[Old Release - Jan. 14, 20]Hand to Gland Combat, Mission: 02

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Cooool, I've been checking in on it every so often, right now I've only got 2 peers downloading. I'll be letting it run for at least a week, so worry not!

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I'm one of those peers. I'll seed it for weeks. Full upload rate. :wave: :cool:
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is there a torrent?
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found the torrent cant wait, im also downloading the hq version of the first one cause the lower quility is a bit discolored, cant wait to try them both.
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Haggard316 wrote:found the torrent cant wait, im also downloading the hq version of the first one cause the lower quility is a bit discolored, cant wait to try them both.
I'll say this much, the first one is loooong. I've never actually gotten through it myself! Learning process and all, haha!
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This release is great! Solid all the way, but the warmup and reward rounds are even better this time. Great job!
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Very nicely done! Especially as an improvement over the last one. You really polished up the mechanics and kept your own style. I especially like the song choices, the interesting beats, and the themes for each round. I think the more diverse music lends itself to more interesting beats, so those two go together I guess. I'm really glad you added a beat meter, as I think it's what sets the genre apart from a simple compilation or music video rework.

-- Not sure where to put this, but let's put it here. While I like the song choices and the beats, I think one or two more beat types per round would've been good. Many rounds, and maybe round 6 in particular, was very repetitive even though I really liked it. The nice thing about "real" music that isn't electronic/club/techno/whatever is that you can usually find a few different rhythms overlayed to choose from, and one thing you did pick up on well was that they have a better sense of pacing to them in terms of intense parts and mellow parts.

There was one thing that was kind of odd with the beat meter... mostly in rounds 2, 3, and 6. Whenever there was a quick pair of beats (e.g. 12--1---), it felt off somehow. I don't think it was the wrong tempo, but if I understand how the beat tracks are made it may have been slightly offset or something. Oh, and another thing here... since your beatmeter was opaque (which I think is fine), you might want to just shift it down a bit more if you can, to not have the sliver of background video below it.

I did actually make it through the whole video without losing (including edging each reward round, all the way until the final one, which I kinda skipped through because the girl and the scene weren't doing it for me), which I wasn't expecting to do because when I skipped through it last night it seemed very up-tempo all the way through and figured I'd lose it early. The fast triples in round 5 had me nervous but I found a steady state. I'd say I enjoyed round 3 and 6 the most, because I liked the scenes and the songs the best. The xart/passion/etc videos are probably my favorites as a whole, so I was planning on just finishing up there on the reward section, but I figured I'd see how far I could go. :) Like I said, I kinda skipped through the last reward, so I went back to reward 3 to finally finish.

Who's the girl in the school scene in round 6? She kinda reminds me of "Carrie", who I also really like.

Oh! One other thing... some of the rounds felt like they had a little too much in the way of intros and outros. I liked the fade-in of the 30 second breaks, but coupling that with a 30 second cumshot outro to the previous scene and a 30 second intro before the music starts was a bit too much to stay completely interested. I'd say rounds 4 and 5 come to mind on this one. As much as I liked the breaks and their fade-in, you probably don't need them much if you want to keep the "non action" outside the music and beats.
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prawndiddy wrote:Very nicely done! Especially as an improvement over the last one. You really polished up the mechanics and kept your own style. I especially like the song choices, the interesting beats, and the themes for each round. I think the more diverse music lends itself to more interesting beats, so those two go together I guess. I'm really glad you added a beat meter, as I think it's what sets the genre apart from a simple compilation or music video rework.
Thank you very much! Glad to see people are enjoying this iteration more, it definitely felt like a step up from my priors. I've been anxious to see how people like the different music, as I'm not so much a fan of pop/dubstep/the majority of CH music. I'm quite the metal-head actually, but I don't think the brutes lend well to the ultimate goal of a CH style video.
prawndiddy wrote:I think one or two more beat types per round would've been good. Many rounds, and maybe round 6 in particular, was very repetitive even though I really liked it. The nice thing about "real" music that isn't electronic/club/techno/whatever is that you can usually find a few different rhythms overlayed to choose from, and one thing you did pick up on well was that they have a better sense of pacing to them in terms of intense parts and mellow parts.
I think this is where my experience as a drummer will hinder me. I have such a hard time NOT sticking to the inherent beat of a song, if I do, it sounds so wrong to me and will succeed in driving me insane, or at least push me closer. Call it an OCD affliction if you must! I do try to pick songs that aren't so consistent, but it won't happen 100% of the time. Fish gotta swim...
prawndiddy wrote:Whenever there was a quick pair of beats (e.g. 12--1---), it felt off somehow. I don't think it was the wrong tempo, but if I understand how the beat tracks are made it may have been slightly offset or something. Oh, and another thing here... since your beatmeter was opaque (which I think is fine), you might want to just shift it down a bit more if you can, to not have the sliver of background video below it.
The whole beat matching fiasco for Round 2 was something that help up production. The BPM analysis said what it said, but I think it must be an average, because (again, drawing on my musical experience) the songs tempo is not constant. This is one of the great things about having real musicians instead of a drum machine and electronic music, we don't have programming to keep us perfectly in step. I noticed it significantly with Round 2, and it almost drove me to find a new song. I just liked the song too much and decided I got it "Close enough". Songs that are that inconsistent are pretty rare (unless played live) so I don't expect to run into this problem very often.

