Percentage of submissive men, percentage of dominant women ?

[peter42]

There are a lot of websites out there with pictures, stories and videos made for submissive men. Within the material you will find beautiful woman acting as strict dominas.

What about real life? What do you think is the percentage of men, who truly have a submissive nature, i.e. enjoying being dominated? And what do you think is the percentage of women, who truly have a dominant nature, i.e enjoying being dominant?

[anything4utvbi]

Submissive men, I recon 30%

Dominant women, I'd say 1% (sadly)

Good question, I'd like to see other opinions.

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[crazyxxx]

Thanks to the Internet, you don't have to worry aboyt the percentage anymore :) For any given niche, you'll find enough people to spend your whole life with, see http://xkcd.com/305/ and http://rule34.paheal.net/. Unless you want IRL contact, that might be more difficult. But it's still about finding a site with enough people in your niche _and_ your area :)

[SexualChoc]

well there is a difference between being submissive

and liking denial!
as for domme's
well you may want to look at this link!!!
http://www.phoneadom.com/usa-dominatrix ... ctory.html
a nice list of domme's... I didn't know Kansas had any!! (there some nice European links too!)
now are they you pay for it kind??
of Course!!!

but it is a nice comprehensive list isn't it?

[supermokkori]

Not to be a jackass (even tho, that's a specialty), but shouldn't this be in the "All And Everything" section?

[Nezhul]

There'll be a long introduction, so bear with it or skip it =)
First of all, you should count cultural differences of different nations, because they stimulate different behaviour. For example, I very much doubt that there are as many submissive men in some strict Islam country, as there are in USA, where emotional freedom is higher. I doubt that there are a lot of fetishists, including those into femdom, in the poorest countries of Africa - they simply don't have time for that.
But there are much more countries and nations in the world, about which I can't tell anything, because I know so little about their actual daily life and cultural atmosphere.
That's my opinion.
Other thing is that girls are naturally more submissive and men - dominant. Why? Because female gender is much more emotionally active, and you may even call it unstable. The range of emotions and their strength is much higher than men's. That leads to the need of some support and stable ground, some element that she can always be sure about, and this element is a man, a husbend, so women rely on this man to feel more at ease and get rid of some stress. Of course, men do rely on their partner too, but in a different way. If women use men as some safe vent for their emotional nature, the person who will be there when she's crying and when she's ecstatic, i.e. when she's mentally weak and unprotected, MEN rely on the women as on some element to make their life seem sucessfull and complete. That is a HUDGE simplification, of course, but men do tend to treat their partner as some kind of a prize, a sign that they have achieved something important in their personal developement.
Don't throw rocks at me now, I'm talking about our deep nature stripped from social influences. If we look back at our pure natural side, at our side as just smart animals, we'll see that man views women as his property, his achievement, and women views men as a source of life, food and protection. After mere 10000 years nothing much changed, except there is society now, that goes on about equal rights and such, which changes our behaviour, but the trend of man being stronger is still there. That's why women are genetically more submissive: their body is weaker, they need a lot of support to bear their emotions, they need a lot of protection, especially during pregnacy, They can't work physically as much, and a lot of their strength is concentrated on their child and their home. There's a lot of physical and psychological aspects to it.

Now, finally, to the main point. I can estimate only RUSSIA, because I haven't been living anywhere else. Our culture now is at a poor state, and a lot of young people act completely genderless, i.e. the same. However the wooden psychology somewhat remains, and any fetish is considered BAD. In this regard, our young girls are much more open for new ideas than guys. for 90% of Russian men the idea of strap on equates to being a gay, and that equates to being the lowest scum you could possibly imagine, thus completely unacceptible. Hell, when I read russian sex forum, some men said that going down to lick womens pussy is unacceptible, and you stop being a real man. Can you imagine that?
So, the percentage of people who are OKAY with playing femdom games I'd say is about
Men: 3%, and about 5-8% if their ass remains unpenetrated.
Women: ~5%.
The percentages who want and CRAVE femdom is less than 1% for both genders, IMO.

[SexualChoc]

Actual
Nezhul I agree with your statistical summery
not just for russia, but heare in the USA as well...
I can not remember Where I saw the article
but 1% of population was into BSDM
and less the denial kink was considered to be smaller than that.

