gay tease

[whacker44]

As i am wandering around doing my guy's housework, wearing my jock..i got to wondering if people here would get very upset if i were to post a gay tease. not one with one of those really hot tgirls, but one where a real man gives the instructions..just curious for now.i would not want to offend people and this seems to be a very straight site i have had my best RT teasing experiences with a man

[JelloBoy]

I would think that as long as you cleary marked the tease as such, noone would have any problems with it.

Just my $0.02.

~Jello

[dark]

Dude go on I don't think we should exclude any sexual interests on this site if they are legal. Just mark the tease, I mean we already have a couple of shemale teases. If anybody has a problem with that it's his/her problem.

That is my personal opinion I didn't discuss that with the team, but why we shouldn't discuss this in public? All opinions about are welcome except of insulting opinions of course So please go on guys and post what you think about.

Whacker are you gay? If yes that's cool I never thaught we have any gay people here.

edit\ and moved to the webtease forum

[seraph0x]

Sure, go ahead!

[whacker44]

dear Dark,
I seem to be getting gayer as i get older..

[drippydick]

Like someone said before what difference does it make as long as its good sex, it dont mater what kind.

[whacker44]

ahhh drippy..a man after my own heart i see..

[addictlion]

I would say go ahead. Everyone loves a good tease. I agree with the earlier comment though about clearly marking it. It was kind of frustrating in a negative way (if that makes sense on a t&d sight) to be surprised by a shemale in the middle of a tease.

[ninety]

Whilst it wouldn't be a tease I'd do personally, I wholeheartedly support the idea. I like that Milovana is open to all, be it sexuality or fetish. I'm sure several of the 'straight' teases aren't to everyone's preference. I suspect/hope the rest of the site's community will feel the same.

[newbs]

As this is a sensitive subject and I don’t want to be politically incorrect, I will speak for myself. I like this site and its predecessor orgasm denial, its content has always been border line straight and has never had homosexuality attached to tease and denial. That is how it should stay. There are a lot of young and innocent people who visit this site. Play with sexual roles is in my opinion is fine but the line is not crossed. Young people must be spoken for and I believe that until age verification is possible lets let the youth that come here make up there own minds and not get confused along there way. Homosexuality, Tease and Denial and Domination are all wonderful things but confusing this during a young person’s development and growth is not.

This is an adult site but I hope we can still be responsible.

[ninety]

Off topic I know, but newbs brings up an interesting point, namely age verification. A lot of sites require you to click a button agreeing/stating you are of the required age for your homeland; be it 18/21, before entering the respective site. I'm just curious as to why Milovana doesn't have a similar page. Is it to do with the Server's location? I presume the lack of such a page/option doesn't put Milovana at any risk of getting taken down, I most certainly hope not, but suspect that Seraphox has thought this through and it's not a neccessity. None of this has any bearing on my opinion on whacker's tease idea though, you still have my support.

[mike_from_canada_18]

I would just like to say... in regards to the age verification and that being the problem of why there should not be a gay tease... that I think we are missing a big point. In my personal opinion, this is a site with obviously sexual basings... and that is the reason there should be an age verification in place. The way i have interpreted previous messages is that the sexual content is acceptable...that's not crossing the line...but to add gay teases would be where it becomes absolutely unacceptable for youth to see it. In my experience, it is the new generation of young people that are working the hardest towards getting rid of the stigma attached to homosexuality. Long story short, i full-heartedly agree with the age verification page that should be a necessity, but for the reason of sexual content and not homosexual. Does this make sense to anyone else or am i just talking out of my ass? I would love if someone could reply to this because I do feel pretty strongly about what I'm saying.

[Jenna]

I agree with Mike. Aside from thinking those age verification things are kind of a joke, if one isn’t needed legally I wouldn’t have it. I have a really hard time believing someone is going to find this site accidentally.

Young people shouldn’t be looking at this site. If that’s an issue I think it should be discussed separate from whether or not homosexuality is crossing some line.

