How did you find out about sex?

[shell]

So, if I understood you correctly, you have not had penetration, but have received and given oral sex?
If that is right, why do you think you still, "haven't had sex"? *gentle smile*

That simply the problem of how you understand sex. For some oral acts are still sex, for others sex is only an act with penetration. Actually I'll agree to the second opinion. Oral is fun, but that's not sex.

That is why I was asking Pure what his thoughts were, to see if he only sees penetration as sex. *smile*

[casualthunder]

Whilst I found out about sex at a relatively early age thanks to a well informed friend and watching 18 rated movies I was fairly naive about masturbation until the age of 14 haha ....I know it was when reading an issue of FHM that came free with a video game magazine once that I felt the urge to jerk off and I still remember to which scantily clad tv star I cum over on the page ....all the best sex education aspects of my life have been self taught/researched/developed lol

[Nezhul]

Actually on a side note.

Do you think porn and erotic should be rated 18+? I mean I know that probably 90% of teenagers have access to it, and I don't see it doing any harm to anyone. It's natural, so why 18+?

[shell]

Actually on a side note.

Do you think porn and erotic should be rated 18+? I mean I know that probably 90% of teenagers have access to it, and I don't see it doing any harm to anyone. It's natural, so why 18+?

Yes, I think it should.
The harm that I see it brings is this. In the "old" days, boys got magazines in one form or another, looking at it alone, or in little groups. They saw these females spread out, in tempting poses. "Sally loves football and cooking wonderful meals," is what the caption said.

Those boys grew up to be men, who thought that their wives out to lay in those poses, stay very thin, and cook them meals that would make their mouths water and watch football for endless hours.
Divorce, obesity in women, and years of therapy, because the women could never live up to what the "boys" expected - a result of those harmless magazines.

Anything can be found online. As a mother of a 15 year old boy, who got mixed up with porn, because the site that hosted our parental controls had a malfunction, I can say I wish he hadn't seen some of the things that he had.

If a boy sees a picture of a threesome at age 15, he will crave it, want it, do just about anything to be in that threesome. He doesn't have the maturity to deal with the emotions of everything that is involved in that type of situation.

And honestly speaking, until a child matures to adulthood, sometimes not at 18, but older, there are many, many situations that they are not prepared to deal with.

I know that might not be anyone's opinion but mine......and that's okay. *Smile*

[les]

I agree with shell
As a single parent I had to bring up 2 girls and a boy through adolescence.
I was lucky that was a few years ago and the internet was not so available, nor was porn, but while I let them do most things, both girls were on the pill the moment I realised they had discovered sex and my boy given a box of condoms for the same reason.

I am pleased they learnt as they went, and able to discuss between themselves and me if more information was required.

They have admitted that today there is too much information with out guidance.
Children need to learn not just know.

I must be wrong because they are all in stable relationships and working or in full time education except one daughter who is on maternity leave.
Exactly the opposite of the preconceived expectation of the family of a single parent.


Myself I read every book I could find and cross checked to ensure I understood, got married at 18 and bought my first house before I was 21.

[Pure&Innocent]

To Shell: Haha well i always assumed that penetration was like the pinnacle of sex. I don't know about other people but for me i consider penetration to be what happens when you have a real connecton with someone, well for the first time anyways. For me its like a first kiss. Something you remember and cherish and that happened because it was you had strong feelings for.
Might sound sorta lame but yah.

Sorry i would quote like you guys but im still new and i suck at this sorta stuff -_-"

[Nezhul]

About age limitation... Should I create another thread? I have things to discuss, but I feel It'll drag the still interesting topic sideways...

[les]

Yes Nezhul with a link in this thread saying so

[janmb]

That simply the problem of how you understand sex. For some oral acts are still sex, for others sex is only an act with penetration. Actually I'll agree to the second opinion. Oral is fun, but that's not sex.

I guess this varies from person to person, and I suspect the language might be lacking a proper, concrete definition or where to draw the actual line, but for me, the definition of sex is very simple: Any activity involving at least one partner where you get sexually stimulated to the point where it could over time lead to orgasm. If that is a hot girl breathing on you, not even touching you at all, if that can stimulate you enough to actually get off, then it is sex.

[janmb]

Actually on a side note.

Do you think porn and erotic should be rated 18+? I mean I know that probably 90% of teenagers have access to it, and I don't see it doing any harm to anyone. It's natural, so why 18+?

