How do you reliably get an ruined orgasm?

[box_of_cards]

Hi everyone, many of the teases ask you to have ruined orgasm and then continue. With me that hardly ever works. I sometimes have a ruined orgasm (sperm just flowing out, no refraction period) but most often, even after stoping all stimulation, I just get a normal orgasm and I am done.... How do you reliably ruin your orgasm in a way that you can continue?

[Shattered]

Personally, I can't ruin an orgasm and continue right after like some teases etc suggest. Ruin makes it feel bad, but its still the end. You might be the same!

[kerkersklave]

I never really got ruined orgasms.
What sometimes happens, is, that sperm just flows out. But to get there, I have to not have an orgasm for a few days, edge a lot and then it starts to flow when I get close to the edge. But this is not a ruined orgasm as it is described in most teases. That is just orgasm-free ejaculation.
If I go over the point of no return and just stop I get an orgasm, maybe not the greatest orgasm but still horniness will be gone for 10-20 minutes. With a lot of willpower I can fight it down and avoid contractions, the it is really frustrating, but will still take time to get hard and horny again.
I'm not sure whether this idea of ruined orgasm is really more a fantasy. The ejaculation without orgasm thing works for me, but I cannot do it on command.

[Lestat]

I on the other hand have quite the opposite : when I ruin an orgasm it spurts like a normal one and still feel ruined but I can't continue right away without cumming again. And even if I wait a few moments, it don't take much stimulation I really need a break of several minutes.

[forbiddendesire]

I on the other hand have quite the opposite : when I ruin an orgasm it spurts like a normal one and still feel ruined but I can't continue right away without cumming again. And even if I wait a few moments, it don't take much stimulation I really need a break of several minutes.

This is the same for me, it spurts like normal and feels ruined, and if I try to continue right away then I cum again. But I have the same refractory period after ruining as I do after normal orgasm, so sadly the after effects are the same as a normal orgasm. And it takes me 1-2 days to get horny again.

[edger477]

But I have the same refractory period after ruining as I do after normal orgasm

Maybe a bit offtopic but I have researched a lot about this and it is biology, you can't prevent it after ejaculating. Average ejaculation contains 300-500 million spermatozoids, and those are not free, it takes your body some time to make them. When I was teenager I remember my refractory period was 3 minutes, but more you ejaculate more you strain your body (they require zinc and proteins, and reproduction being one of most important functions producing them takes precedence over repairing your body and producing other cells).

After reading about taoism (search for book by Mantak Chia) I started to save/avoid ejaculations and that resulted me to be more masculine, have more willpower, more energy, more determination. And not chasing orgasm resulted in enjoyment of whole act of sex, itself being much more blissful experience. I also chase that full-body orgasm (orgasm without ejaculation) and I had some but they are not reproducible every time. And even they are, my wife doesn't want to stop until she sees the proof

Bottom line, I don't even try do ruined orgasms anymore as energy/refraction cost of one is same as of normal orgasm, instead rather try to get to the edge and stop when you are leaking precum, if you want to continue, then wait until erection starts to subsidize before resuming.

[rakeshhame]

I am able to do it if after I have been edging for 2-3 hours. I cannot do it whenever I'm told to do it like immediately but I can end my session with a ruined orgasm and can continue after. After a few hours I edge then stop for 5 sec then immediately edge again and stop for 5 sec and continue to do so till I can barely touch my dick without exploding like a single fingers touch would make me cum and at this time I try to think of all things that turn me on the most and try to cum and then cum just leaks out. Then I wait for 10 sec and then continue to stroke. If i feel like my dick is getting soft I apply a little pressure on upper side of dicks base.

[CremeFromwood]

I would say get familiar with the sensations at the edge
for me there is a range between cumming and not and if i stop in that range and relax my groin
then the muscles might start trying to contract but i relax and it subsides and feel the cum flow.

[Revuin]

I can pretty consistently ruin an orgasm at least 1 day after the last time orgasm. It's easier the more time has passed since the last orgasm.

Here's the method:

Get as horny as possible by masturbating a long time and edging.
Wait until you're completely soft
Stroke quickly and try to cum as soon as possible BUT let go right before you cum.
Start over if you get hard before cumming

The result should be that cum oozes out slowly but none of the pleasurable contractions happen.

This takes practice to find out when is the right time to let go. Took like 15 failed attempts to finally get it but I can nail it pretty much 95% of the time now.

[box_of_cards]

I can pretty consistently ruin an orgasm at least 1 day after the last time orgasm. It's easier the more time has passed since the last orgasm.

Here's the method:

Get as horny as possible by masturbating a long time and edging.
Wait until you're completely soft
Stroke quickly and try to cum as soon as possible BUT let go right before you cum.
Start over if you get hard before cumming

The result should be that cum oozes out slowly but none of the pleasurable contractions happen.

This takes practice to find out when is the right time to let go. Took like 15 failed attempts to finally get it but I can nail it pretty much 95% of the time now.

