Prostate massage help

[Laph_]

This must be one of those questions that people ask about all the time on forums like this one, so let me apologize in advance if this seems too repetitive.

It's just that I've tried to achieve a prostate orgasm for a long time now, hell, even prostate milking would do, but I just can't get it to work. I was wondering if anyone on this forum might have managed to do it and if they (or anyone else) could give me some pointers.

I've tried having a prostate orgasm for 3 years now with the help of my fingers, all kinds of prostate toys and dildos, in different positions and with different techniques, without any results.

I don't think I have a problem with finding the prostate, it's just that it doesn't feel any more like a g-spot for me than my elbow. I feel the lump, I rub it and then what? Every time I ever feel like something is "building up" it's a bowel movement.

Should I just try to ignore the bowel movement, or does the feeling of a bowel movement alone mean I'm doing something wrong from the beginning? How are you massaging your prostate? How about the inner anal sphincter (is that what it's called, the deeper muscle ring?), it feels like my prostate is very close to it, am I going too far if I'm going behind it?

I've searched all over the net for more hints and information, but it seems as though there are a million guides for beginners, but nothing for someone who's tried for as long as I have.

All these guides for beginners explain the same bullshit about how you should take deep breaths, rub your balls gently, rub your perineum and slowly move over to your anus, get used to the feeling of it being touched, lube up one finger and carefully insert it, move up to two fingers bla bla. These guides all seem to be targeted for homophobic idiots who think touching your ass makes you gay. When these guides finally come to describing the actual massaging they vaguely describe how far in the prostate approximately should be and that you should rub it. NO SHIT SHERLOCK! Where's the guide that fucking starts off by saying "First, ram two fingers up your butt.", and then describe the actual massaging instead.

I'm starting to lose hope and I'm beginning to think that prostate orgasm is nothing but a myth created by the internet to keep men forever seeking and frustrated. Has anyone got any hints they could share with me? Anything at all would be helpful.

What has worked for you?

[akds1337]

I've only ever had prostate assisted orgasms so far. However, I honestly feel that if I had more self control I could have had a prostate only orgasm.

My suggestion, stroke yourself to the edge, or at least close to it, then start to move the toy and find just that right spot.

Then once you've located it, flex your PC muscle (the one that makes your cock jump when you flex it) Flex that muscle in time with pressure from your toy. If you're doing that right you just might get over that edge from anal alone. The next step is doing almost that same thing, but much farther from the edge. Now you're basically relying on just the P-spot. I hope this helps at least a little.

[wtrrosi]

It is real.

Did you try Aneros? Even if you don't want to spend the money I would suggest reading their support guides and forums. I can help you with Aneros stuff if you want to give it a try.

Pot helps. A lot. Fish oil helps too. No caffeine.

[akds1337]

can you explain the fish oil and caffeine to me?

[Laph_]

I've only ever had prostate assisted orgasms so far. However, I honestly feel that if I had more self control I could have had a prostate only orgasm.

My suggestion, stroke yourself to the edge, or at least close to it, then start to move the toy and find just that right spot.

Then once you've located it, flex your PC muscle (the one that makes your cock jump when you flex it) Flex that muscle in time with pressure from your toy. If you're doing that right you just might get over that edge from anal alone. The next step is doing almost that same thing, but much farther from the edge. Now you're basically relying on just the P-spot. I hope this helps at least a little.

Hmm, I do try flexing my PC muscle often, and have also tried edging BEFORE trying to massage my prostate. I'll try doing them at the same time and see if that helps. Thank you!

It is real.

Did you try Aneros? Even if you don't want to spend the money I would suggest reading their support guides and forums. I can help you with Aneros stuff if you want to give it a try.

Pot helps. A lot. Fish oil helps too. No caffeine.

I have three prostate massaging toys.

I have the Nexus G-play Small, where the "small" part seems to be a bit of a problem. It's a nice sensation, but if feels like it doesn't quite reach there.
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I also have the Bad Boy Rocks Off, which I at the moment of purchase thought would slip in entirely and stay comfortably in place. Turns out it makes a really sharp curve, so that if I wanted to insert the last lump it would tear me up and stick out of my belly. Now it just wants to slip out and feels weird. Yes, they say it's flexible and in theory yes, it is, but as soon as you let go of it it springs back into its original shape with such a force that you'll want to cover your eyes.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4 ... SY300_.jpg

The last one I have is the Evolved Love Handle, which I actually really like and easily is my favorite one so far. It isn't too big and reaches the right spot nicely. Your spot wont go numb from the vibrator either, since it's got so many modes to chose from that it gives you a great variety. For some reason though, I haven't really gotten anywhere near an orgasm with it yet.

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So those, plus a handful of buttplugs and dildos.

I don't have access to pot. Fish oil tastes really bad and also seems like an odd hint.
The caffeine thing I can easily understand as I have a sensitive stomach and it could get messy

Thanks for replying.

[akds1337]

HA! I have the bad boy too, and the Evolved "get a grip" which looks identical to the love handle except black.

the bad boy one is really tough for me to fully insert, but it doesn't need to be to get it to hit the prostate. If you have it in as far as you can personally get it, then try and remove it some, you'll kinda notice the tip rubs the prostate pretty roughly, if you can do a sort of "fucking" motion or "rocking" motion with it at the right depth it just might do the trick for you. You can kinda do the same with the Evolved one, but it's harder material and smaller so I feel like it's a little too "pokey"

[woodyk]

Not every guy is built the same, and this applies to accessibility and responsiveness of the prostate. Some guys get turned on really quickly by prostate stimulation, but others feel little sensation (such as yourself), and some guys really don't like the feel of anal stimulation. (The same thing applies to women, as some are "built" for anal, but others don't like it at all.) I agree with your comment about the Bad Boy. I have one and thought it would be the ultimate, but it is a bit too big to fit comfortably and does tend to slide out. One toy you should try is called the "Glo Vibrating Pop Plug". This is a relatively small anal vibrator with a nice round end bulb. It should fit nicely near your prostate and has a moderate vibrator that should give you some sensations. You should also determine if you need "bigger" or "smaller". I have found for me that real prostate stimulation requires rather aggressive rubbing to produce an ejaculation, so a more fuller feeling may be what you need. On the other hand, smaller plugs can provide more comfort and gentle, but constant stimulation that builds up over time. That constant stimulation should help build up to a pretty good orgasm. You need to relax and not be tensed. Some probes are awkward to use, and this totally ruins the effect. By the way, if you just use a regular vibrator on your penis, can you get enough stimulation to ejaculate by this? If you can, they at least you know you have some sensitivity in the area to this type of stimulation.

[Nezhul]

never been able to get off on prostate massage alone, however it adds to orgasms.

[jackstock]

try poppers

[AliceInBondageLand]

All men are built differently. It sounds to me as if you have an "angle" problem.

Trying it with a friend would help... if there isn't someone that you can trust in that way perhaps try a dildo that can mount to the wall or wedge it into something to hold it for you.

A lot of it is about angle and the type of stimulation, pressure vs vibration vs rubbing, etc will all feel different on the different internal parts from different angles.

Also, not all men can orgasm from "just" prostate stimulation, though it tends to get you pretty juicy (prostate is where the "filler" fluid for semen comes from, sugar water to feed sperm on their journey).