Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
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Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm: New sensor + photo
Greetings all,
I've made a new version of the sensor I used in my previous version of my automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm. This sensor is based on an anal plug, as was the previous one. However, this design is based on a commercial butt plug, and has the sensor protected by a waterproof coating. I suggest scrolling the image to the center, or slightly below, to see where the sensor element is.
The sensor element is wrapped around the narrow, "stem" area on the plug, so it measures pressure changes from the anal sphincter, rather than of the entire plug's contact area. I believe this makes for better sensitivity to the muscle activity that seems to correlate with "close to orgasm."
Getting the waterproof coating to bond nicely to the plug took a fair bit of experimentation, but now the sensor is much better protected, yet still shows good sensitivity to small pressure changes.
Although the sensor itself needs only two leads, I've opted to use an RJ45 jack as the electrical interface, since those are readily available, as are Ethernet patch cords. That leaves six more conductors available for adding a vibrator, an eStim electrode or other useful options.
Please let me know what you think.
I've made a new version of the sensor I used in my previous version of my automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm. This sensor is based on an anal plug, as was the previous one. However, this design is based on a commercial butt plug, and has the sensor protected by a waterproof coating. I suggest scrolling the image to the center, or slightly below, to see where the sensor element is.
The sensor element is wrapped around the narrow, "stem" area on the plug, so it measures pressure changes from the anal sphincter, rather than of the entire plug's contact area. I believe this makes for better sensitivity to the muscle activity that seems to correlate with "close to orgasm."
Getting the waterproof coating to bond nicely to the plug took a fair bit of experimentation, but now the sensor is much better protected, yet still shows good sensitivity to small pressure changes.
Although the sensor itself needs only two leads, I've opted to use an RJ45 jack as the electrical interface, since those are readily available, as are Ethernet patch cords. That leaves six more conductors available for adding a vibrator, an eStim electrode or other useful options.
Please let me know what you think.
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
hi pijoy
I am looking into using a fsr402 with an arduino. I have seen the article on ladyada site.
You mentioned about using a Linearizing Circuit => High-pass filter => Amplifier => Low-pass filter.
Do you have any circuit information / schematics?
I am going to do some raw tests using a 10k resistor and log the data and see what the results are.
I have ordered 3 fsr's. Was it difficult to attach the fsr to the plug and cover? I am considering using liquid latex to cover it.
Any advice very much appreciated.
Many thanks
freddy
I am looking into using a fsr402 with an arduino. I have seen the article on ladyada site.
You mentioned about using a Linearizing Circuit => High-pass filter => Amplifier => Low-pass filter.
Do you have any circuit information / schematics?
I am going to do some raw tests using a 10k resistor and log the data and see what the results are.
I have ordered 3 fsr's. Was it difficult to attach the fsr to the plug and cover? I am considering using liquid latex to cover it.
Any advice very much appreciated.
Many thanks
freddy
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
Freddy,freddylocks wrote:hi pijoy
I am looking into using a fsr402 with an arduino. I have seen the article on ladyada site.
You mentioned about using a Linearizing Circuit => High-pass filter => Amplifier => Low-pass filter.
Do you have any circuit information / schematics?
I am going to do some raw tests using a 10k resistor and log the data and see what the results are.
I have ordered 3 fsr's. Was it difficult to attach the fsr to the plug and cover? I am considering using liquid latex to cover it.
Any advice very much appreciated.
Many thanks
freddy
Right now, all I have are paper schematics (I lost the license key to my schematics application when I killed my laptop.) At least I have that much documentation. I'll give you the essentials, as best I can, in words.
The linearizing circuit I used is basically the one in figure 15 of Interlink's "FSR Integration Guide," which is on their website at
http://www.interlinkelec.com/sites/defa ... _Guide.pdf
They call this a current-to-voltage converter; however, the effect of this circuit gives an output voltage proportional to 1/R_fsr. So, this circuit does a reasonable job of turning the FSR's nonlinear behavior into a fairly linear response.