With all the taboo sexual things that are explored here I think homosexuality is an odd subject to say we are going to far. Although what a person finds sexually appealing can change over time, by the time someone gets to 18 years old they have a pretty good idea of what they like and don't like. I really don’t think a few gay teases are going to somehow confuse people and turn them gay as I think Newbs was eluding to.

As far as atmosphere I could understand seraph0x making rules. If he wants to keep this a certain kind of site I completely understand that. But making a moral stand against homosexuality is absolutely ridiculous given the subject matter explored here.

[free]

As this is a sensitive subject and I don’t want to be politically incorrect, I will speak for myself. I like this site and its predecessor orgasm denial, its content has always been border line straight and has never had homosexuality attached to tease and denial. That is how it should stay. There are a lot of young and innocent people who visit this site. Play with sexual roles is in my opinion is fine but the line is not crossed. Young people must be spoken for and I believe that until age verification is possible lets let the youth that come here make up there own minds and not get confused along there way. Homosexuality, Tease and Denial and Domination are all wonderful things but confusing this during a young person’s development and growth is not.

This is an adult site but I hope we can still be responsible.

Felt it necessary to respond to your post, ninety. I'll just tackle things as they are mentioned:

"There are a lot of young and innocent people who visit this site. Play with sexual roles is in my opinion is fine but the line is not crossed"

The natural conclusion from this is that it is wrong to encroach on a young person's "innocence" (whatever people mean by that). This is a point up for debate but I don't mean to go there (in this thread at any rate).

I quote this passage because you appear to think this site is okay for young people as long as it remains straight. The natural inference is that heterosexual, sexual/pornographic media is okay and does not endanger a young person's innocence but that homosexual material would do. The implicit message in this is that homosexuality is capable of breaking innocence or purity, and therefore that it is impure: somehow "bad" compared to heterosexual activity, and our young ones need to be protected from this wrong, subversive idea until their mental faculties have developed. To draw a distinction between heterosexuality and homosexuality is implicitly to say that one is more valid than the other: this differentiation of the two sexualities makes a profound statement about their differing moral value.

"Young people must be spoken for"

Must they? I think they should be listened to. But I don't quite think you mean this. I think your words are meant more in the spirit of:

"the interests of young people need to be considered and given a voice"

in which case I whole-heartedly agree. Just exercise caution: what message does it send insecure, angst-ridden young people who are afraid of people accepting their homosexuality, if a sexual website considers it ok for young people to view heterosexual material but bans these young people viewing homosexual material? It tells them the way they are feeling is "wrong". In my view, you either have to call for age verification so both hetero- and homo-sexual material is age-limited, or you have to give equal voice to both sides of the sexuality-coin.


"lets let the youth that come here make up there own minds and not get confused along there way."

On a website that refuses to show both sides of sexuality, the potential for confusion is magnified. How can a young person "make up their own mind" if they are subjected to a one-sided view of sexuality? - there is no choice to make in this scenario. If a young, gay person visits the site and realises there is a rule that homosexual material is not shown here, and so therefore (no doubt as one part of other social pressures) starts to truly believe being gay is "wrong" and unnatural and so decides to try to lead a "straight life" which will almost certainly lead to inner turmoil, conflict and repression: that, in my opinion, is truly "getting confused along the way".

I'm almost sure this site will have already helped some young people realise that their submission/OD/chastity/whatever fetish is OK, and therefore that THEY are OK. That's the beauty (and possibly the danger...) of the internet: no matter what you're into - you're not alone.

People are often unsure of their sexuality at a young age. They need to be able to explore ALL facets of sexuality: precisely TO AVOID CONFUSION.

I think it's ok, by the way, if people want this to be a "straight" site: just as it's ok that some sites are only about gerbils and other sites are only about hamsters! I just disagree with the reasons you put forward, ninety. My own preference would be to allow gay teases though, because, while it's not my thing, the spirit of freedom of expression at Milovana is totally my thing.

"This is an adult site but I hope we can still be responsible"

Naaaaaaah!

[free]

Oh shit sorry! Misquote! Replace "ninety" with "newbs" in my previous post in this thread. Apologies to both ninety and newbs. I'm clearly STILL not with it...