Edging question - warmup time & other q's?

[supermokkori]

For reference:
An Edging video experiment: The Incredible Titties Test
The 2nd new Edging video tease experiment - Stroker "Edge"

As I stated in the feedback thread of Stroker Ace 2, going to be taking a break from making the lengthy "Stroker Ace" series. Instead, going to be doing slightly shorter video teases focused main on Edging - "Stroker Edge" if you will.

I anticipate I might get my first one done in late January and each will have a different theme - blondes, redheads, big butts, big boobs (naturally endowed, of course), legs and so on and so forth. I'm going to design them to follow a format similar to the first Edging Experiment, but had a couple of questions I wanted to open up to the group here at Milovana.

#1 - the poll question - how much of a "warm-up" do you feel you need before you can get to the Edge properly? Of course this is also dependent on content you're looking at, of course... but asking in general.

#2 - Do you prefer to know how long an "Edge n' Ride" duration will be? Also, when there are Breaks, do you want to know how long Breaks are?

#3 - A follow-up to question #2, would you want a counter to show how much time is left in an "Edge N' Ride" duration or Break or would that be too distracting?

Right now, the basic format is going to go something like this:

- Warm-up: warm-up video to get viewer hard and aroused before Edging portion. This will be somewhere between 5-8 minutes (also dependent on the poll results) and will follow classic CH-style video teases with music and Stroke Beat.
- Main video: a series of mostly hardcore scenes about 1 minute each long. Will have several "Edge N' Ride" sections and Breaks to recovery. Will go on anywhere from 20-30 minutes long.
- Reward video: I have a NEW concept for a reward video... will keep that a secret for now.

So help me out and reply with any helpful info you can... at the very least, vote in the poll! Thanks a bunch!

[Nezhul]

Hate when the edge comes too soon in teases. But stroking for long times may sometimes be boring. So I say 1-5 minutes it my variant.

[LordAdam]

As you say the time to edge does depend on content, general mood and the individual concerned ... so its going to be difficult to get it exactly right for all comers (was that pun intended? (now there's an interesting question)).

But it should be possible to get into the right ball park ... (they get worse don't they).

The idea of the edge-time-counter is an interesting one ... without the counter can be tricky and cause folk to 'hold-back' ... with the counter can give folk a known exit point and allow them to gauge what's happening to a finer degree.

How about a mixture? Some with and some without the counter ... kind of a Russian roulette with the one-shot pop gun?

You could modify the instructions to make it even more interesting ... an instruction that when the countdown was present the aim was to bring yourself to the 'very-brink' at the zero would make things very 'interesting' to say the least.

Anyway, whichever and whatever you do, there'll be an appreciative audience for your efforts!

[beargand]

I have to agree with L.Adam, mix it up! counters. no counters. Long "rides" short rides, and in the middle are all welcome. Remember what they say is the spice of life.

[DannyP]

A lot of this is personal preference.

For the initial buildup its not all about the time it takes but the "journey" to that point. If the 1st page says "Get to the edge right now slave" I'll like just close the tease so I strongly urge authors against doing that. If you want the reader to get to the edge relatively early then I'd suggest short timers slowly increasing the speed on each. A couple of minutes of that should work fine.

I don't like a ? timer on a edge longer than 30 seconds (I can deal with 1 maybe) for shorter edges I don't think its a big deal. Since I often have a drink during breaks I'd prefer to know how long they are but a timer is only truly necessary IMO for a break of a minute or more.

[aldorax]

It also depends on where in the tease you are when asked to edge and also your general state of edginess / horniness otherwise.

IE, you can be denied for a week and then hit the edge in under a minute when asked to 'gingerly touch yourself' .... while someone else who just released this morning might need to do some fast-and-furious stroking to get there again.

[Jackal403]

It also depends on where in the tease you are when asked to edge and also your general state of edginess / horniness otherwise.

I would add to this, the content at the time of the edge. Basically, if I don't find the content at the time of the required edge to my liking, it's very hard to edge.

Two sequences really come to mind in this one.

I could not for the life of me edge to her, she just doesn't do it for me.

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But then her, I very nearly lost once I saw the "Edge in 10 seconds" warning.

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I'm sure we all have triggers, some worse than others. Big natural tits on a curvy redhead with a sweet stunning face will almost always put me in the red zone.

Like her...