[nullset]

According to the Wikipedia pages on BDSM and Femdom the prevalence of interest* in BDSM and Femdom/Male submission runs something like this:

- Percent of sexual relationships estimated to have some BDSM activity: 5 to 25% based on how you define BDSM and who's asking
- Gender split of people active in BDSM: roughly 70/30 male to female (in 1985, wonder if it has changed much?)
- Percent of women active in BDSM who identify as submissive: 89%
- Percent of men active in BDSM who identify as dominant: 71%

So if we assume that every female that doesn't call herself a sub is a domme and every male who doesn't call himself a dom is a sub, then the percentages are 11% of women active in BDSM are dominant and 29% of the men are submissive. If you split the difference on the first stat and claim 15% of people are in BDSM and some US population stats you get:

-About 1% of all women are both active in BDSM and dominant
-About 6% of all men are both active in BDSM and submissive
In the US this works out to an estimated:
-1.2 Million Dominant Women over the age of 18
-7.3 Million Submissive Men over the age of 18

So the percentages are pretty small, but the actual number of people is still pretty big.

*Per Nezhul's point, I would assume these stats mostly only apply to the US/Western World, but you'd have to check the studies Wikipedia references to be sure.

[14REICH88]

According to the Wikipedia pages on BDSM and Femdom the prevalence of interest* in BDSM and Femdom/Male submission runs something like this:

- Percent of sexual relationships estimated to have some BDSM activity: 5 to 25% based on how you define BDSM and who's asking
- Gender split of people active in BDSM: roughly 70/30 male to female (in 1985, wonder if it has changed much?)
- Percent of women active in BDSM who identify as submissive: 89%
- Percent of men active in BDSM who identify as dominant: 71%

So if we assume that every female that doesn't call herself a sub is a domme and every male who doesn't call himself a dom is a sub, then the percentages are 11% of women active in BDSM are dominant and 29% of the men are submissive. If you split the difference on the first stat and claim 15% of people are in BDSM and some US population stats you get:

-About 1% of all women are both active in BDSM and dominant
-About 6% of all men are both active in BDSM and submissive
In the US this works out to an estimated:
-1.2 Million Dominant Women over the age of 18
-7.3 Million Submissive Men over the age of 18

So the percentages are pretty small, but the actual number of people is still pretty big.

*Per Nezhul's point, I would assume these stats mostly only apply to the US/Western World, but you'd have to check the studies Wikipedia references to be sure.

The stats are sad Wish there were more people. I like to be a sub in bdsm but i dont understand why people like denial, like if i wanna cum, then IM GONNA cum.

[peter42]

Well, I doubt, that the numbers resulting form official surveys reflect the truth. If you are asked by the interviewer about your sexual behavior, most people will answer, what is political correct.

I think, that sexuality is very asymetric. A guy is turned on by the female body, a girl however, is not turned on by the male body (but because the guy is turned on). Striptease is a basic form of femdom and almost all men like it (and many girls seem to enjoy to perform it). So I wonder, whether is any kind of experiment that would find out the true disposition of men and women.

[Nezhul]

Striptease is NOT any form of femdom. It's STRIPTEASE. It's the act of turning the arousal of the partner using your body language. It's the art of taking clothes off in the sexiest way possible. It does not include any form of power exchange, which defines submissive-dominant relationship. Striptease can be performed by vanilla people as well as submissive girls, and dominants. Now if striptease is used to tease and deny on purpose - it may be femdom, but it is secondary. Handjob may be used as femdom activity, even penetration can be used in a femdom play. You don't call all of that femdom acts! You can't say the girls in the strip club are dominant because they have no intention to have sex with you afterwards.

Also, women ARE turned on by male's body. It may be of less importance to them, in comparison with men's lust for female body, but this element still presists. There are male striptease, if you didn't know, which has it's popularity.

[peter42]

Male striptease does exist, however, it consists of giggling women making fun of themselves. They do it in order to feel liberated; they are not aroused. Female striptease is watched by silent men, sticked to their seats, with hard-ons, paralysed. I would consider this to be some kind of domination.