Can women suffer longer then men?

[RoniDev]

After reading the post if kristin get allowed to cum or not I was thinking about my situation right now. I'm locked up for just 5 days yet, so its not even close to what kristin had to go through yet and I'm already noticing how aroused I am. Dont get me wrong If I would get the permission right now to unlock myself and stroke then I would do so and I would really enjoy it, but shortly after I cummed I would feel a bit empty, cause I couldnt last longer. Its the denial I crave so much in. That endless teasing and the time I sit around in agony not knowing when I will be allowed to cum. There are a few other fetish I have, like feet. I crave for feet and I love to lick and kiss a women feet. I also like to be controlled to know that my mistress can have sex and fun anytime and doesnt allow me to have the same pleasure. She comes home and I would glady rub her feet for her and if she would give me the choice of kissing her feet after she was for 2 hours in the gym or to get to cum tonight. I would glady chose the first thing. I know that may sound strange yet... but it again has something to do with the denial of having an orgasm myself. It would really make me crazy, kissing or rubbing her feet gives me pleasure same as getting denied of having an orgasm and the strangest thing is that an orgasm is giving me pleasure too. So its not like that I dont want to cum or something if I wouldnt then I wouldnt crave for the denial of it in the first time, but what I'm wondering is how kristin feels and how others feel about such things. I know some guys here also like chastity, also after reading some of those wonderful women posts here I was wondering how the other guys can take all that suffering.

Right now I'm somehow really happy that I dont have any choice at all. I'm locked up in a chastity belt and if I like it or not... there is nothing I could do to change that. On the other side that helps me a lot, cause I know I'm very week and I'm really impressed if kristin isnt locked up in a chastity how she was able to stay chaste for that long. Myself I would probably cheated a long time ago. Not cause I want to cheat, its cause I'm to weak. The need to cum at one point turns of my thinking and it just happens, wearing a chastity belt helps cause when I reach that point then there is not much I could do against it. Sure yes I could destroy the belt or the lock and open it. But that much harder to do as just to stroke. When I read some posts here about how some guys are forced to edge over and over again but are not allowed to cum... wow... seriously I dont know if I would be able to do so... it would make me crazy and I would probably fall down on my knees and beg for getting locked up so I'm not able to cum even if I would want to.

So still have that question can women suffer longer then men?

[TheGraduate]

It depends on the woman and man in question. Try to claim women don't need orgasms at the rate men seem to, and you'll piss off quite a few women who find that they do. Try to claim men are physically predisposed to having to masturbate more often, and you'll piss off quite a few men who have low sex drives.

[RoniDev]

Sure yes its up to the individual of how much he or she can handle, but I'm still not sure if some people didnt cheat when they had to edge for so many times. Sure its also some kind of mind game... you want two things at the same time. You want to serve and dont dissapoint and you want to cum. So its allways that little fight between good and evil going on inside you.

[RoniDev]

So whats up guys and girls? Am I the only one who experienced "denial" so far? Only two people have something to say. I know kristin would probably have a lot to say about that topic, but I think she is a bit to excited about her "soon"(tm) orgasm.

Its one week for me now that I got locked up. Balls ache and most of the day I have a stiffy (well as far as that is possible to have inside a chastity tube). I think about sex all day long (ok I did that before too) just now I wish I could think about something else, it would make it much easier... Can I suffer any longer? Sure I can, its just... oh well... But no I'm not starting to beg right now - its only a week...

[tzdndenied]

So whats up guys and girls? Am I the only one who experienced "denial" so far? Only two people have something to say. I know kristin would probably have a lot to say about that topic, but I think she is a bit to excited about her "soon"(tm) orgasm.

Its one week for me now that I got locked up. Balls ache and most of the day I have a stiffy (well as far as that is possible to have inside a chastity tube). I think about sex all day long (ok I did that before too) just now I wish I could think about something else, it would make it much easier... Can I suffer any longer? Sure I can, its just... oh well... But no I'm not starting to beg right now - its only a week...

RoniDev,

a lot to say...are you saying i talk a lot!

