Upcoming project - Stamina Training! Feedback + poll votes please!

[supermokkori]

Among a few other projects I'm working on, I wanted to revisit this one.

So before making the Stroker Ace series, I had experimented on making different compilations. Thanks to lestrian for the memory bump, I located this compilation I had made 4 years ago. And after watching again, I've become somewhat inspired to see about making a new version. But before I do, I wanted to hear feedback - so please download (or watch via the pornhub links) and either vote in the poll or offer up feedback (OR BOTH) on what you think of...

Stamina Training - The 36 Chambers of Pleasure!

When I started experimenting on making compilations, I took inspiration from a couple of different creators at the time but the one that I really drew inspiration from was a creator called DrFunkenFootz. He created a series of "No Fap" compilation challenges that had great style and great content. Not wanting to simply copy his style, I went for a very different approach where I wanted to challenge viewers (and myself as well) on trying to control their urge to completion as long as they possibly could.

The style and approach I took to this porn compilation was from the mindset of a martial artist - where I would present 12 adult models in some very hot scenes and challenge the user not to fap near the end of each round. To go along with the this martial arts theme, I used lots of sound effects from old martial art movies, as well as music from the Wu-Tang clan.

Anyway, when you give this thing a try, first thing to keep mindful of is this compilation is not in the typical CH-Style. There are no stroke beats nor hardly any music. There's also no "build-up" - in the Stroker Ace series, I generally like starting with hot dancing and teasing sequences before working into the "meat" of the hardcore stuff. This compilation pretty much starts off with the hard stuff right away.

At the very least, please participate in the poll - focusing on the stroke format - but if you have time to offer up feedback, here's some questions I'd like to hear some feedback on:

- Did you mind starting with hardcore content right away? Or would you prefer a build-up to more hard stuff?
- Did you enjoy all the girl selections?
- If you participated on the poll, I would appreciate if you could elaborate on your selection: what type of beats, what type of music, should there be both, etc.,
- Was this challenge to easy? Too hard? Just about right? Too long or too short?

And yes, if/when I do decide to make this, there will be an HD version (at least 720p). So apologies in advance for the subpar resolution of this compilation.

Screencaps:


Download Links: ((one 720MB AVI file, Runtime=46:12, 640x480 resolution)
Ezfile link
http://ezfile.ch/76xlzrqdw
MEGA link:
https://mega.nz/#!DY9W1RgR!_ncnAD2A25sB ... cV55mF2W3s

Pornhub streaming links:
Part 1: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?v ... 991accfcbd
Part 2: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?v ... 9a5ff446ba

[servufon]

i like the concept; i suggest having some kind of edging periods, such as one extended one per challenger (maybe allow player to skip a challenger in a given stage; i'm thinking that not so much for relief but because sometimes one challenger/scene will be less interesting)

i think there should be some kind of mechanical driver to cock arousal, however you do it; i like the idea of avoiding a strict beat/stroke mechanism with this and keeping it much looser, hence my suggestion of having some edging instructions (or some-such - you could do similar with "arouse softly"/"go hard and fast"/whatever)

- Did you mind starting with hardcore content right away? Or would you prefer a build-up to more hard stuff?
in general i would not mind, anyway, and would prefer it
worked fine here

- Did you enjoy all the girl selections?
i thought all were at least "okay" and i don't think it's reasonable to expect better from me unless you want to veer away from it being more general audience :)

- If you participated on the poll, I would appreciate if you could elaborate on your selection: what type of beats, what type of music, should there be both, etc.,
did above


- Was this challenge to easy? Too hard? Just about right? Too long or too short?
without some driver to urgency of arousal, to the edge, too easy, for me

[redno]

What a nice surprise to see you're having some new projects in mind !


1) Did you mind starting with hardcore content right away? Or would you prefer a build-up to more hard stuff?

Prefer the nice soft build up.

2) Did you enjoy all the girl selections?

Almost all of them were good, some really damn good, others decent...

3) What type of beats, what type of music, should there be both, etc

I'm confident you'll pull it off, whatever type you choose to implement, but some simple yet efficient beats, i think there should be some music too (more work but better results in the end imo). Otherwise that's just way too boring if there isn't any type of instruction to follow besides "fap".

4) Was this challenge to easy? Too hard? Just about right? Too long or too short?

Way too easy, and a bit too short. It was not the scene selection, which was actually very good at some points, but all the things around it, so the presentation and everything that usually defines a CH type tease. Oh and btw, that's just personnal preference but I think rewards rounds made of cumpilations are so damn boring and overutilized, do something else please...You already know this, but your reward round of stroker ace 3 is the best ever produced, but do it the way you want i'm trusting you.