For choosing Vref, don't exceed Interlink's recommended current/area, 1 mA / cm^2. If memory serves, the area in their current-limit spec is the sensor area being compressed, not the entire area of the sensor. So, your current limit needs to reflect the geometry of your setup. When in doubt, use a lower Vref, to protect the FSR from damage, and increase the gain later in the circuit.
My filters were simple (textbook), first-order RC stages (one resistor and one capacitor), with a buffer stage after each. (An RC high pass has the capacitor first; low pass has the resistor first.)
I used double-sided tape to stick the FSR to my plug, per the Integration Guide. I used a (Pthalate free) PVC plug, with a couple coats of tool-dip (after thinning it out) to protect the sensor and leads. I haven't used any latex toys, so I don't know what would work best on those.
A *key* issue with using FSRs is to prevent folding or creasing the FSR's "tail," which contains the two contacts. I wish there were an easy, reliable way to shorten the tail, but I haven't found one. I made a hole through the base of the plug, and carefully threaded the tail through the hole. Then I coated both sensor and tail/leads as described above.
Hope this helps,
PiJoy
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
Hi Pijoy
Looking at the schematic for the "current-to-voltage" converter, it is perfect for the job.
The 402's arrived today. I have tested using the arduino, and I can see the key issue being the non-linear results. The circuit will resolve this nicely.
The intention is to use 5v, however I could use the 3.3v of the arduino instead. I will try both once I have created the current-to-voltage converter and see what the results are.
I am not sure how to create filters. However I will do a little research and see how to create them.
In the filters that you created, do you know what the values are that you used?
Many Thanks
Freddy
Looking at the schematic for the "current-to-voltage" converter, it is perfect for the job.
The 402's arrived today. I have tested using the arduino, and I can see the key issue being the non-linear results. The circuit will resolve this nicely.
The intention is to use 5v, however I could use the 3.3v of the arduino instead. I will try both once I have created the current-to-voltage converter and see what the results are.
I am not sure how to create filters. However I will do a little research and see how to create them.
In the filters that you created, do you know what the values are that you used?
Many Thanks
Freddy
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
Hi Pijoy
The following should be correct. Can you cast your eye over it and see what you think or any thoughts:
http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+5 ... istance%0A
I am hoping that the above should show you a circuit diagram that I drew up this evening.
I have not entered the correct figures for the Highpass, lowpass or amplifier parts of the circuit.
Any thoughts?
The following should be correct. Can you cast your eye over it and see what you think or any thoughts:
http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+5 ... istance%0A
I am hoping that the above should show you a circuit diagram that I drew up this evening.
I have not entered the correct figures for the Highpass, lowpass or amplifier parts of the circuit.
Any thoughts?
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
Freddylocks,freddylocks wrote:Hi Pijoy
The following should be correct. Can you cast your eye over it and see what you think or any thoughts:
http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+5 ... istance%0A
I am hoping that the above should show you a circuit diagram that I drew up this evening.
I have not entered the correct figures for the Highpass, lowpass or amplifier parts of the circuit.
Any thoughts?
I don't know that circuit simulator, and it's showing an error for me.
I hope you'll take my comments below in the spirit intended, namely to help you avoid pitfalls at the design stage, so you don't have to re-solder everything to remedy mistakes.
If the leftmost symbol is a battery (standing in for the excitation voltage), then you have the sensor linearizing stage correct. If it's a ground symbol (hard for me to tell, with the low-rez drawing), then the FSR will see ground on both ends, so it won't conduct any current, so constant output.
I'd put a buffer stage after your second filter section, and I suspect you'll need lots more gain.
Your R/C values for your filters should be re scaled for the OpAmps, and their knee frequencies need to be revised to get them anywhere close to what you want. For an R/C filter, the knee is at 1/(2 * pi *R * C) Hz. For your high-pass stage, your values give F = 1.57*10^4 Hz(?!?) -- way, way too high! Your low-pass is at 159 Hz. I'd put the low-pass below 60 Hz, and you need to have F_high_pass < F_low_pass in order to make a band-pass filter. As is, virtually nothing will come out of this circuit, because your high pass will only pass frequencies above 1.57*10^4 Hz, and your low pass will block everything it gets that's above 159 Hz, leaving nothing. You want the high-pass to block DC, but not much else, so bring that knee frequency way, way down.