As for the beatmeter, I tried to use it to cover the watermarks on the video. Again, a bit of an OCD thing...
prawndiddy wrote:I did actually make it through the whole video without losing (including edging each reward round, all the way until the final one, which I kinda skipped through because the girl and the scene weren't doing it for me), which I wasn't expecting to do because when I skipped through it last night it seemed very up-tempo all the way through and figured I'd lose it early.
Heh, the farthest I've made it was Reward Round 3.
prawndiddy wrote:The fast triples in round 5 had me nervous but I found a steady state. I'd say I enjoyed round 3 and 6 the most, because I liked the scenes and the songs the best. The xart/passion/etc videos are probably my favorites as a whole, so I was planning on just finishing up there on the reward section, but I figured I'd see how far I could go. :) Like I said, I kinda skipped through the last reward, so I went back to reward 3 to finally finish.
I imagine Round 5 will get a lot of people, it was definitely my favorite. The song, the girls, the theme, the editing, the fast 3-stroke clusters, the perfect Katie St. Ives commentary, I'm very happy with how it turned out. Definitely a recipe for disaster!
prawndiddy wrote:Who's the girl in the school scene in round 6? She kinda reminds me of "Carrie", who I also really like.
The blond? Madison Scott! Expect to see more of her in my future incarnations. She's a favorite :-P
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prawndiddy wrote:Oh! One other thing... some of the rounds felt like they had a little too much in the way of intros and outros. I liked the fade-in of the 30 second breaks, but coupling that with a 30 second cumshot outro to the previous scene and a 30 second intro before the music starts was a bit too much to stay completely interested. I'd say rounds 4 and 5 come to mind on this one.
I included these as kind of a "You gave it your best", in the event that the content is just too much and the player loses to the inevitable climax on screen. I can't remember which forum it was here, but someone was requesting a bit longer of an on-screen display after a Reward countdown. I totally agreed, who wants to climax to great content, only to have the credits roll immediately after? So I included the cumshots where I could as kind of a tip-of-the-hat. I would have liked to have them coincide with the end of the song, such as in Round 7, but that would have meant cutting more content than I would have liked.

The one round, in hindsight, where I kind of dropped the ball is Round 6. I had originally planned to use the remaining content of those two videos for the Reward Round, but ultimately forgot by the time I got there. Whoops! :blush:

I hope this gives some insight to my decisions! Thanks for the critique, keep 'em coming!
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Love this. Really hard though. Anyone know the name of the girl in the red sweater around 0:30? Would be greatly appreciated.

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bmn111 wrote:Love this. Really hard though. Anyone know the name of the girl in the red sweater around 0:30? Would be greatly appreciated.

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Her name escapes me at the moment, but I have it in the file at home. I'll post back later if no one else has answered by then!
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Hi there!

I have a confession to make here. I really didn't like your Mission 1, probably because I'm too obsessed with HD videos, not sure. What I want to say is that this piece of your work was amazing, even though I just had a little peak before I play it tomorrow. I will go back to your previous video as well as soon as I have the time. So well, that's it. You've got a new fan, keep up the good work! :)
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ThumpeR11 wrote:Hi there!

I have a confession to make here. I really didn't like your Mission 1, probably because I'm too obsessed with HD videos, not sure. What I want to say is that this piece of your work was amazing, even though I just had a little peak before I play it tomorrow. I will go back to your previous video as well as soon as I have the time. So well, that's it. You've got a new fan, keep up the good work! :)
Thanks for the kind words! I learned a lot from the first video, and I hope it shows in this one. I have the community to thank for the improvements, so keep the criticisms coming!

I haven't really started on Mission:03 yet, other than putting together some theme ideas and potential video to cut from, so there's plenty of time for suggested improvements (or things to keep the same).

Good luck tomorrow! I myself haven't been able to last through to the final reward segment...
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bmn111 wrote:Anyone know the name of the girl in the red sweater around 0:30?
Kasey Chase!
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Jackal403 wrote:I have the community to thank for the improvements, so keep the criticisms coming!
You asked me quite a while ago to return and give feedback. Sorry it's taken so long. I really like your work. I thought the girls, the music, and the action was very hot throughout. I liked the countdown in the reward rounds, and the challenge given to edge in each round. It was challenging and fun!

If I'm not mistaken, all of the reward rounds featured freestyle stroking. Because you had so many reward rounds, that meant that about the whole second half was freestyle. This is not a criticism, because I think it's solely personal preference, but I would have preferred more directed stroking and less freestyle. I only mention it because you asked for feedback.

I look forward to many replays of missions 1 and 2, and hopefully a mission 3 some time in the future! :)
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