So, I think you actually got a pretty good concept there, but it needs lots of presentation work and embellishing, beats&music, instructions on screen etc...Or something more original, anyways I don't really need to tell you all these things, I'm sure you'll know how to make it great.

[some human]

Did you mind starting with hardcore content right away? Or would you prefer a build-up to more hard stuff?

I very much prefer just girls dancing and teasing, no males at all. Like it used to be in the very first cock heroes which featured well selected scenes that would actually turn me on, set to fitting music and simple beat instructions.

Nowadays it's all just random fucking with cuts every 3 seconds, nothing but blowjobs and cumshots for the last few rounds and males in half the shots. There's absolutely nothing erotic in that.

Judging by the screencaps this video is just the same, so I have zero interest in watching it.

I really wish creators would go back to that old style, but I guess I'm just that one weirdo here...

[itslate]

First off, you Stroker Ace and Stroker Edge Series are still the best JOI I've seen on the internet, and I searched A LOT

In my opinion, both artistically and in the sense of it being erotic, doing those again wouldn't be very interesting. I would be looking to make something new (and tried a lot of new stuff in my vids as well).

I really like the idea of competing against challengers and the martial arts theme is really fun! I agree with servufon: Some edging instructions (one per challenger) would be cool. Like going up against multiple consecutive foes in a Dojo (Wutai, anyone? ) you are bound to be more and more fatigued - as you are with edging.

The challengers could have very different tasks (multiple edging, edge holding, edging and then stroking without coming, just stroking, no touching, cock bounces, etc) or they could do similar things (stroking with some edging, like in Stroker Ace) and just get more demanding.

Some brainstorming here:
There could be rules like: You can rest as long as you like between competitions, as long as you remain hard. Hands off could mean to make some Karate or meditation like hand motions or enter a stance Strokes could be hard hitting punches from the competitor, with edges being dangerous holds to choke you out.

What I really love are edging instructions and there aren't that many great ones out there. Theres tons of stroking instructions, but if I would get to vote, I'd vote for you focusing on edging, too

[Hopzzz]

I think the content and the concept is all good, but it's my opinion that something like this really needs music and audio or visual beat indicators. As, without those things, it feels very similar to just browsing porn clips, kind of boring and without any real challenge. I think the concept has real potential and I'm looking forward to seeing what you end up doing with it! Thanks!!

[NeverSay]

I think the content and the concept is all good, but it's my opinion that something like this really needs music and audio or visual beat indicators. As, without those things, it feels very similar to just browsing porn clips, kind of boring and without any real challenge. I think the concept has real potential and I'm looking forward to seeing what you end up doing with it! Thanks!!

Exactly my thoughts. Great content but without a beat, it seems like I am just watching hot porn.

[happyl]

Wow I thought it was fantastic. Although it was not as well put together as some recent CH I thoroughly enjoyed it. I have been playing CH so much I think I have learned to rely on the author to set the speed and pattern of the beats too much. after the first round I realized that to follow the instructions to "fap" really means to "masturbate" which doesn't necessarily mean stroke 1 2 3 4 but to pleasure myself as I see fit but just don't stop. Once I let go of the ole 1 2 3 4 CH type pattern and simply fapped as to what felt good I REALLY REALLY got into it!!! Sometimes mimicking what was on screen and sometimes not. At the end of round two I was so on edge when the warning arrived it took A LOT of will power to stop and not loose it!!!

Between round 2 and 3 it took even more will power not to touch myself. Then round three was one giant edge!!!

I would love a new version of this with some sensual background music, and maybe a just a bit more text as gentle reminders not to stop.

I was really surprised to find how much I enjoyed hearing the actors as they got more and more aroused even the guys.

Sorry to ramble but this was a very refreshing change from CH and I love CH!!!

[drdd2000]

I found and played this one a long time ago. I thought it was too easy, despite great scene selections. It could use music, beats, and more intensity or faster cuts. It should be almost impossible to get to the last of the chambers. I got to the end without much of a problem; I think I came close to losing it maybe once or twice.

[zingg]

Did you mind starting with hardcore content right away? Or would you prefer a build-up to more hard stuff?

I very much prefer just girls dancing and teasing, no males at all. Like it used to be in the very first cock heroes which featured well selected scenes that would actually turn me on, set to fitting music and simple beat instructions.

Nowadays it's all just random fucking with cuts every 3 seconds, nothing but blowjobs and cumshots for the last few rounds and males in half the shots. There's absolutely nothing erotic in that.

