My Journey Into Deep Submission with Goddess Josephine

[sub_Peter]

Hello together,

I've been a lurker of Milovana for a long time, I was there at the beginning of time when od.coms webtease section closed and Milovana became a place of hope. And it didn't take long before milovana was a bookmark I almost clicked daily. Reading, watching, learning, so much content, so much creativity. There is no other place that inspired my fantasy the past years as much as milovana did. Thank you!

But why come out now, why go public? Well you have seen the picture, you have read the title. I want to share with you the journey I'm taking, the journey I always wanted to take, but never found the woman I trusted enough to do this. Until I met Goddess Josephine! And it was here on Milovana where I first read her name, saw her picture and heard her voice. It was here where it all started, thus I wanted to share my experiences here:


Like I said, I first saw her here over two months ago. I became intruiged, I wanted to know more and I began reading her blog. (You can find it here.) Oh my, it blew my mind, and well 'other things' exploded too. Yes she does provide a phone sex service, but when I read more and more of her articles it was clear, she was really into it on a personal level. There is a lot of content to read, and a lot of free audios too, check it out if you want to see for yourself. She even has another blog especially for her sissys, if you are into that.

Everybody is different, has different fantasies, kinks, likes, you know what I mean. And there was one Article on her blog, I kept reading it over and over. It's definitely not for everybody, but for me it felt like she was writing down MY fantasy. It was about ongoing total control. I dreamt about that, not just submitting on the phone or in a session, but to fully submit to one woman, becoming her pet. It requires a lot of trust, commitment and willpower.

So I contacted her via mail, and I was blown away on how fast and nice she answered. I wrote to her what I was interested in, and that I was ready to make the commitment and take the first step. But there are alot of boys who claim the same, so there was a little test to prove myself. I had to buy her 'A Week of Tease & Denial'-program and finish it. It includes a picture and an audio file for every day, and all you have to do is to listen and follow her instructions. No orgasm the whole week!

It was hard, I never felt so aroused. I was excited each day to listen to her voice, it was so beautiful. And whenever I wrote her an email, she was there to answer it. The extra time and effort she puts in is amazing, and she was sooo patient with me. That is when I began to fully trust her, when I saw how much personal time and effort she put in, feeling the passion she had. What an amazing Goddess!

And after those seven days we arranged a call. I was so nervous. We talked that day via mail about the next step, and if I was eligible for her ongoing total control over me. I didn't have much to offer, I don't have alot of money and my physical appearance is ... well I need to loose 100 pounds. On the inside I was very serious about this, I wanted this, I was ready to fully submit to her. In the end there was only hope left, hoping she would trust me, giving me a chance to prove myself.

An so we talked on the phone for the first time. I was so nervous I forgot half of the English language. But she gave me a chance, and I felt SOOO deeply grateful. Words are not enough to describe how amazing Goddess Josephine is, just be open and truthful with her, and she will find a way that works for both. And it was such a delight talking with her, going over the rules, slowly going deeper. And when she ordered me to stroke I was ....

... well I guess I'll tell you that part another time. It's getting to long. The idea is to write updates from time to time, to let you all know how I am doing, and point out some life changing moments. I'm also here for any questions you might have.

Best regards,
Peter

[Goddess Josephine]

wow thank you so much Peter.

[Clockwerker]

[Alliteration]

Yes she does provide a phone sex service, but when I read more and more of her articles it was clear, she was really into it on a personal level.

This reminds me of some dialogue from "Hamlet":

Is it not monstrous that this player here,
But in a fiction, in a dream of passion,
Could force his soul so to his own conceit
That from her working all his visage wanned,
Tears in his eyes, distraction in his aspect,
A broken voice, and his whole function suiting
With forms to his conceit? And all for nothing—
For Hecuba!
What’s Hecuba to him or he to Hecuba
That he should weep for her?

The point is, sometimes actors can be really, really convincing. Goddess Josephine is running a business, nothing more.

So I contacted her via mail, and I was blown away on how fast and nice she answered.

I'd answer fast and nicely too, if I was doing things that people were paying me for.

But there are alot of boys who claim the same, so there was a little test to prove myself. I had to buy her 'A Week of Tease & Denial'-program and finish it.

The "test" to separate you from everyone else is to buy something from her? Doesn't that strike you as a little odd? A real test, one that would actually prove you were serious, would be recording yourself actually doing things. Buying something as a test is just more evidence she only wants your money.

And whenever I wrote her an email, she was there to answer it. The extra time and effort she puts in is amazing, and she was sooo patient with me.