To re-scale your R/C values, think about how much current an op-amp would have to source through those 100 ohm resistors if the OpAmp output were at either supply rail -- more than most OpAmps are happy with. I try to keep resistors loading OpAmp outputs (or the equivalent impedance of whatever network is loading the output) above 1K or (preferably) higher, so the OpAmps are sourcing or sinking only 12 mA max. and won't cook. This is slightly less critical if you're running the OpAmps from a lower voltage, like the Arduino's 5 volts. For a robust design, pay attention to both current limits for each amp as well as the worst-case power dissipation in each package -- including those 100 ohm resistors!
Finally, remember that textbook circuits designed for dual-supplies for the OpAmps need appropriate mods to work right from a single supply.
Please don't take my comments too hard. You're making progress.
Best regards,
PiJoy
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
Hi PiJoy.
Thanks for taking the time to reply and give the assistance I need.
I will work through the equations tonight to try and come up with some suitable cap and resistor values.
Cheers
Freddy
Thanks for taking the time to reply and give the assistance I need.
I will work through the equations tonight to try and come up with some suitable cap and resistor values.
Cheers
Freddy
Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
To be able to participate in this development, I would be willing to provide $$ past the parts and time with no expectation of ownership in any venture that comes out of it, and no expectation of receiving a finished quality product. Someone like Smallhorse or PiJoy that needs some extra $$ to buy parts to work on development should PM me. I just want to try out something at this prototype level.
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
Lemming wrote:
Greetings all,
I'm back after being occupied by the holidays. I've been re=designing both the hardware and my software, so have not been posting progress.
@Lemming,
Thank you for your kind offer. My greatest lack right now is time and access to certain specialized tools, although I could forsee the possibility that I might want to arrange for somebody else to help pay for some expensive sensor or device. Another thing would be some interested, somewhat tech savvy folks to discuss this idea (Vib to hold off orgasm), and related ideas. Hearing from interested people helps motivate me to express clearly what I'm trying to do; doing that helps me to understand the topic (and its implications.) Feel free to contact me here or via private message.
Best,
PiJoy
----lemming wrote:To be able to participate in this development, I would be willing to provide $$ past the parts and time with no expectation of ownership in any venture that comes out of it, and no expectation of receiving a finished quality product. Someone like Smallhorse or PiJoy that needs some extra $$ to buy parts to work on development should PM me. I just want to try out something at this prototype level.
Greetings all,
I'm back after being occupied by the holidays. I've been re=designing both the hardware and my software, so have not been posting progress.
@Lemming,
Thank you for your kind offer. My greatest lack right now is time and access to certain specialized tools, although I could forsee the possibility that I might want to arrange for somebody else to help pay for some expensive sensor or device. Another thing would be some interested, somewhat tech savvy folks to discuss this idea (Vib to hold off orgasm), and related ideas. Hearing from interested people helps motivate me to express clearly what I'm trying to do; doing that helps me to understand the topic (and its implications.) Feel free to contact me here or via private message.
Best,
PiJoy
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
Well,PiJoy wrote:
Greetings all,
I'm back after being occupied by the holidays. I've been re=designing both the hardware and my software, so have not been posting progress.
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PiJoy
Now I have some progress to report. I have a new 32bit microcontroller that collects sensor data, runs two channels of 3-volt vibrator, and logs key data to a file, so I can use the data to improve the teasing algorithms , which amost equates to, "How well can you estimate the subject's closeness to orgasm (CTO?)
Here is an overview photo of my new device.
The key parts of it are:
A 32-bit (ARM Cortex M-3) microcontroller (see http://leaflabs.com/devices/
.with better I/O, including better analog I/O) for reading sensors and also for controlling vibrators (or other fiendish actuators.) Right now, I have the controller programmed to run each vibrator channel randomized at 50% duty cycle, changing the vibes at approx 6 Hz.
The prototype penile plethysmograph, based on conductive rubber, interfaced to the analog I/O of the microcontroller.
