The Logic of Free Speech

[Nezhul]

I promise that I will flood every topic that I find offensive. And I don't want hear drama that I destroy discussion as we have free speech here. Somebody don't care that he can offend others then I don't care about his discussion. Period.

well there's a difference between saying something that others may find offending (It's life for god sake! Learnt hat someone has radically different views from you, and accept it), without any intention to actually offend someone, just saying unpopular things. And in deliberate flooding of a topic just because you don't like some person. That's dumb.

[shell]

I promise that I will flood every topic that I find offensive. And I don't want hear drama that I destroy discussion as we have free speech here. Somebody don't care that he can offend others then I don't care about his discussion. Period.

well there's a difference between saying something that others may find offending (It's life for god sake! Learnt hat someone has radically different views from you, and accept it), without any intention to actually offend someone, just saying unpopular things. And in deliberate flooding of a topic just because you don't like some person. That's dumb.

Psssst....you forgot, "in my opinion". *giggling turns to laughter*

[Qwert]

I will not do it becouse I don't like somebody. I don't know personally anybody from this place and I don't feel some kind of antypathy to anybody here.I can tell more. For me your teases are one of my favouritest,I like your chastity program and I think you often write interesting things in forum.

So I will not flood becouse I don't like someone but becouse he cross the line of good taste.

For you this is dumb for me telling everything no matter what is dumb. I am human and I have some opinions that for most people are controversial too but I don't think I must share them when I know I can offend peoples with whom I share some space.This is not constructive but destructive.

This is my opinion.Learn that this is my view and accept it.

You don't want me to do dumb things so I please you to think twice before you write something.

Second thing is how you write opinion.You can write:

For me black peoples are totally not attractive
or
For me cows are prettier than black peoples

Theoretically you writed same thing but look at both of them and find out which one can provoke some people.

[Nezhul]

That only means more killed topics all for nothing because I would not change my way of expressing my thoughts, nor the way I censor myself just for some silly fella would feel more comfortable.

Only know that only a lowest piece of scum would do what you suggest, i.e. flooding a thread that a lot of people are interested in just to show protest to some person you don't like the posts of. Also that's a weak and silly way of doing things as you obviously don't want to confront me in a debate to proove I'm wrong, rather you'll try to censor me with "white noise". Good luck in trying, You'll just piss off a lot of good people, and won't proove anything that yourself being a hypocrite.

What I'm doing is simply being a person who's words a lot of people hate. What you are suggesting to do is simply forum terrorism or something. You are actually OK in hurting other people just to try to reach a goal of hurting/annoying ME personally. The nature of your suggestion is pure anger, that's what differs us.

And with new suggested by seraphox rules I won't even be attacking you. That's why I told that if you make one rule - you'll have to make a bunch of others. When you have completely open enviroment, it defends itself. But if you block it only on one side the others are getting very vulnerable.

[Evals]

I will not do it becouse I don't like somebody. I don't know personally anybody from this place and I don't feel some kind of antypathy to anybody here.I can tell more. For me your teases are one of my favouritest,I like your chastity program and I think you often write interesting things in forum.

So I will not flood becouse I don't like someone but becouse he cross the line of good taste.

You, good sir, will promptly earn yourself a spot on my "Enemies" list so I won't have to see your useless crap posts you plan to create, provided you carry through with this stupid logic. Feel free to carry out what you intend to do. I, and presumably several others, will no longer listen to your word no matter if it is relevant or not.

[Qwert]

You, good sir, will promptly earn yourself a spot on my "Enemies" list so I won't have to see your useless crap posts you plan to create, provided you carry through with this stupid logic. Feel free to carry out what you intend to do. I, and presumably several others, will no longer listen to your word no matter if it is relevant or not.

I don't care mister ;)

Only know that only a lowest piece of scum would do what you suggest, i.e. flooding a thread that a lot of people are interested in just to show protest to some person you don't like the posts of.