1. No, of course it should not. I would not hesitate to allow and encourage my own kids to access porn and have sex far earlier than that. It's far better to focus on what is ok and what is not (communication, respect and all that jazz I'm sure most sensible people agree on), than to alienate it all.

2. Yes, most teenagers access all the porn they like anyway

3. Because most of it comes from the states, which lets face it, is a pretty darn conservative country with a lot of double morale and issues in general with anything even remotely related to sex. Laws are created and maintained by people chosen from and for the general public - which means they are generally vanilla and with a lot to lose. It's not right, not one bit, but as long as religion and conservatism is allowed to so strongly affect the political system of a society, this is one of the many bad consequences.

A slightly different matter is when people should be allowed to work in porn/sex industry. I'm not sure 18 is a sensible limit even for that. Surely, as minors they would require their parents' consent, but beyond that, nothing should stop anyone above sexual lower age from taking part if they like.

[shell]

To Shell: Haha well i always assumed that penetration was like the pinnacle of sex. I don't know about other people but for me i consider penetration to be what happens when you have a real connecton with someone, well for the first time anyways. For me its like a first kiss. Something you remember and cherish and that happened because it was you had strong feelings for.
Might sound sorta lame but yah.

Sorry i would quote like you guys but im still new and i suck at this sorta stuff -_-"

*Smiling* Your feelings are yours, and you shouldn't change them for anyone.
If you see penetration as sex, but nothing else, then you hold true to that, and cherish the first time that your cock enters into that warm safe haven. *bright smile*

As for the quoting thing. You can do so in two different ways.
When you get ready to answer a post, while looking at that specific post, click on the word, "quote" on the right side of the post. It will put in quotes what you want to respond to.

The other way is to copy and paste what you want to quote and paste it in a new "post reply" post. Then highlight those words and click on "quote" below where you type your response. It will put quotes around the words, without saying who said it. Personally, if I do that, I will add who I am quoting, but not everyone does that.

As another little helper....the "spoiler" box, underneath where you type what you want to say, will put anything you highlight in a little box that hides it, unless you or others want to see it. Like this...

Spoiler: show

*smiles at you*

Enjoy learning what different things do.....this site has so many different and enjoyable parts to it. *Smile*

[Buster Channel]

When I was a little kid ... maybe 5 or 6 i learned to masturbate by rubbing my dick on a balled up blanket. I didnt know what I was doing, but I knew I shouldnt be doing it ... so I kept it a secret. At around the age of 9 or 10 I learned what sex is through the dictionary. When I was 12 I learned how to masturbate with my hand and then a little later I had access to porn. Luckily for my parent they never had to have a "talk" with me, but then maybe it was a bad thing.

[waffles54]

we (all the guys) knew how to make out with girls starting in like 6th grade. i had a girlfriend named pam and we made out constantly at her house, with her drunk mom upstairs. man if i knew then what i know now.....i wold leave that house horny and with sticky underwear, but it never advanced past that, darnit. later in junior high, 7th grade, probably 13 years old, someone had driven by our playground after school and tossed a stack of really dirty magazines out of his car, over the fence into our yard. we were playing basketball at the time. game over. it showed EVERYTHING. up close. BJ's and money shots, hand jobs, pussy eating, fucking, orgies....wow. well, we knew all about it after that. our big fat PE coach came running out to see what the commotion was all about and found the magazines and took them away from us. except for the ones we had already hidden! So I knew what to do, but didn't put it into practice until much later in high school. too scared.

[Nezhul]

too scared.

of what?

[Buster Channel]

we (all the guys) knew how to make out with girls starting in like 6th grade. i had a girlfriend named pam and we made out constantly at her house, with her drunk mom upstairs. man if i knew then what i know now.....i wold leave that house horny and with sticky underwear, but it never advanced past that, darnit. later in junior high, 7th grade, probably 13 years old, someone had driven by our playground after school and tossed a stack of really dirty magazines out of his car, over the fence into our yard. we were playing basketball at the time. game over. it showed EVERYTHING. up close. BJ's and money shots, hand jobs, pussy eating, fucking, orgies....wow. well, we knew all about it after that. our big fat PE coach came running out to see what the commotion was all about and found the magazines and took them away from us. except for the ones we had already hidden! So I knew what to do, but didn't put it into practice until much later in high school. too scared.

awsome story, sounds like something you would see in a movie or something