A strip of stainless steel that holds two small (pager-motor-based) vibrators right near the most sensitive regions of my cock (bracketing the frenum.)
A simple hand controller, for now it controlls enable/disable the system, data logging and user-sel-assessment of closeness to orgasm CTO_self_estimage.
I'm finding this to be a rather fun toy, and I haven't even programmed in the (old version of) my sensor-to_CTO algorithm, yet. I'm still collecting data -- and enjoying doing so. Kinky research marches on!
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
More progress to report,
I've created a successful way for a logic signal (e.g. from an Arduino or similar), to control a Hitachi magic wand. It's a very safe design, using an optically isolated solid state relay; this gives it 4,000 volts isolation between the logic signal and the AC lines. Right now it's only full-on/full-off control. However, it can switch so fast that it ought to be modifiable to do AC phase control, to give full control of intermediate speeds between full off and full on. I can't wait 'til I get *that* working.
I've created a successful way for a logic signal (e.g. from an Arduino or similar), to control a Hitachi magic wand. It's a very safe design, using an optically isolated solid state relay; this gives it 4,000 volts isolation between the logic signal and the AC lines. Right now it's only full-on/full-off control. However, it can switch so fast that it ought to be modifiable to do AC phase control, to give full control of intermediate speeds between full off and full on. I can't wait 'til I get *that* working.
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
Apologies for not posting about progress sooner. I have two things on this subject that may be of interest to readers here.PiJoy wrote:More progress to report,
I've created a successful way for a logic signal (e.g. from an Arduino or similar), to control a Hitachi magic wand. It's a very safe design, using an optically isolated solid state relay; this gives it 4,000 volts isolation between the logic signal and the AC lines. Right now it's only full-on/full-off control. However, it can switch so fast that it ought to be modifiable to do AC phase control, to give full control of intermediate speeds between full off and full on. I can't wait 'til I get *that* working.
1. I've designed and built a controller for a Hitachi Magic wand. It does speed control via phase control of a triac, and that's not all the controller can do! In addition to "speed control mode," I've implemented a "ramp-up/ramp down" pattern and a randomized mode. Even in these modes, the speed-control dial serves to set a maximum power for the Hitachi. I demonstrated my Hitachi controller at the June meeting of teasecraft-boston, http://groups.google.com/group/teasecraft-boston With the hardware as is, I can add up to a total of 16 different modes or patterns. I've reserved one mode to accept a command signal from another device -- which brings me to progress on my automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm.
2. A fellow Milovanan contacted me, and he and his partner are interested in trying out unit number two of my teasing system. I'm working on building and packaging unit 2 for them to try. Unit 2 is itself going to be an upgrade from unit 1. They get to try this technology out now, instead of waiting. I get test data and their feedback to help me evolve/improve the teasing experience for both men and women. One way or another, it's bound to be an interesting learning experience for all involved. Stay tuned....
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
When will this be available?
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Re: Automatic vibrator to hold off orgasm
@scoobydome,scoobydome wrote:When will this be available?
It's going to be awhile until this is even ready for beta testing. I've just begun putting together a second unit, with some new capabilities for my alpha testers. I expect to go through several iterations of both the hardware and the software during alpha testing.
I have been looking into the issues between where I am and a possible commercial device, but that's a long, uphill climb. So all I can tell you is that I'm working toward possible commercialization, but I don't know if that will ever fly, in our regulation-happy, litigation-happy US culture. However, I'm doing what I can, because I really get off (figuratively and literally) from this sort of relentless teasing and edging!
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well you can always try and make it a limited pre-order thing too. Like you assemple a thing and send it by mail for a certain ammount of money.
My problem with this things, however, is that I found vibration doesn't take me nowhere near orgasm, rather it makes my cock numb and almost insensitive. Discovering that after trying different sets of vibrators with different settings and yet no result made me turn myself off the idea of building such device.
My problem with this things, however, is that I found vibration doesn't take me nowhere near orgasm, rather it makes my cock numb and almost insensitive. Discovering that after trying different sets of vibrators with different settings and yet no result made me turn myself off the idea of building such device.
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