Well i have experienced denial...50 plus days and still counting...your at a week...right now gals last longer than guys. Wait till you hit 50, see how sex addled your brain is then...

Personally, i believe a woman could last longer than a man, a male is more apt to have a nocturnal emission. In addition, males require "milking" for health reasons, while the "milking" release is not orgasmically pleasurable and the desire to cum is still there, i believe that physiological need to orgasm has been lessened...therefore, the comparison between a male or female lasting longer can not be adequetely quanitifed...while a female does not require that type of release, the psychological and physiological need to orgasm is greater.

The ability to last longer without orgasm is not really a physiological reason, it's psychological...if the desire to hold back is there, no matter how great the desire to orgasm is, you will hold back...in my case, the desire to cum is overwhelming sometimes, the desire, the need to wait to please Miss Arianna is greater, the need to find out how long i can go, is greater...i have thought about, getting myself off a time or two...that thought immediately dismissed, i'd consider it cheating on Miss Arianna, as well as cheating myself, i would never be able to find my limits...which is after all why i started my journey...to find myself.

This is probably a topic that could be debated until the cows (giggles, funny reference to milking) come home, and still no clear cut "winner" would be able to be determined. Believe it's one of the unwinnable debates like which came first, the chicken or the egg.

Good luck on your journey of orgasmic denial...hope you reach your goal!

kristin

[Arianna]

Hmm, to really debate that question you would first of all need to define "suffer" precisely.
Are we speaking only of denial with some teasing, or do we also include pain and other tasks?
Is milking included and would we regard a ruined orgasm as still being denied?

As Kristin mentioned, for health reasons it is necessary that a guy gets milked regulary. So if that is excluded it is pretty obvious that women could last longer.

Is "suffer" only defined as living without an orgasm, there will be no winner.
From my exprience I can say that some guys are able to live without an orgasm for a long time. Even know a couple where she denied him now for nearly a year. His last orgasm was around Christmas 2007 and so far it isn't intended to end his denial. But they're married for 13 years now and started with T&D over 10 years ago. You can see it took them a lot of time to get this far.

Training, as always, is the difference.

Arianna

[Foxhawke]

Even know a couple where she denied him now for nearly a year. His last orgasm was around Christmas 2007 and so far it isn't intended to end his denial. But they're married for 13 years now and started with T&D over 10 years ago. You can see it took them a lot of time to get this far.

*whimpers*

wow, that is a long time.

[tzdndenied]

Training, as always, is the difference.
Arianna

Training!

Why does Miss Arianna posting this have me worried!


kristin

[tzdndenied]

*whimpers*
wow, that is a long time.

*whimpers* somehow that doesn't quite express it adequately enough!

kristin

[Foxhawke]

*whimpers* somehow that doesn't quite express it adequately enough!

I couldn't think of a stronger version of it, so it had to do...

[Jaberwocky]

When you put aside the medical needs,..

Men can sufferr more

Not much experience, but if I'm not mistaken, chastity belts for men are better in keeping it's captive from orgasm than their female counter parts. btw, I am refering to the real chasity belts, to avoid discussions about the security of the ''cheaper chastity devices.

(and the best toys to stimulate it's user are toys for women,... not fair )

[tzdndenied]

and the best toys to stimulate it's user are toys for women,... not fair

fair, very fair!

kristin

[RoniDev]

Well i have experienced denial...50 plus days and still counting...your at a week...right now gals last longer than guys. Wait till you hit 50, see how sex addled your brain is then...

I'm already at the point where I cannot think about anything else anymore and its just day 9 now.

Personally, i believe a woman could last longer than a man, a male is more apt to have a nocturnal emission. In addition, males require "milking" for health reasons, while the "milking" release is not orgasmically pleasurable and the desire to cum is still there, i believe that physiological need to orgasm has been lessened...therefore, the comparison between a male or female lasting longer can not be adequetely quanitifed...while a female does not require that type of release, the psychological and physiological need to orgasm is greater.