Only lowest piece of scum don't care about others.And if you look at it you don't care about others as much as I will not care about topics that I find offensive.

Also that's a weak and silly way of doing things as you obviously don't want to confront me in a debate to proove I'm wrong, rather you'll try to censor me with "white noise". Good luck in trying, You'll just piss off a lot of good people, and won't proove anything that yourself being a hypocrite.

You don't want be pissed but you don't care that you piss others that is hypocrite.I try to tell as much as other people that you are wrong but you closed your ears and don't want hear anything about it. I writed:

Second thing is how you write opinion.You can write:

For me black peoples are totally not attractive
or
For me cows are prettier than black peoples

Theoretically you writed same thing but look at both of them and find out which one can provoke some people.

I can't agree with Nezhul's point of view that he don't care if his opinion offend anybody. If I don't care about feelings of rest of the community i don't pretend to be part of it.

I don't go to group of people and tell them that for me cows are prettier then their wifes.This isn't right.

But you talk only aboutt flooding and don't counter any of arguments.You avoid discussion, and attack me that I don't want it. You tell me that I will ruin fun for some people but you don't care that you make it too.

Edited:You know what.I thinked about it and I must admit that you was right. I will not flood anything. I just don't be as selfish as you are.

[Nezhul]

there was a debate not about black people but about cows. Talking about how unattractive black people are to me was out of the topic, yet comparing cows to something known to everyone was on topic. That's the first thing.

Second - I'm not a hypocrite. I don't try to make other people censor themselves so that I would feel better. I don't say I'm better than someone. How am I a hypocrite? Call me heartless cynic or something then.

Edited:You know what.I thinked about it and I must admit that you was right. I will not flood anything. I just don't be as selfish as you are.

good.

[Alliteration]

Let's do a test run. For the next couple of months I'll put out a rule that personal attacks should be deleted.

Any word on this? Has it gone live, or are you still considering the specifics?

[seraph0x]

You guys have made a lot of good points and I've got some ideas and responses I want to put in writing. We're currently trying to close a deal with our biggest customer yet at my day job and at my studies I've got final exams on the 13th, so those two things together means that I'm going to be pretty busy for the next couple of days. Once that's dealt with I want to write a full post in this thread and give you guys a chance to respond before I decide anything.

In the meantime, please don't hesitate to continue the discussion, if you have anything more to add.

[Human]

You guys have made a lot of good points and I've got some ideas and responses I want to put in writing. We're currently trying to close a deal with our biggest customer yet at my day job and at my studies I've got final exams on the 13th, so those two things together means that I'm going to be pretty busy for the next couple of days. Once that's dealt with I want to write a full post in this thread and give you guys a chance to respond before I decide anything.

In the meantime, please don't hesitate to continue the discussion, if you have anything more to add.

Good luck seraph.
Watchu studying?

[seraph0x]

Good luck seraph.
Watchu studying?

Nothing fancy, just Business Studies.

[shell]

You guys have made a lot of good points and I've got some ideas and responses I want to put in writing. We're currently trying to close a deal with our biggest customer yet at my day job and at my studies I've got final exams on the 13th, so those two things together means that I'm going to be pretty busy for the next couple of days. Once that's dealt with I want to write a full post in this thread and give you guys a chance to respond before I decide anything.

In the meantime, please don't hesitate to continue the discussion, if you have anything more to add.

Good luck on your exams, and the deal too. *smile*

[daquiri]

perhaps an ignore user option is possible with this style of forum?

[Evals]

perhaps an ignore user option is possible with this style of forum?

In order to "ignore" a user, click their username, and then click "Add Foe" underneath their profile. To see who you have as "Foes" already, go to your control panel and look at the list in the bottom left side.

[daquiri]

ah, wasnt sure if that ignored or not.

well there's one solution right there then...

as they say, you have the right to speak all you want, but everyone else has the right to not listen.