FB: The Stroker Ace 2 Challenge (HD & SD versions Released!)

[chfluxfan]

Can someone explain the Edge n Ride thing in more detail? Is it cheating if you go hands-free for a while?

[supermokkori]

Can someone explain the Edge n Ride thing in more detail? Is it cheating if you go hands-free for a while?

"Edge N' Ride" is sorta of the "next step" in edging. Edging itself is pretty straight-forward - you basically stroke the most efficient way to get as close to the point of no return (i.e. "The Edge") and once you get there, you stop stroking. "Edge N' Ride" is a bit more daring - again, get to "The Edge" but once you get to the Edge, you try to stay as CLOSE to that Edge for the rest of the duration.

While it's not necessarily cheating to go "hands-free for a while", the point is to continue to stroke yourself enough to stay close/on the Edge. So if "for a while" is like 3 or 4 seconds, that seems ok; but if "for a while" is like 10 seconds or more then... yeah, that's cheating.

But keep in mind, everyone will have a different level of "mastery" when it comes to Edging - some can stay on the Edge and stroke every other second to "Ride The Edge". Some can only Ride the Edge by taking a quick 3-4 second break and then quickly stroke to "Ride The Edge". So, everyone will have a slightly different way of "Riding The Edge". The main object of "Edge N' Ride" is trying to staying on the feeling of "The Edge" during the duration.

Hope that helps.

[realnot]

Haven't watched this one yet but I did take a peek at the beginning. Did you start with the same clip used to start the "edge n ride" experimental video?

[supermokkori]

Haven't watched this one yet but I did take a peek at the beginning. Did you start with the same clip used to start the "edge n ride" experimental video?

I did, but edited a bit to include another scene and some new stroke beat rhythms.

[ark235]

Wow, this is really really really really good.

Scenes are awesome, as is the progression, the beats, the edging. Really like the whole thing with the host as well. The last round worked for me too, sometimes the 'reward' round seems at odds with the content but not so here.

Gonna sound really greedy now as you've literally only just released this one, but I hope you continue to make more in the future!

Cheers man :)

[M4tsu0]

always love your work way before u come to milovana, supermokkori
this is no exception

Spoiler: show

Stage 1
Round 1 (warmup): The best round IMO, if i'm gonna revisit one scene, this is definitely the one i'm going. Excellent chioce of girls. (need the 2nd girl's name, her body is perfect! the sun shines on her body is just beautiful to watch)
Round 2: another fav. round with very decent moody song, love the slow pace but actually can turn u on quite a bit
Round 3: good to end stage 1 in this intense level

Stage 2
Round 1: very fun, good choice of toys scene, great match with new Edge N' Ride concept
Round 2: Riley's interuption really caught me, really thought the file was corrupted at one point good transition with real time stroke
Round 3: 3rd fav. round, good sum up for foreplay stage

Stage 3
Round 1: right on its level
Round 2: i'm not kink guy, totally immune to it
Round 3: little bit disappointed, the difficulty is right but it is quite predictable in terms of scene patterns)

so my overall impression on this is very good, i dont really know it's an hour long video at all actually
Actually I like more hardcore stuff than teasing (eg. prefer CH Hardcore scenes more than teasing round of andy's series and flux etc), but your stage 1 is just too good to watch, instant favourite!




P.S. I like Karlie too, but not in brazzers scenes. Love her teasing/softcore scenes much more. She ain't belongs to hardcore category with faked screaming

keep it up!

[servufon]

Wow, this really looks great! Just wanted to let you know, I don't know when I might get through it all, anyway some super hot scenes, esp those last half. Thanks for such rewarding for us hard work for you, it really is appreciated, do know!!!!

[cockherolover]

Streaming link: Stroker Ace 2 Challenge

[tjacobs222]

Thanks SuperMokkori for your latest effort. A couple of thoughts on Ace 2. I'll separate my comments into Technical and Artistic. Some things worked for me and some did not. BTW, I'm a big fan of your first two works, Ace 1 and Remix. I enjoyed both immensely. It seems you changed course a bit with Ace 2.

Technical. I had problems seeing most of the instructions and intermission scenes, as they were very overexposed and the verbage could not be read. This is not a big problem as I know the "rules" of the game and after all, like most others I think, I dowloaded the torrent for the music and hot models. :)

Also, some of the music was out of sync with the beat overlays. I am finding that after I've seen a number of these wonderful CH vids, I rely less and less on the dubbed beats. So the fact the dubbed beats were out of sync was a distraction and took away from the "fun". I would have rather had no dubbed beats rather than out of sync beats.

Both of the above "fixes" could probably be solved fairly easily with version 2.1 on your video. I am also open to the possibility the technical problem was on my end. Maybe no one else encountered the overexposure problem on intermission or instruction screens.

