Definition of ruined orgasm challenged

[hoppy74]

Hi all this is my first post. My gf has banned me from cumming or ruined orgasms till I see her in two weeks.
She makes me edge morning and night for what seems like ever. To me the longer stimulation has ceased before the ruined orgasm starts the better it has been performed and less satisfying it is for me. Last night I went over the edge and had my hands off for about 10 seconds before a few drops of cum (not precum) came out. We have a pusishment system in place for failing. Usually a ruined orgasm has quite a bit of cum but this was a few drops. What are your thoughts did I fail her? I cant really find anything on google about this. So my question is do you class it an orgasm if you only have say 1% of your cum release or is it borderline? I would have thought 1/3 or more.

[les]

Was the emission clear or cloudy.
If it was clear I count that as pre-cum and allowable with my serfs.

Even so a ten second delay deserves a small amount of leniency.

[Goddess Josephine]

Try as you may you can't actually stop a full load in transit. You can ruin the full experience and enjoyment of it, but its biology at that point. I am told however that there is a stage of excitement that it peaks and can quickly be stopped by several techniques http://ruinedorgasm.com/


But there are guys who can experience an orgasm without fluid so I don't think the amount means much. What about the guys that pre-cum dribble more then they actually cum?

[dtspam]

An Orgasm is definined by the experience, and usually by the cock contracting, even a ruined orgasm often has at least on contraction. The important point is though, that you go over that point that you call an edge, and feel the orgasm coming. If you do that, its at least an ruined orgasm.
For me after some denial and teasing cum can just drip out without even being on the edge. And if it has been long enough it even is real cum not some kind of precum. Though I dont experience anything like an orgasm.
I think you can only go so long without loosing any cum.
And yes, an orgasm can be dry, especially if you do several of them in a row.

[Stair_Car]

I agree with OP that the longer the time between stimulation and ejaculation, the less pleasure and the less volume of semen. I have no idea where to draw the line between "orgasm" and "not orgasm," but if you think you're not fully drained, you can always ruin it again, can't you?

[SexualChoc]

I would say you Did not hae an orgasm at all
After an edge with no touch you start to shrink some
sometimes it takes longer than others but usually something comes out
if you do no touch and you did a really good edge.
just because the body must do some release.

Or as Les said it could have been pre-cum

very rare to do a ruined after 10 seconds of no touch usually starts Much sooner.

[Endorphin7fbs]

Just last night I had this happen to me. I edged and felt a bit more dribble than expected, even considering precum. I looked down and found that I had dripped some white. The experience is not highly unusual for me when I have built up quite a bit. The experience is quite different from what I would consider a ruined orgasm. The feeling is quite different and it wouldn't be noticed from the feeling alone. Sometimes I have noticed it after an edge that I thought was a pretty safe edge. I even thought it might not be considered an 'edge'. But when I resumed stroking the lubrication felt different than precum and I would look at my hands and see white goo.

With online play I sometimes don't even mention it because the spill doesn't even seem to be a spill and if a Domme were to actually see it, they would have to notice that it is a really small percentage of what is built up. To me it just comes across as uncontrolable, rather than carelessness.

[mbop]

Orgasms and ejaculation are different. You can do either without the other.

[MarqW]

Try as you may you can't actually stop a full load in transit. You can ruin the full experience and enjoyment of it, but its biology at that point. I am told however that there is a stage of excitement that it peaks and can quickly be stopped by several techniques http://ruinedorgasm.com/


But there are guys who can experience an orgasm without fluid so I don't think the amount means much. What about the guys that pre-cum dribble more then they actually cum?

You are quite right Goddess. Once an orgasmic contraction has started, it's impossible to stop it mid contraction, but it is possible to stop having more contractions with good control. I can do either a 'wet' (sperm and seminal fluid mix) or 'dry' (no sperm or seminal fluid) orgasm and I also can stop the orgasmic contractions once i have started either kind. To me stopping an orgasm is the definition of a ruined orgasm. If an orgasm hasn't started then I don't see how one can ruin it.