Nezhul wrote:There are quite a few things that would make lots of people happy, yet we don't do them.
Yes, that's true. You've fallen into my trap. The fact that an action or behavior makes someone happy is not good grounds to accept it as a society, at least not by itself. There are other factors - such as whether someone is being hurt. Murder makes a serial killer unhappy, but we don't accept it because it also hurts others. Utilitarian criteria are pretty popular, so let's go with them - who is hurt by D/s relationships? When you answer this, keep in mind that offensiveness doesn't count as harm. If it did, we would not be accepting of ANY behavior. So, show me some emotional or physical harm factors in society, and explain the causal link between them and D/s.
Why gays should be considered a norma?
I've already explained what "normal" means. At about 10% of the population, they should not be considered "normal", but they should be considered healthy, and we should be accepting of them.
I simply don't care,
Then why the posts?
Yes, you may enjoy it, yes, I daresay you have a right to do it and noone can criticize you BUT you can't ask everyone to acknowledge this as an entirely normal way of doing things. It's the part of freedom you know. You may do whatever you want, but you shouldn't expect, let alone INSIST that everyone likes it.
I'm not even sure what you're saying here...I've never heard anyone say that everyone should partake in homosexuality. If you're saying that not everyone enjoys homosexuality, but those that do should be allowed to practice it without being spit on, shunned, etc...what exactly is your quarrel?
Dont be silly. That's weird logics and comparison you have there, it can be an argument only to some dumb half-brained idiots.
It's not an argument, it's an analogy. Nice insult, though.
Thousends of years we build our society as a species the way, that men are dominant. Hundreds of cultures developed separatly that way, because it's our natural roles.
Who, day and night, must scramble for a living,
Feed a wife and children, say his daily prayers?
And who has the right, as master of the house,
To have the final word at home?
The Papa, the Papa! Tradition.
The Papa, the Papa! Tradition.
-Fiddler on the Roof
Do you actually think "we've always done it this way" is a good reason to continue doing something? If so, you're in a bit of trouble. See, there's LOTS of old ways of doing all kinds of things, and some of them are mutually exclusive. How can you possibly do everything the way we've always done it? Society would never advance.
It can be seen even in how our bodies grow. Men get more muscle, women don't. Men get more rational minds.
No, *some* men get more muscle, and *some* men get more rational minds. Have you ever heard of Grace Hopper? She (yes, SHE) was the inventor of the COBOL programming language, and was on the team that built UNIVAC. If it weren't for this
rational woman, you probably wouldn't have that computer you're using to type up all this nonsense.
Then there's Alan Turing, an effeminate homosexual man. If it weren't for him, we would have lost World War II.
To start debating on this you'll need a definition of mental health, which no doctors of psychology managed to figure out just yet.
To be mentally healthy means that you have no conditions which are described in a psychology diagnostics manual, such as the DSM-5. Wow, that was easy.
Submissive men are just one of the branches of the tree where emo-boys, bitchy girls and emotionally unstable people are.
See what I said above about the DSM-5? Let's do this - go grab a copy, and start flipping through the mental disorders. Ask me some questions to determine whether I meet the criteria for ANYTHING.
Never told I was against them. I just pointed that it's wrong from a basic natural gender roles. A lot of kinks are wrong, if not all.
BUT, in case someone misunderstood me, that doesn't make submissive men - bad people. Kinky society are not normal people, including me, we are actually a bunch of weirdoes. BUT it doesn't make anyone bad.
Wrong? Are you making a moral judgment here? If it's wrong, I should stop - but you've also said here that you're ok with it. I think you're a bit confused.
calling black black should be OK in any situation, although it's considered offensive if you are not friends. "Black" is not a bad word, yet it actually became one in the US. That's just stupidity on the large.
Did you even read what I said before about social circles and unwarranted intimacy. You can't just restate your points ad nauseum, you have to address my counterpoints.
It's just that if they want to be treated equally, why do they need to DEMONSTRATE their difference?
For the same reason that Rosa Parks didn't move to the back of the bus. Sometimes you have to make a scene to get fair treatment.
I'd say someone out to shoot them right on the street, so as anti-gay demonstrations should be shot as well.
Good idea - let's shoot EVERYONE! No humans = no problems. Violence is surely the answer!