Again, because you're a client. It's her job to do so.

We talked that day via mail about the next step, and if I was eligible for her ongoing total control over me. I didn't have much to offer, I don't have alot of money

Stop paying her entirely and see what happens. I bet you she'll stop being patient and stop acting like she's into it. How do I know this? I looked up some of the requirements for the services she offers:

Chastity keyholding:
5) You must be able to call or text session at least two times per month for a total of 40 min.
6) You must purchase one tease audio per month. These are no more then 30 bucks.

Mistress Experience Ongoing:
2) You must be able to call at least 2 times a month. You are taught to budget and make a financial plan that gives you the ability to do this.
3) Gifts and tributes are expected.

Orgasm Control:
"If you have already purchased the audio collection you will purchase it again to begin the program and you will re-purchase if you fall off the program and wish to resume."

. I dreamt about that, not just submitting on the phone or in a session, but to fully submit to one woman, becoming her pet. It requires a lot of trust, commitment and willpower.

With the way you're doing it, all it really requires is money. Why not go meet an actual dominant woman instead of someone who will only talk to you as long as you're paying her?

[denton]

I understand your concerns, Alliteration and I share some of them, but for some, this may be an experience they want.

Josephine may be running a business, but that doesn't automatically mean that she does not care about her subs or that she is not genuinely into it.

With that being said, whenever deep, genuine emotion and/or money are involved, it's important to be careful and think about it clearly instead of being lost in fantasies. Peter may or may not have done it. It's perfectly possible that he's thought about it in that way and decided that the experience is worth his money.

Of course it's also possible that he is craving an experience more or less unconditionally and potentially makes bad decisions. Which would be a bad thing.

The thing is.. we don't know.

[les]

we have been there before with Josephine

Goddess Josephine

[sub_Peter]

Wow, hold your horses. Whats with all the negativity, I feel so postive and good in my life right now and wanted to share those feelings. Hopefully I can explain some concerns that you mentioned.

The point is, sometimes actors can be really, really convincing. Goddess Josephine is running a business, nothing more.

I've talked with her, I mailed with her a lot, and it is my strong personal believe that there is no way she is acting. And there is no way she would be in that 'buisness' for so long without enjoying it on a very personal level. Many people love their job, why should there be any difference.

So I contacted her via mail, and I was blown away on how fast and nice she answered.

I'd answer fast and nicely too, if I was doing things that people were paying me for.

I didn't pay a single dollar for any email, I'm sorry if that wasn't clear in my initial statement. I should have mentioned it, again I'm sorry. Hope that clears things up.

The "test" to separate you from everyone else is to buy something from her? Doesn't that strike you as a little odd? A real test, one that would actually prove you were serious, would be recording yourself actually doing things. Buying something as a test is just more evidence she only wants your money.

Have you ever paid for dinner on a first date? I do, well and sometimes there isn't going to be a second date. You invest in a woman you are interested in, pay for drinks, invite her to dinner. In an online relationship its different, so yeah I paid to show her I'm very interested, and the test was to actually follow the whole program, which wasn't easy.

And whenever I wrote her an email, she was there to answer it. The extra time and effort she puts in is amazing, and she was sooo patient with me.

Again, because you're a client. It's her job to do so.

I'm sorry again, same as above. No money exchanged hands for those mails. I should have really made that more clear *slaps own forhead*.

Stop paying her entirely and see what happens. I bet you she'll stop being patient and stop acting like she's into it. How do I know this? I looked up some of the requirements for the services she offers: [...]

I know that she does this for a living, and why shouldn't she if she enjoys it. For me it's a dream come true, finding a beautiful dominant woman that I feel comfortable with, I can trust, I can let myself fall. And she isn't asking for unreal amounts. I love that she is there giving me this opportunity. And I also mentioned that his might not be for everyone. So please accept that this is something for me and maybe a few others.

With the way you're doing it, all it really requires is money. Why not go meet an actual dominant woman instead of someone who will only talk to you as long as you're paying her?

I spend alot of money courting woman in real life, too much money. And no matter how much money you spent, if there is no connection between you two, it won't work out. Same applies here, if there is no dynamic between us I could pay her all the money in the world and she couldn't make my dream come true.

Thats how I see it.

Best regards,
Peter

[sub_Peter]

I understand your concerns, Alliteration and I share some of them, but for some, this may be an experience they want.

Yes it is what i want! Thank you for understanding

Josephine may be running a business, but that doesn't automatically mean that she does not care about her subs or that she is not genuinely into it.