Yes I have to start those "milking" sessions too and this will be the only chance for me at least some "steam" off. But from erlier experiences with it. It doesnt really last long, it helps you sometimes only a few minutes and then you are back to where you were before the milking. Also that desire to touch your cock and stimulate it and having an orgasm still stays. I think that women may have it a bit easiere here, cause they dont need that kind of stimulation means also that they are not constantly getting remembered and putted back into a state or hornyness. "Milking" yourself can be really frustrating, cause it makes you even more horny as you were before. Sure it gives you some kind of release but at least for me that sometimes only lasts a few minutes and dont forget that "milking" can also be very humiliating to do so.

The ability to last longer without orgasm is not really a physiological reason, it's psychological...if the desire to hold back is there, no matter how great the desire to orgasm is, you will hold back...in my case, the desire to cum is overwhelming sometimes, the desire, the need to wait to please Miss Arianna is greater, the need to find out how long i can go, is greater...i have thought about, getting myself off a time or two...that thought immediately dismissed, i'd consider it cheating on Miss Arianna, as well as cheating myself, i would never be able to find my limits...which is after all why i started my journey...to find myself.

Its the same with me and a really cruel thing is that and thats a bit hard to explain to someone who didnt experience orgasm control and denial yet. You are horny and want to cum, but the denial makes you even hornier so you crave for the denial till you reach a point where your mind just goes crazy and then you start to fight with yourself and are about to lose your selfcontrol. Its like good and evil inside you fighting.

This is probably a topic that could be debated until the cows (giggles, funny reference to milking) come home, ...

Thats not funny girl, but I have to admit that reading that sentence my mind just went crazy. Now you know why milking can be humiliating for a men, I dont want to feel like a cow

Good luck on your journey of orgasmic denial...hope you reach your goal!

kristin

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Thank you kristin, but I think I already reached my goal, where goal doesnt really fit. Cause I dont have a goal more or less. Well my goal is to be a good boy and do what told. Right now its just some crazy ride and a wonderful experience into uncharted waters and wondering who far it will go and if there will ever be a way back home afterwards.

[RoniDev]

Hmm, to really debate that question you would first of all need to define "suffer" precisely.
Are we speaking only of denial with some teasing, or do we also include pain and other tasks?
Is milking included and would we regard a ruined orgasm as still being denied?

As Kristin mentioned, for health reasons it is necessary that a guy gets milked regulary. So if that is excluded it is pretty obvious that women could last longer.

Is "suffer" only defined as living without an orgasm, there will be no winner.
From my exprience I can say that some guys are able to live without an orgasm for a long time. Even know a couple where she denied him now for nearly a year. His last orgasm was around Christmas 2007 and so far it isn't intended to end his denial. But they're married for 13 years now and started with T&D over 10 years ago. You can see it took them a lot of time to get this far.

Training, as always, is the difference.

Arianna

You are right Arianna and there are different ways of making someone "suffer". Physical pain as an example is something I dont really like, but I could prob. take a good amount of it. I'm someone who isnt scared at the thought of having an dentist coming with the syringe as an example. For me the physiological side of bdsm is much more important. I dont crave spanking and stuff like that, it doesnt really give me anything. But the look of a women and her finger pointing down at the ground. She doesnt even has to say anything. Just that feeling that she is superior and that I have to show her better some respect. Even the right words can often hurt me much more as any whip could do. A degrading laughter, or comment etc.

Sure yes physical "suffering" is also needed sometimes. Even if its only that you are bound and gagged and left alone for hours or that you have to stand on your toes and bend your knees and have to hold that position. A slap on your cheeks or to spank your cock etc. there is nothing wrong about that and that makes you suffer too but there again... I think men are very senistive at their testicles, like in selffighting for women you get teached to kick a men into his nuts. It causes serious pain and can even knock him out on the other side a women doesnt have that kind of "physical weekness" meaning that she probably could suffer longer cause has it much easier and when I see a women giving birth and seeing how much pain she can handle at that moment. I'm really not sure about men then...

[RoniDev]

and the best toys to stimulate it's user are toys for women,... not fair

fair, very fair!

kristin

Stop that! bad girl! ;)

No its really not fair When you have such a toy in your drawer as a women and some of your friends would find out about it well it wouldnt be that embarrassing, but as a guy? and having to actually use those toy on yourself. Its really not fair.