While were on the subject of dubbed beats, I am hoping all CH creators will do away with two annoying dubs. One, the chock block that was used in your vid was like nails on a chalkboard for me. Rather than a drum beat of some kind, the chock block is very tinny sounding and frankly, just hurt my ears early into the video and throughout. In fact, I think the overlay of a beat is probably not necessary anymore for these vids. After awhile, the viewer just kinda "gets it" with what's supposed to happen. A "1-1" or "double time" instruction is pretty self explanatory. Newer CH aficionados might need them, but at this point, I kinda doubt it.

The other area I will mention that didn't work for me was the bondage and pain segment. I know some folks will really enjoy that (I don't mean to judge here), but for me, I really go out of my way to avoid any porn of any kind where women are subjected to severe degrading behavior or pain. I may be the only one who feels this way, but I doubt it. Food for your thought....

I really enjoyed some of the video choices you put into Ace . Most of them were refreshingly new and great to see. Some of them less so. The music choices seemed sporadic to me, very different from one another. the volume on some of the music was really low, perhaps so that the model's voices could be heard. I imagine that's a fairly tough balance to find. Lastly, I found myself wondering if there could be fewer instruction screens at the beginning and at intermissions. After the first two or three videos someone does with CH, we kinda "get it".

I did like the interplay with the two hosts, Karlie and Riley. In fact, I thought you could have used the intermissions with more Riley Ried in order to paint this little mini story of her as the troublemaker, who keeps showing up to try and steal Karlie's affections with the viewer.

thanks again for your hard work, as well as the hard work on all the developers of CH vids. This new artform has revolutionized my appreciation for beautiful women and how I enjoy them. :)

[supermokkori]

First off, thanks so far for the great feedback... waiting to hear even more before I begin my next video project. (tho admittedly, prolly won't be till next year).

Anyway, just replying to the feedback thus far:

Wow, this is really really really really good.

Scenes are awesome, as is the progression, the beats, the edging. Really like the whole thing with the host as well. The last round worked for me too, sometimes the 'reward' round seems at odds with the content but not so here.

Gonna sound really greedy now as you've literally only just released this one, but I hope you continue to make more in the future!

Thanks ark235 for the kind comments and good to hear the "final round reward" worked out right for you.

I won't be making a lengthy video tease like "Stroker Ace" for awhile - I'm going to be concentrating on somewhat shorter video teases primarily focused on the "Edge N' Ride" concept.

always love your work way before u come to milovana, supermokkori....

Thanks M4tsu0... tho not sure what you mean by "work way before Milovana".

Round 1 (warmup): The best round IMO, if i'm gonna revisit one scene, this is definitely the one i'm going.

I have to say, out of all the Rounds for Stroker Ace 2, Round 1 came out just about as perfectly as I thought it could. It's a combination of the really hot strip dancing action by VERY HOT attractive girls and the the MJ Cole remix version of "Fuck Me Pumps" worked really really really well. It's probably my favorite round as well.

Oh and the girl you're asking about is Kiera Winters. She is just as good as good gets.

Round 3: little bit disappointed, the difficulty is right but it is quite predictable in terms of scene patterns

Hmm... could you be a little more specific, M4tsu0? Was it predictable because the music gave you an indicator when the action would start to get more intense?

Thanks SuperMokkori for your latest effort...

Technical. I had problems seeing most of the instructions and intermission scenes, as they were very overexposed and the verbage could not be read...

Also, some of the music was out of sync with the beat overlays. I am finding that after I've seen a number of these wonderful CH vids, I rely less and less on the dubbed beats. So the fact the dubbed beats were out of sync was a distraction and took away from the "fun". I would have rather had no dubbed beats rather than out of sync beats.

Both of the above "fixes" could probably be solved fairly easily with version 2.1 on your video. I am also open to the possibility the technical problem was on my end. Maybe no one else encountered the overexposure problem on intermission or instruction screens.

Hey tjacobs222, thanks so much for taking the time to type up such in-depth feedback.

It's weird - on any other video player I tried (Media Player Classic, WMPlayer, etc.,) I didn't see any bugs... BUT, when I tried it with VLCPlayer, text in the intermissions didn't show up on cue and then would only appear for a second and there were some Stroke Beats that were offbeat. I'll investigate to see what the problem could be. If anyone else has this problem, please reply.

While were on the subject of dubbed beats, I am hoping all CH creators will do away with two annoying dubs. One, the chock block that was used in your vid was like nails on a chalkboard for me. Rather than a drum beat of some kind, the chock block is very tinny sounding and frankly, just hurt my ears early into the video and throughout. In fact, I think the overlay of a beat is probably not necessary anymore for these vids. After awhile, the viewer just kinda "gets it" with what's supposed to happen. A "1-1" or "double time" instruction is pretty self explanatory. Newer CH aficionados might need them, but at this point, I kinda doubt it.