Yes, that sound about right! Somehow I sometimes get this ruined orgasm where cum is just leaking out. After that I feel less hory, but still ready to go. But that is sadly rare. I will try your methode!

[forbiddendesire]

Maybe a bit offtopic but I have researched a lot about this and it is biology, you can't prevent it after ejaculating. Average ejaculation contains 300-500 million spermatozoids, and those are not free, it takes your body some time to make them. When I was teenager I remember my refractory period was 3 minutes, but more you ejaculate more you strain your body (they require zinc and proteins, and reproduction being one of most important functions producing them takes precedence over repairing your body and producing other cells).

After reading about taoism (search for book by Mantak Chia) I started to save/avoid ejaculations and that resulted me to be more masculine, have more willpower, more energy, more determination. And not chasing orgasm resulted in enjoyment of whole act of sex, itself being much more blissful experience. I also chase that full-body orgasm (orgasm without ejaculation) and I had some but they are not reproducible every time. And even they are, my wife doesn't want to stop until she sees the proof

Bottom line, I don't even try do ruined orgasms anymore as energy/refraction cost of one is same as of normal orgasm, instead rather try to get to the edge and stop when you are leaking precum, if you want to continue, then wait until erection starts to subsidize before resuming.

This is my ultimate dream, I don't like the "down" period after cumming and would prefer to not ejaculate so I can maintain that feeling as long as possible. But often I get carried away and tease myself just a bit too long and end up ruining it. I never actively go into a teasing/masturbation session with the goal of orgasm, ruined or full.

If I let myself get soft too often and starting up again, I find myself very close to orgasm and it's very easy to have an accident, so gotta be careful there

[Mr-Elusive]

Someone here posted this link previously and it made a lot of sense to me: https://www.keephimcaged.com/ruined-org ... ed-orgasm/ and it's what I use for determining if an orgasm is ruined or not.

For me, I manage to ruin when I can stop just before I go over the edge. I find if I stop just after I go over the edge, while I don't really enjoy the orgasm, I expel a full load. I'm still horny after this, but that refractory period kicks in.

It generally takes me a good 30 minutes of edging before I get to the stage where I can ruin and even then it sometimes doesn't work.

[edger477]

This is my ultimate dream, I don't like the "down" period after cumming and would prefer to not ejaculate so I can maintain that feeling as long as possible.

I can say I share this goal, but I never managed to feel fulfilled/satisfied from masturbation if I haven't had ejaculation. However, with my wife, since I started to enjoy the act of sex (making love and exchanging energy with partner as opposed to have orgasm be only goal of having sex), I have been able to feel satisfied and not having feeling of missing out if I have sex for like 30 minutes and then stop after my wife reaches orgasm, I don't even have raging hard-on and can fall asleep without problem. And best thing is no refractory period and down time, also normally after ejaculation I require 2 more hours of sleep to feel rested but without one I am able to get up earlier and feel energized.
I am in 30-ies now but I can see this allowing me to have better quality of life in future, and I would lie if I said ability to have erections and sex as much as my wife would wish is not affecting my ego, but whole focus of my experience of sex has been shifted on spending quality time with wife, not necessarily having a penetration, just be intimate emotionally. More better sex was result of it. I still lurk here as we have homes in multiple countries and one of us is often away in other home for like 2 weeks so I try to do this "self cultivation" trying to experience that feeling of satisfaction without ejaculating. I am normally doing estim teases when alone and I think the secret is to focus on the enjoying the moment, not trying to build an orgasm. Being relaxed and fully enjoying the sensations after certain time produces enough dopamine to feel satisfied and I don't need the ejaculation but I guess due to all conditioning whole life (porn and expectations everyone has from sex) I find it hard to stop. I think it might be necessary to masturbate without any porn to be able to concentrate on the sensations and stop it without getting carried away and crossing the edge.

[GunrunnerNC]

My wife has ruined me up to 10 times in a row and I can keep going after each one. The key is to not think of it as an "orgasm minus" but as an "edge plus." IMO if you are spurting like normal and have a refractory period, you have had an abandoned orgasm rather than a ruined orgasm and you stopped the stimulation much too late. It is common for us to stop stimulation a full 5-7 seconds before any semen comes out. It basically feels like a dangerously close edge for that entire 5 seconds. Try adding just 1-2 strokes when you feel like you are at the edge and then remove all stimulation. If that doesn't work, add 3 strokes, etc.

[box_of_cards]

My wife has ruined me up to 10 times in a row and I can keep going after each one. The key is to not think of it as an "orgasm minus" but as an "edge plus." IMO if you are spurting like normal and have a refractory period, you have had an abandoned orgasm rather than a ruined orgasm and you stopped the stimulation much too late. It is common for us to stop stimulation a full 5-7 seconds before any semen comes out. It basically feels like a dangerously close edge for that entire 5 seconds. Try adding just 1-2 strokes when you feel like you are at the edge and then remove all stimulation. If that doesn't work, add 3 strokes, etc.

That sounds amazing! I wish I could ge my SO to do that with me.... Your technique advise is really helpful. I will give that a try.