Judging by the screencaps this video is just the same, so I have zero interest in watching it.

I really wish creators would go back to that old style, but I guess I'm just that one weirdo here...

You're definitely not alone; I've been waiting for years to see a decent new CH video without a single dick in it. That said, the screencaps here look pretty damn good as far as hardcore goes, so I'm not completely discouraged about how much I'll enjoy this compilation when it finishes downloading. I'll leave more detailed feedback when I can.

[zenetix]

I found and played this one a long time ago. I thought it was too easy, despite great scene selections. It could use music, beats, and more intensity or faster cuts. It should be almost impossible to get to the last of the chambers. I got to the end without much of a problem; I think I came close to losing it maybe once or twice.

I agree - music, beats, make the difficulty increase over time until its almost impossible. Add increasing amounts of time edging, playing with your balls, switching hands, etc. The content is good in my opinion.

[supermokkori]

Firstly, thanks to everyone who participated in the poll - more thanks to those who replied with great feedback. Awesome responses here and all very useful.

I suspected most would want both music and a stroke beat; I definitely plan to be incorporating both though I will say I'll spend less time finding the "perfect" music to pair for scenes. My feeling is that it's good to have something like background music, but compared to previous compilations I've done, the music won't be a huge focus. I also plan to not have beats in certain sections and have it more "freestyle."

I should also say that while this is an "upcoming project" I probably won't have anything done till next year when I finally get a new computer - I'm currently using a 6-year old laptop that is beginning to show signs of slowing down. I'll keep curating scenes, making graphics and so on, but actual video editing won't happen till I boot up new computer in 2016.

Many of you requested edging to be incorporated and don't worry - I definitely plan to have "Edge N' Ride" fully incorporated into this compilation. My only question: can anyone think of different ways to incorporating edging well into a video tease rather than "Edge N Ride?" FYI, I don't want players to "pause" the video to do any activity as I think that really upsets the flow of a video tease.

I also plan on having a number of different exercises to compliment the overall stroking. This may include breathing techniques and kegel training. No toys - I want to keep it pretty simple.

Anyway, to reply directly to some of the feedback later, thanks everyone!

[servufon]

i liked the Miss Julie orange ball style edging, which even without a red-green motif could be incorporated in some fashion (notionally, not per se the orange ball descending but any sort of visual representation of coming edging, maintaining edging for a given time)

[schwuppe]

- Did you mind starting with hardcore content right away? Or would you prefer a build-up to more hard stuff?

For me switching to the hardcore content right away is fine, but I guess a short intro of the pornstar to come might also be cool with some chill music.


- Did you enjoy all the girl selections?

Yes yes yes yes yes. You're also natural fan, just like me, so I am d'accord with 95% of all the girls. Plus intensity in the scenes counts as well for you, which is also the hottest thing for me.

- If you participated on the poll, I would appreciate if you could elaborate on your selection: what type of beats, what type of music, should there be both, etc.,

For me no music at all could be fine, but I always imagine this martial arts style with some kind of rhythm in the background to symbolize the exercise being done to come to master level. So I'd like to have subtle music, as you also mentioned, more like background stuff that isn't too cheesy and too irritating either, and a rhythm that ebbs and floods through the whole movie.

- Was this challenge to easy? Too hard? Just about right? Too long or too short?

30-40 minutes is fine for me. Stroker Ace, although a monumental compilation of my favorite porn scenes, was too long in comparison (I guess you wanted to do something different there, too) so a nice 40 minutes version with short build ups, subtle and chill music and a "supporting" rhythm would be my favorite.

[Etoelyz]

Hello there,
I think its nice to have some poll
So this is what i think

- Did you mind starting with hardcore content right away? Or would you prefer a build-up to more hard stuff?
For me who usually already have an urge, i would prefer hardcore content right away. Because sometimes build-up takes time and make me do not want to continou anymore

- Did you enjoy all the girl selections?
Not really

- If you participated on the poll, I would appreciate if you could elaborate on your selection: what type of beats, what type of music, should there be both, etc.,
Here we go, i think whats make ch hero is a ch is because of the music and beat meter. Personally i alway love something more challange from these combination itself. R&B with slow beat then dance music thus a bit trance in the middle would be great. My fav ch maybe ch corrupt. Normal beat, left hand beat and suddenchange of music. Beat fariaton must have but dont be too much and too hard.

- Was this challenge to easy? Too hard? Just about right? Too long or too short?
Hrmmm i think 30min is good 1 hour sometimes too long.... but then again im not playing too long because it has no beat meter...