Hmm... well, as I don't have a Stroke Meter (and I don't plan to use one at all in the future), while some of the easier stroke beat rhythms (i.e. 1-1, 1 2 3 4, etc.,) would be pretty easy to figure out with the beat of the music, some of the more advanced RED ones I use would be a bit confusing. Furthermore, there are a few CH-style videos that don't have a Stroke Beat that I've played and for me, the stroke instructions in those videos can be somewhat arbitrary and not clear for the player. So I think having a Stroke Beat is quite important - I'll look into using another sound effect for the Stroke Beat, but chances are I'll keep using the "wood block" effect I've been using, as it's high-pitched enough that it can be heard over most heavy bass beats but I don't think it's so high-pitched where it's ear-bleeding (tho I know some users who can't stand it at all).

The other area I will mention that didn't work for me was the bondage and pain segment. I know some folks will really enjoy that (I don't mean to judge here), but for me, I really go out of my way to avoid any porn of any kind where women are subjected to severe degrading behavior or pain. I may be the only one who feels this way, but I doubt it. Food for your thought....

I was REALLY debating whether to go this direction or use a slow-paced "frustration round of cinematic sex" in Round 8. I chose to go the kink route just to try something a little different... that and I was pretty much SHOCKED that no video tease creator had tried to use Nine Inch Nails in a video tease!

...The music choices seemed sporadic to me, very different from one another. the volume on some of the music was really low, perhaps so that the model's voices could be heard. I imagine that's a fairly tough balance to find. Lastly, I found myself wondering if there could be fewer instruction screens at the beginning and at intermissions. After the first two or three videos someone does with CH, we kinda "get it".

Yeah, sound balance is always going to be a challenge... tho admittedly, there was a large 2-3 month break where I didn't work on Stroker Ace 2 at all, which in turn, made me forget the balance numbers for sound. I actually tried to reduce the instructions intermissions so that they're much shorter, tho I figure most CH-style veterans might get annoyed by that by now.

As for sporadic music, not sure if you meant that as a good or bad thing... but outside of two Rounds, most of the music I use are DJ mixed tracks, mostly fast house-style tracks.

I did like the interplay with the two hosts, Karlie and Riley. In fact, I thought you could have used the intermissions with more Riley Ried in order to paint this little mini story of her as the troublemaker, who keeps showing up to try and steal Karlie's affections with the viewer.

I actually thought about it but that probably would've made the intermissions longer and I wanted to avoid that a lot. But figured, if you played the original Stroker Ace and the Remix, you would likely remember Riley and what to expect.

Again, thanks a bunch for all the feedback - my only concern when I released Stroker Ace 2 was whether people would have trouble with the "Edge N' Ride" feature (either keeping an Edge or even getting to the Edge). So would like to read more feedback on the "Edge N' Ride" feature... especially since I plan to do future "short videos" using the "Edge n' Ride" mechanic... like a lot.

Thanks again!!

[Pontos]

It's weird - on any other video player I tried (Media Player Classic, WMPlayer, etc.,) I didn't see any bugs... BUT, when I tried it with VLCPlayer, text in the intermissions didn't show up on cue and then would only appear for a second and there were some Stroke Beats that were offbeat. I'll investigate to see what the problem could be. If anyone else has this problem, please reply.

I'm using the VLC-Player and had this problem. But it was not a big deal, anyhow. Thanks for this vid! Although the edge'n'ride is great, it went a bit too far in my opinion. I really loved the Riley-Intermission! Great surprise. Thanks again.

[Kurdt57]

My opinion is that the Edge N Ride concept is really great and I think that you have even maneged it to work quite well with the rest of the video. So for me, I am looking forward to more Edge N Ride stuff!

[tjacobs222]

Supermok

On the technical issues of white-out screens, just wanted to let you know I used a Mac with Quicktime player, all up to date on releases. I haven't encountered any problems with video playback on any of the other CH vids, including your first two, Ace One and Remix.

[MrDigital]

The Edging is the best in all CH-Vids!!

[supermokkori]

Supermok

On the technical issues of white-out screens, just wanted to let you know I used a Mac with Quicktime player, all up to date on releases. I haven't encountered any problems with video playback on any of the other CH vids, including your first two, Ace One and Remix.

Ahhhh.. .that could be it. I'll look into it more after Xmas.

The Edging is the best in all CH-Vids!!

well, to be fair, the feature of edging hasn't been introduced in a lot of CH-style video teases. That said tho, I appreciate the kind comments MrDigital.