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[lestrian]

Your first edging experiment had the perfect time intervals. I didn't get to the edge each time, but the "time to fap" intervals were sufficiently short that I didn't feel like I needed to hold back, and the "must... not... fap" intervals were so frustrating that it became easier and easier to get to the edge following just a simple 1-1 beat. Your second edging experiment and Stroker Ace 2 were not as effective, since I was holding back most of the time, and then suddenly was told to get to the edge without having had the time to build up to it.

To answer your questions:

#1: If you want me to get to the edge, tell me about a minute beforehand, as in the second round of The Flux Dance Project. Alternatively just expect me to always be there, but make the stroking intervals short, as in your 1st edging experiment.

#2: I'd prefer not to be told how long an "Edge n Ride" duration is, unless it's long (>45 seconds). Don't tell me how long a break is.

#3: I'd prefer not, but I don't feel strongly about it.

Your new format sounds perfect, really looking forward to it! Your videos have been some of my absolute favorites!

[drdd2000]

I agree with Jackal, including the sample women he showed, more or less. If I don't really care for what's on the screen, then the edging sequence won't be tough. Others? Yeow. The Titties Experiment, to use one of Mokkori's examples, could be extremely tough at times. At others I thought it could have been tougher, meaning the edging sequence could have been longer or lasted into the tougher moments.

[fvoyeur]

Hi!

1. I don't really know how fast I can go from soft to edge because I don't really like going there fast. I feel that going to an edge in less than 10 minutes is a bit like training to become a premature ejaculator. Then again, if I know how much warm-up there is before the first edge, I can watch another video before starting yours if I find it is too fast.

2 & 3. I like the idea of having a countdown so I can try to be within a few strokes of cumming when it gets to 0. Still, I like holding edges in any way so do whatever you feel is best.

Thanks for doing this by the way. My private part appreciates it a lot! lol!

[flavourfish]

It also depends on where in the tease you are when asked to edge and also your general state of edginess / horniness otherwise.

I would add to this, the content at the time of the edge. Basically, if I don't find the content at the time of the required edge to my liking, it's very hard to edge.

Two sequences really come to mind in this one.

I could not for the life of me edge to her, she just doesn't do it for me.

Spoiler: show

couldn't do it.jpg

I love this girl... Great for me...

But then her, I very nearly lost once I saw the "Edge in 10 seconds" warning.

Spoiler: show

almost lost.jpg

Lost here too..

I'm sure we all have triggers, some worse than others. Big natural tits on a curvy redhead with a sweet stunning face will almost always put me in the red zone.

Like her...

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that's the one.jpg

Good, but not that good for me..

so point is, different for everyone. But I think timing in to the first edge must be good.

[janmb]

1: I can edge fairly quick if required to, but generally a minute or two warmup makes sense. Over five minutes tend to get boring to me.

2: No and no. Not knowing is always better

[edgeallday]

I'd say it takes well under 5mins if I just stroked really fast nonstop. It really depends on a lot of factors though as you said. A moderate few minute warmup would be good IMO. It's just to get you started after all, and if it gets too long it doesn't really feel like a "warmup" anymore.

As for the break/edge timers, I like both ways of doing it and they are both a mindfuck. When you can see the timer it's achingly slow waiting for it to count down, and when you can't see the timer you ask yourself whether there are 2 seconds left or 2 minutes.

[janmb]

The best solution, to allow for the variety of users, their needs and preferences, is to have a relatively short warm-up, but allow a large flexibility the first time an edge is ordered.... That way the trigger-happy guys can edge more or less as soon as instructed, while the slower guys can continue warming up and take the time they need to hit the first edge.

In fact, it is harder to accommodate such differences when commanding a series of edges, where breaks and edge timers are deliberately meant to be tight.

[prawndiddy]

I'd say I can edge pretty quickly if it's really required, but I don't enjoy it. I can actually feel myself getting to the edge before I'm even hard if there's an abrupt transition between a break (or just something low-key or uninteresting) and an all-out edge. Being in the middle of a good, arousing section and then tweaking it up to an edge is a lot more enjoyable for me. I'd like to be at an 8 before going to 11, not at a 3.

I love the sound of the basic premise... short clips of hardcore action strung together with edges sprinkled in sounds awesome compared to where your (and vindi's) edges have been located scene-wise. It's hard for me to edge ever if I'm watching a clothed girl dance... it's a lot faster and sometimes hard to hold the edge without going over if it's hard action with a moaner or a screamer.

I'd actually prefer to know how long the edge 'n rides are, because they let me push that little bit more and I can plan to stay closer to the edge if I know it's under 15 seconds left or whatever. Technically I kind of like knowing how long the breaks are, but that's because it lets me skip past them after the first few viewings. :)