Status of Chat

[les]

@DoxysTurtle

The core is working the twiddly bits can wait.
It's the members that make chat not lipstick and mascara.

Do things as and when you have the time.
I am a great believer in once slowly
Rather than three time wrong.

[Oda]

@DoxysTurtle

The core is working the twiddly bits can wait.
It's the members that make chat not lipstick and mascara.

Do things as and when you have the time.
I am a great believer in once slowly
Rather than three time wrong.

As if you would show much up in the chat anyway.

[les]

My pet peeve is being dictated to when doing a favour.
I hate seeing it happen to others as well.

[Oda]

I didn´t dictate anyone. hell... i didn´t even say a name! But the fact is, that was an agreement for some information updates once in awhile and i think it isn´t asked to much for that. If he hasn´t the time... fine! But it would be nice to know that, if nothing will happen soon in the chat!

Besides of that... if he has so less time... maybe he needs some help? Wouldn´t hurt...

I think it is kind of offensive, that i get criticized for just asking for information updates. i mean there was nothing in one month, so i can at least expect a bit of information.... but instead i can read a post from you.

[les]

Sighs I was answering turtles post.

[Oda]

2 Months since the last update... no progresse at all.. not one small new feature or something else... the only change that i see is, that the chat isn´t really stable anymore. It´s down more often now then before... so what shall i say? I am pretty dissapointed...

Yes, yes... it´s for free... i know, i know... and it takes some time to do some things, even if they are small... i know, i know...

But the fact is, that i don´t see nothing and that since at least 3 months. If you have really so less time, it would have been better to keep the old chat and not to create a completly new one.

[_bobby_]

Jeez, what ever happened to the laid back, chilled out, peace lovely Oda that I knew?

[Mistress Jenifer]

2 Months since the last update... no progresse at all.. not one small new feature or something else... the only change that i see is, that the chat isn´t really stable anymore. It´s down more often now then before... so what shall i say? I am pretty dissapointed...

Yes, yes... it´s for free... i know, i know... and it takes some time to do some things, even if they are small... i know, i know...

But the fact is, that i don´t see nothing and that since at least 3 months. If you have really so less time, it would have been better to keep the old chat and not to create a completly new one.

Actually from what I understand.
Turtle has a handful of features (one being a chat bot with a few varied commands for people to use) ready to go or nearly there. Its just he needs seraph to hook the features into the chat for live permanent use. Or something along those lines. Its like the authentication feature, he needed seraph to sure up his end of it on milo before he could active it on the chat.

[DoxysTurtle]

2 Months since the last update... no progresse at all.. not one small new feature or something else... the only change that i see is, that the chat isn´t really stable anymore. It´s down more often now then before... so what shall i say? I am pretty dissapointed...

Yes, yes... it´s for free... i know, i know... and it takes some time to do some things, even if they are small... i know, i know...

But the fact is, that i don´t see nothing and that since at least 3 months. If you have really so less time, it would have been better to keep the old chat and not to create a completly new one.

I just wanted to comment that I saw this... I want to collect my thoughts for a little bit before I answer/respond, it's not being ignored.... I'll make sure you get a response from me this weekend on this.

[Oda]

Jeez, what ever happened to the laid back, chilled out, peace lovely Oda that I knew?

O.o

Anything to contribute to this discussion or just talking meaningless stuff?

[DoxysTurtle]

I'm going to *OFFICIALLY* step down in terms of my being involved with chat in any capacity aside from being a user. I only ever initially agreed with Seraph0x to help get the new chat system up and running, and configured for user login. This has been done for a long time. There was never any formal talk about my doing anything else, I made the post about features that we could add, and I planned to code as I had time...

I do not have the time to get things done as quickly as some in the community deem appropriate, and rather than deal with any drama or fall out from that anymore, I'm simply going to remove myself the equation. I don't plan to disappear from the community, just remove my donating the little spare time I had to helping with it from a technological standpoint. In the next few days, I'll finish wrapping up any work or settings tweaks I need to get, I'm going to send forum PMs to Seraph0x and Mistress Jenifer, with any information that is appropriate and the coding work I had finished that hadn't gotten posted to the site (or almost finished for that matter). And then Seraph0x can remove my access from the server if he wants, so that I'll be nothing more than a simple user.

Thanks for everyone who's put up with me, and given encouragement towards having a working chat.

"A man is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits." - Richard Nixon
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Now I'd like to specifically address a few points from Oda's most recent post, so he has relevant answers to the questions he's asked...

2 Months since the last update... no progresse at all.. not one small new feature or something else...

In response to this, I've been working on coding a few things, but have had such limited time, you're right, there's not been a new feature for a while... Except that I fixed a couple thing

that the chat isn´t really stable anymore. It´s down more often now then before

The issues with chat stability boil down to chat having become more popular and the chat server living on a server with slightly less memory than we could use. We are in fact finishing setting up some automated stuff so if chat crashes, it will automatically reboot, fixing some of the issue.

it would have been better to keep the old chat and not to create a completely new one.

I was not involved in the decision for switching chat systems in any way shape or form in reality... I heard that Ph0x was looking for an alternate (or considering giving up on chat), and I threw in my 2 cents about an idea for one possible replacement. The issues with the new chat aren't something that is unresolvable, and many of the issues have gotten worked out over time. The issues with the old chat system were such that it was *MUCH* harder to get back up after a crash, and we didn't know what caused the crashes... Here we know chat sits on a server a little too small memory wise for it, and there's a small memory leak in the software, which is what leads to the crash.

Lastly, I will address, that there are more people visiting chat now, from more platforms than we ever saw in flashchat. In addition we see people hanging out more, many people have commented on how much they like the option of being able to login with an IM client vs only being able to ask it wish a platform that has flash (like iOS lacks). In addition some of the items that were on the list people have commented on and so needed to be changed... For example many females enjoyed the lack of gender icons (which meant less unwanted PMs for them)... And many are on from school/work so much they wanted a disable pictures feature if we added pictures, so they could still be in chat.

Hope that answers your questions Oda.

[_bobby_]

I'd just like to say thanks to Turtle for all the effort he's put into Chat. I haven't a clue what it involves, or even how to go about trying to set one up.
But i do know, I've had a lot of fun there and met some wonderful people too. So thanks to Turtle and all the other good folk who put their time and effort into making Milo what it is.... somewhere we can all come and hang out and enjoy.

Thanks Turtle, you're a Hero

[seraph0x]

Thanks so much Turtle for the help!

As for the features, that's really more my department and I'd love to say major fixes are just around the corner, but I'm currently in San Francisco on a client contract, so my free time is practically nil. Things should be looking better in 2013.

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[Snoopy76]

Somehow I feel saddened by this post.

Turtle as much as I dont used chat as much as I used to, I am very grateful for all the work that you put in when there are countless other things you could have done with that time. I know how busy you are generally and I feel that giving your free time up for a greater good is a marvellous sign of what a truely selfless person you are.

Thank you Turtle *Hugs Tightly*

Snoopy x