Captured, bound and at the mercy....of who?

[cumhardy]

I mostly imagine myself going back to inflict terrible tease and denial on my ex's.
The real horrible ex's I think about going back to them and being an evil clit tease. Teasing them day and night without relief until they leave out of frustration, or I just throw them out without any relief.

Its a weird place for me!

[Marke]

What's that Smith's song about Manchester? So much to answer for. LOL

[cumhardy]

What's that Smith's song about Manchester? So much to answer for. LOL

Man, you say your from Manchester and everyone assumes your a Smiths fan!
Actually I dont know the song....? Hmmm

[pagankinktress]

You bring up an intriguing point...and I often wonder, in reality how feasible submitting to a genuinely sadistic and nasty woman truly is for most submissives. In terms of the fantasy element, sure, it's kind of hot and filthy to think about being in terrible predicament with a ruthless domme holding the reins. But I wonder if that would get old fast?

There sometimes is the misconception that all dommes are hardcore and bitchy too. Not true. Some of the most effective dommes I've known are those who can bend their subs will with a cunning, psychologically skillful and even "sweet" approach. :)

Interesting thoughts...and bottom line, there's no right or wrong when it comes down to what we fantasize about.

The basic idea is nothing new – just browsing the teases here reveals the women doing the dominating are often sadistic and nasty rather than sweet. I even get more specific than this in my fantasising: I’ll sometimes create a dominant fantasy woman in my mind who holds an exact opposite ethical or moral principle to myself. For example, a woman who is racist or something like that.

They’re all different facets of the same psychological process I suspect. The common theme when you wittle it down seems to be the idea of being forced in someway to submit to something you don’t want to. So coming back to the original thing: submitting to someone you don’t like – very unextraordinary really.

[cumhardy]

I often wonder, in reality how feasible submitting to a genuinely sadistic and nasty woman truly is for most submissives.

Hi and welcome :)

For me, there is a definate difference between stuff that I would actually want to happen and fantasies that should just stay in my head!

Anyway, the fantasy I have about being taken to Guantanamo Bay "Cocktease Division" run by female soldiers and forced to maintain a constant erection for 3 days straight whilst in stress positions listening to white noise...
not much chance of that happening...

...not much chance at all...

.................is there?

[toybdsm]

I think free's point about someone that I am not getting along with is a good 1. A situation where she is sort of taking out frustrations or getting me or teaching me a lession is right on. The forced thing is a great turn on & how do I get forced to do stuff I like. I mean come on guys is it really forced to be treated like a sex object by a beautiful woman we really want anyway.

But on the other hand, I am a big believer this has to be a win/win. I am very bothered by the attitude that many have about "give to me. forget about you." This is sex after all. So its better when truly concential & both parties are into it. So the idea of being forced to do something I would normally be for but not right now balances the 2 sides the best for me.

Final answer, I want to be attracted (physically) to the person I am with.

[wiggyone]

a friend of mine...she's the one person I would ever hook up with if things were different...but we've explored some fantasys...it'd be fun...but she goes farther than I normally do.

very erotic, very exciting, pushing the boundaries of things I already do.

plus, safety. I could not do this if I didn't know I was in a safe position

[Dwells]

It's an interesting topic, I always had a sexual fantasy as a teenager of being seduced a one of the hotter girls in my class , before she ties me up and leaves me with a girl I found ugly... glad to know I wasn't alone.

I incorporated this into a tease I wrote, right at the end.

http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=991

[pagankinktress]

Hi Cumhardy,

Thanks for the welcome. I totally hear you on the difference between what looks and sounds good in the fantasy realm and what it is we actually feel comfortable doing in our regular life. I think they key is to finding some sort of balance between the two.

Now, about your Cocktease at Guantanamo Bay fantasy....I'd say it's probably not as likely to be able to carry out in the whole nine yards as you described...but who knows...maybe you can hook up with some militant female who lives for tormenting horny boys just because she can... ;)

Hi and welcome :)

For me, there is a definate difference between stuff that I would actually want to happen and fantasies that should just stay in my head!

Anyway, the fantasy I have about being taken to Guantanamo Bay "Cocktease Division" run by female soldiers and forced to maintain a constant erection for 3 days straight whilst in stress positions listening to white noise...
not much chance of that happening...

...not much chance at all...

.................is there?

[free]

Hey cumhardy, loved ur tease. Congrats! Should you feel inclined, just know that more definitely wouldn't go unappreciated!

Ahh...now that's a different fantasy. It's one thing to fantasize about a woman even more horrible then the entire film of Dr. Zhivago, and it's another to fantasize about a woman that hates you.

Well they are clearly not the same thing as each other but I think there's an argument for them being related based upon the excitement induced by the notion of submitting to something that you don't want to or that you feel you shouldn't.

The forced thing is a great turn on & how do I get forced to do stuff I like. I mean come on guys is it really forced to be treated like a sex object by a beautiful woman we really want anyway.

Seems to me you kind of make the point yourself here: of course it's a paradox to be forced to do something that you voluntairly choose to do. But as you say yourself: the "forced thing is a great turn on" and thats why I've been careful to talk about the notion/idea/fantasy of being forced to do something - distinct as always from the reality of non-consent.

You bring up an intriguing point...and I often wonder, in reality how feasible submitting to a genuinely sadistic and nasty woman truly is for most submissives. In terms of the fantasy element, sure, it's kind of hot and filthy to think about being in terrible predicament with a ruthless domme holding the reins. But I wonder if that would get old fast?

There sometimes is the misconception that all dommes are hardcore and bitchy too. Not true. Some of the most effective dommes I've known are those who can bend their subs will with a cunning, psychologically skillful and even "sweet" approach. :)

Interesting thoughts...and bottom line, there's no right or wrong when it comes down to what we fantasize about.

