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THANK YOU!!!!

Not a bunch of conjecture, but actual, documented fact of law, researched and provided by the administration of the site. I say it again ...

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BTW, latest tease on the site by Eofan, mentioned the character by name - when googled, this is what comes up: http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showt ... p?id=19574

Suguha Kirigaya (桐ヶ谷 直葉)
Kazuto's sister in the real world. She is 15 years old and in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club. She's a diligent worker and has been practicing Kendo for 8 years.

I think this falls under the category of underage.

http://myanimelist.net/character/36831/Suguha_Kirigaya

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I hate to be the one that suggests this, but it seems like hentai images in general are going to be nearly impossible to properly moderate, so perhaps the site should change their policy to not allow any teases with hentai images. Proper models are pretty tightly restricted, and finding underage models in proper galleries presents its own problems. Might be a simple way of solving the problem.

Also, the tease by LittleElfBoy, called Black Rose Witch, the main character is Akiza Izinski from Yugi-oh. The wiki refers to her age at the beginning of the series as 16 - but it doesn't mention her current age. This might be a grey area, to be addressed?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Akiza_Izinski
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@breathplayslut:
the wiki wrote:18 (episode 152)
26 (finale timeskip)
Not at all grey zone if you ask me.
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breathplayslut wrote:BTW, latest tease on the site by Eofan, mentioned the character by name - when googled, this is what comes up: http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showt ... p?id=19574

Suguha Kirigaya (桐ヶ谷 直葉)
Kazuto's sister in the real world. She is 15 years old and in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club. She's a diligent worker and has been practicing Kendo for 8 years.

I think this falls under the category of underage.

http://myanimelist.net/character/36831/Suguha_Kirigaya

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@breathplayslut: The author has already been asked to take this down. If they don't phOx will. (I don't have the permissions to take down a tease, so I just tell phOx).
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breathplayslut wrote:
Also, the tease by LittleElfBoy, called Black Rose Witch, the main character is Akiza Izinski from Yugi-oh. The wiki refers to her age at the beginning of the series as 16 - but it doesn't mention her current age. This might be a grey area, to be addressed?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Akiza_Izinski
I had already checked this tease. The information I checked listed her age at the beginning of the series as 16 and at the end as 22. The images I checked came from the end of the series, so she would be 22.
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How are offline teases affected by this ruling?
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Breathplayslut, can I make a tease about Mitsuru Kirijo? In Persona 4 Arena she's twenty years old.

Here is a picture of her looking kind of chubby and mature.

I will be waiting for approval. ^^
Y-You as well.

Check my profile for my teases. I used to have a lot but then mods took them down for containing fictional cartoon characters.
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Wow, you guys are posting faster than I can respond :\'-(

@janmb: Hi, I will try to answer your questions.

Point 1. "For cartoons that are largely unknown..." Age will be based on the setting, appearance and context taking the tease as a whole. Yes it will be a judgement call, just like it would be if we ever had to go to court.

Point 2. "Mature women posing as minors..." As I read the law it only effects persons under the age of 18. If you are talking about characters in cartoons the age will be judged the same as above.

Example: In your example if the model is 18 or over it is legal. I guess if she is 19 and still in junior high school she must have flunked a lot of classes :lol: .

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LittleElfBoy wrote:How are offline teases affected by this ruling?
I don't know no, but I will refer the question to phOx.

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youaswell wrote:Breathplayslut, can I make a tease about Mitsuru Kirijo? In Persona 4 Arena she's twenty years old.

Here is a picture of her looking kind of chubby and mature.

I will be waiting for approval. ^^
I assume this was written tongue in cheek but I will answer for breathplayslut anyway. I too checked the wiki and she is in fact 20 in the 4th series. So as long as the pictures come from that series it should be fine.
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Wyatt wrote:
*picture of Mitsuru*
That's actually her from Persona 3, here is her from Persona 4 Arena
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youaswell wrote:

That's actually her from Persona 3, here is her from Persona 4 Arena
OK, that one is even better :yes: .