!!! Thank you, this is so true. She is very deeply involved and cares alot. A lot! e.g. she has taken control over my diet and is helping me to eat healthy and loose those pounds. My life is activly improving because of her, because she cares.

With that being said, whenever deep, genuine emotion and/or money are involved, it's important to be careful and think about it clearly instead of being lost in fantasies. Peter may or may not have done it. It's perfectly possible that he's thought about it in that way and decided that the experience is worth his money.

I thought about this for two months, making sure it wasn't just a 'in the moment' decission. I even jacked off five times in a row, to make sure I thought with my brain. You all know how you sometimes want things because you're aroused, etc etc. So yeah I thought about it very carefully!

Best regards,
Peter

[sub_Peter]

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and @les:
I really don't want to beat a dead horse. Please? I wanted to share my journey, talk about it. Probably helping me as an outlet in difficult denial times, crying out in frustration, and tearing up in joy. Maybe inspire someone, who can't find a woman near him, that an online relationship can go very deep, very emotional. I'm sure you understand what i mean, thank you in advance.

Best regards,
Peter

[sub_Peter]

It's time for me to go to bed. I'll respond to everybody again tomorrow, and if I have time write down the second part of my journey. I wish you all a happy night, and lots of fun

Good night,
Peter

[Alliteration]

@sub_Peter:

Ok, you didn't pay for the emails. But you did pay for the introduction program. And you're going to keep paying for things in the future. And here's the kicker:

She will never, ever pay for anything for you.

She will never pay for a date, she will never buy you a gift, she will never spend a single penny on you. Doing so would cut into her profit. And like I said before, she will stop talking to you if you stop spending money on her.

If this is the type of relationship you want, that's fine. But don't delude yourself into thinking it's a romantic relationship, cause it's still all business - at least for her. The difference between this and taking a woman out to dinner is that for dinner, you're paying the restaurant for her; you're essentially buying her a gift. Here, you're paying her for services rendered. She's the restaurant/movie theater/coffee shop/bartender, not the date. If you don't believe me, ask her to give you free phone call privileges instead of the $2.50/min. that everyone else pays.

[les]

I posted the reference to stop the slanging match!!

[Alliteration]

Hey Peter, thanks for sharing.

I thought this was interesting to read, and I, for one, am glad to see you've found something you were looking for, and are having a good time with it, that's what it's all about anyway.


I guess this thread doesn't really need more hate, but I just need to say, anyone who goes around quoting hamlet to bring you down is a giant douche, so I hope you just ignore all that and post more sometime.

Enjoy yourself !
Thanks.

*points to my new sig*

[sub_Peter]

@Alliteration:
I never said I was looking for a romantic relationship, with marriage, kids and a life together. I wanted a way to live out my fantasy, and with her my dream became reality. And there are alot of other woman who offer 'online domination' and I either got scammed or they were just interested in squeezing out more money than i could afford. With Goddess Josephine it was different altogether, and I am VERY happy that I found her.

I get it that you don't like it, you are not into it, you would not do it, okay I can understand that, it is your thing. But why do you try to talk so negative and I feel like you are trying to convince me to feel negative too. It feels like you're that annoying guy at the door, trying to sell me his new religion by talking down my current one. I'm happy where I am, thank you very much

Hey Peter, thanks for sharing.

I thought this was interesting to read, and I, for one, am glad to see you've found something you were looking for, and are having a good time with it, that's what it's all about anyway.[...]

YES, thank you very much! And that hamlet douche thing made me laugh

@les
Thank you

Best regards,
Peter

[Goddess Josephine]

I will not go on and on about my intentions or defend myself when someone has clearly made up their mind. Yes, this is my business, I love it and I'm good at it. I offer a wonderful and sincere service for those interested in it. It does not mean I don't care or that its strictly about the money. I am a professional.

I get paid the same amount of money per minute regardless of what I do and don't do. I offer a little more then the typical phone sex calls because some people need more. It's really just that simple. Most of the men that use my service are not looking for a relationship with me but in an experience. I find the invest we both make fair.

Peter wanted to offer me support because he can't afford what most of my customers can. He wasn't turned down because he couldn't pay as much. At the same time I do have to make a living even if i enjoy my job. What possibly could be wrong with that? I agreed to help him not only with his fantasies but some personal issues. He was simply showing his appreciation and asked me ahead of time. When he asked me I knew exactly what would happen and I even knew who would be creating the drama. It is what it is. If you'd like to turn this into something it isn't, go right ahead. We will not take part in it and I refuse to allow him to get his feathers ruffled over it.

Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.