entire video from start to finish, is what it seemed like he was doing. Add to that the fact that I don't personally prefer that type of girl (the finishing girl, the one who is supposedly the queen of the whole tower) because she appears to me to be of the bolt-ons-on-a-ditz variety ... well, this isn't going to finish me off. I realize the choice was deliberate, to include bolt-ons and other large-breasted women, so I can't complain about it. Except to point out, that if you're going to focus on ONE single girl in ONE single scene to such an extreme, then you're essentially putting all your eggs in one basket. I'm sure there are plenty of other big-tit cock-hero-style videos that turn me off a little less, simply because they have a greater range of variety. Even though I'm not necessarily the type of guy who prefers women with big tits, I'm still stimulated by having a larger number of women who RANGE within the big-tit category. Whereas here in this video, given that our big-tit finish is with the ONLY ONE girl, it's not as exciting for me or for anyone else who isn't already IN the wheelhouse of this video. Basically, you maximize your chances of hitting many different guys who all have a variety of preferences, if you stay close to your theme but vary it a little bit, rather than if you (as here) super-focus solely on your theme. Just suggestions.
Generally, it's still a well-done video, I'm appreciative of his efforts. I don't give him major reduction in points for the suggestions I made (above in the spoiler), just a few cuts from perfect. Like, B-plus instead of A-minus or A ... :smartass: ... definitely still a passing grade.
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I am looking forward to getting to enjoy this as soon as I get a chance. (Tomorrow morning hopefully).

That being said I am sincerely getting a kick out of the level of criticism this kat is getting. I hope the better, if not all, of the criticism is said with a "loving tone for being constructive." It seems like some of the criticism has been a tad harsh. I can't remember who on the thread said this but, we should appreciate all of the Cock Heros considering they have been done for free and for the "love of the game." :-P With all gratitude, there is still room for opinions and direction for the progress of the art form.

Yes, I said the art form. Sounds ridiculous but it is so true. And I think that is great. The best done pieces completely allow you to lose yourself in the game and ride ecstasy. The peaks I have found while playing a few of these (along with a few mind altering substances) are unparalleled. With this, I can certainly sympathize with those being distracted by moments that are less than desirable. For example, that one that just got released a few weeks ago that put SO much attention to the editing ... and might have been THE WORSE stroke meter to music sync ever. After seeing that it is kind of hard to not comment.

I don't know what I am babbling about anymore. Ha!

I enjoyed Island 1. Looking forward to Island 2!
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psyopus wrote:The best done pieces completely allow you to lose yourself in the game and ride ecstasy. The peaks I have found while playing a few of these (along with a few mind altering substances) are unparalleled.
:yes:

Required, let me say again that CH Island 2 has great playability, and is a lot of fun. I've gone to it several times over the last few days. Thank you very much for making it and sharing it with us! :-)
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alchemi183 wrote:
zingg wrote:Can someone attach the torrent file for the 5GB version again, or post the magnet link for it? I'd like to have and seed the highest quality available, since I can spare the bandwidth/storage.
If you had that .torrent file, it wouldn't do you a bit of good. Required only uploaded 28% of that version of the video before he stopped seeding that torrent. No one, except Required, has the other 72%. Having the .torrent file will not help you to get the other 72% unless Required decides to seed it again, and he's said he won't.
Ahh, didn't realize it was never fully seeded. Thanks for letting me know!
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I really liked the concept. The story side of things is always a plus.

One area where this suffered for me was it fell into the trap of making a video "hard" by having a very fast beats when the content is a bit mediocre.
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For me, this was the prisoner boss. The scene was very dull and unappealing but the beat was intense all the way pretty much leading to a mechanical fail as opposed to an enjoyable fail
I find it more of a challenge if its a combination of faster (but not insanely fast) beats and some very enjoyable content.

The choice of scenes was not always to my taste but that is personal preference.

Overall, it was well put together and a worthy addition to the content already out there
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