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Liking fictional tease characters is basically the whole premise in every tease on the site. The fact that the character images in this case are known to be underage in an original published work elsewhere should make them unusable for us. Even if it wasn’t a legal issue I’m hopeful that all Milovanians would choose not to perpetuate the moral problem of kids being exploited in our world which is the reason it is not legal to use underage images. We will make a few small adjustments and this issue will be solved for the fans of cartoons.

Some of you seem concerned that “big brother“ (admin) is cracking down on our rights to be freaky or is trying to adjust our preferences for us. Some of you seem worried that this might lead to more censorship. I recently learned that there have only been a couple teases removed by administrative action so don’t worry about this leading to more and more censorship. If you’re going to spoof known works of this sort you need to use different characters/models/setting so it can’t be misconstrued.

No reason to sugar coat this or be politically correct.

The talk about mental disorders doesn't really need to be part of this discussion. Everyone knows that rapists, child molesters, murderers, arsonists and psychos of all kinds are mentally @34&* and there isn’t any correlation between those menaces to society and any of our sexual preferences.
janmb wrote: It's important that people come to terms with the fact that pedophilia as a sexual alignment is nothing that can or should be fixed or scoffed at. We did that with gays as well until fairly recently, and these days fortunately most people agree that it is not something that is voluntary, wrong, can or should be fixed at all. The very same goes for pedophiles. There is nothing inherently wrong with someone getting sexually aroused by watching kids.
Jan, come on man. You can’t possibly think that an adult who desires children in a sexual way is comparable to the bigotry experienced by gays.

Ask yourself this question: Would I trust a so called “Pedophile” with the children in my life? Answer=“Hell No!” Children must be protected. Pedophilia isn't a benign sexual alignment, it is a fancy way some politically correct, professional idiot, or group of professional idiots decided to describe, and thus partially excuse, the sexual desire (and actual behavior in many, many cases) some whacked out adults have for children.

The “condition” progresses and some of these “poor” diagnosed “patients” become child predators. So If any of you “like” kids in a sexual way please get help immediately. Let us be cautious and sensitive to the real issue at hand and make sure we all do what we can to protect kids and our site.

It is wrong and very voluntary to mess with little kids man. There is no way you should even have gay and pedophile in the same paragraph. Gay people don't molest or desire to molest children unless they are a whacked out gay pedohile.

Nothing wrong with watching kids be exploited sexually. Holy shit man! You are over the top this time. Nothing wrong with child porn. Where are you hiding man? Under a rock! Don't you know what happens to all them poor children that get abused by and for these dirty sons of bitches?

How can a nice decent, involuntary pedophile get his fix without some innocent child being exploited and abused? The kiddie pics don't just appear out of a vacuum. THINK MAN! I've come to appreciate you on here and don't percieve you as a moron. Sometimes the liberal ideals get a little far off track. I think you just got caught up in this without thinking it thru. Come back to the real world with us! Some things shouldn't be tolerated or excused. If some pedophile messes with any children in my life... Let's just say his diagnoses is going to change really fast and with extreme prejudice. I'm sure you actually feel the same way.

I understand that only a true monster would actually mess with a kid in reality and they should be taken out of society by any means necessary in my opinion. Freaks who watch it aren't far behind.

I understand the thought process about the "fantasy" element but it is freakishly sick beyond anything acceptable to justify the using of children inside the adult sexual world which must take place in order to fulfill the pedophiles so called disease or disorder. I’m sure most of you would agree and could care less what label some professional decided to associate with their behavior either.

I’m all for adults like us having our fun. I have a condition called Eclectic Fantasy Syndrome. I like looking at chicks in bondage, pretending they are helpless. I like being under the all powerful control of a Mistress and being forced to do things and have all sorts of crazy fantasies but I, like most, draw THE LINE when it comes to the kids.
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>moralfag
>subjective morals

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