I liked all these musings and just wanted to pay them lip-service. I also second cumhardy's welcome! Most exciting to have you around!

It's an interesting topic, I always had a sexual fantasy as a teenager of being seduced a one of the hotter girls in my class , before she ties me up and leaves me with a girl I found ugly... glad to know I wasn't alone.

I incorporated this into a tease I wrote, right at the end.

http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=991

I remember that tease and loved it - thanks for sharing!

On physical attraction... I don't really know if you'd class my interest in unattractiveness as physical attraction to that unattractiveness or not. On one level: yes - my body makes physical responses and my mind is stimulated by such imagery. On a physical level, and to some extent emotional, there is little difference in my response to a "hot" girl or an "ugly" girl; except perhaps in intensity of response depending on what I'm more in the mood for at the time.

I'm also genuinely not repulsed by many girls that most would consider ugly. Rolls of fat for example - not really a big deal for me, I can be cool with it without having to turn it into a kink to tolerate it; but then also of course I enjoy playing along with the taboo that it's gross to think of doing certain things with someone hugely physically unattractive. Which I think brings to light another interesting point: taboos can be used for sexual arousal regardless of whether that taboo has any significance in reality for an individual. As in this case: I can psychologically use the social norm of being repulsed by an extremely unattractive female to gain arousal (by going against this social norm in my mind and therefore transforming it into taboo) while in real life I am not repulsed and dont myself fit into this norm. I think a common example of this idea would be non-religious people who nevertheless revel in the taboo of linking religious settings/outfits/objects etc with erotica. For them it's not taboo in reality - but the taboo can still be used fantastically (ie in fantasy) to successfully achieve arousal. "Taboo": what a delicously elusive, broad-encompassing, abstract idea. Is anyone else out there just fascinated by taboo like me?!

Oh..extra edit...: on the fantasising about being dominated by a girl I've fallen out with in real-life: I see it as a rare oportunity to get a higher state of arousal: because you're mixing actual real emotions in to the fantasy - and those real emotions give the fantasy an extra strength and vividness - feels more real! I recommend it - it's a rush! And just to pre-empt possible comments: it doesn't mean one is incapable of taking the fall-out seriously. That doesn't follow logically.

[chastitywil1179]

i'm going with the idea of being at the mercy of a total stranger.

The unknown factor of being in the clutches of an EVIL DOMINATRIX who doesn't know and just as importantly, doesn't care, about my limits.
She may be drop dead gorgeous or living-dead ugly, but at the end of the day SHE'S IN CHARGE.

Imagine being tied spreadeagled and open and forced to cum, over and over again by someone you personally find unattractive.

i'd love to try it someday.

[dark]

– sometimes you’ve had an argument with a female friend or something and they’ve made you real mad and angry, maybe even very upset. Then it is sooo hot for me to imagine submitting totally to them and being humiliated and used by them.

.

That is great that was fun to read.. thank you for sharing.

Nikki

I agree with that point free. I also had this fantasy, even in High School (in Germany it's not called High School but who cares) when I was 13 or so. It was a girl who gave me a face slap in front of my whole class, because we had a dispute. Of course as s a young guy in my puberty I acted pretty "cool", acted like it didn't hurt and gave back some verbal insults. I really hated her over the day. It was true hate. But when I was at home later in the evening it turned me on so much while I fantasized about submitting to her and surrendering to her. I was broken: I was still hating her (got even trouble with teachers etc), but on the other thing I wanted to serve her badly. I remember that I thought it would be wrong to see her as my Mistress, but that thought of wrongness even made it more interesting.

That feeling never got away. After years I've seen her when I was around 20. I tried to talk to her, we both were not angry anymore, because we were kids when it happened. Unfortunately we both were very different. There was no connection. So nothing more happened.

But the fantasy to serve her got never away, never.

Thank you free, for sharing your thing, so I was able to remember

[Lindsey]

You bring up an intriguing point...and I often wonder, in reality how feasible submitting to a genuinely sadistic and nasty woman truly is for most submissives. In terms of the fantasy element, sure, it's kind of hot and filthy to think about being in terrible predicament with a ruthless domme holding the reins. But I wonder if that would get old fast?

There sometimes is the misconception that all dommes are hardcore and bitchy too. Not true. Some of the most effective dommes I've known are those who can bend their subs will with a cunning, psychologically skillful and even "sweet" approach. :)

Interesting thoughts...and bottom line, there's no right or wrong when it comes down to what we fantasize about.

You...get 2 thumbs up. ;)

[dark]

You bring up an intriguing point...and I often wonder, in reality how feasible submitting to a genuinely sadistic and nasty woman truly is for most submissives. In terms of the fantasy element, sure, it's kind of hot and filthy to think about being in terrible predicament with a ruthless domme holding the reins. But I wonder if that would get old fast?

There sometimes is the misconception that all dommes are hardcore and bitchy too. Not true. Some of the most effective dommes I've known are those who can bend their subs will with a cunning, psychologically skillful and even "sweet" approach. :)

Interesting thoughts...and bottom line, there's no right or wrong when it comes down to what we fantasize about.

You...get 2 thumbs up. ;)

I agree to that, too. For me the imagination of a nasty Mistress in leather with a whip who screams and is only sadistic is horrible. In a fantasy this bad and loud Mistress could turn me on.

But the difference of fantasy and reality is so big. I know I don't wanna live out the most of my sexual fantasies. To keep some things mysterious is the best way to keep your life interesting.

[Marke]

Submission to be enjoyable for me has to be mentally stimulating.

I liked the high school post Dark. I can relate to taht. I used to get teased a bit by "mean girls" and it started me on a slippery slope. I think it is a defensive mechanism? I don't know. Will have to think about it.